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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most of the people hanging their vote on what's happening in Gaza have NO clue about the politics, the history, nothing. It's purely political talking points

Fine.

But if you're going to rely on that to hand Trump the office of POTUS again, when he was an unmitigated disaster. And embarrassment. Unhinged. And has been a traitorous turd since 2020, undermining elections, trying to steal GA, inciting the 1/6 riot . . . well, there is no hope for you. Or for this country. We had a good run, I suppose, but it will be all over as we have known it. And for what? Because people are using a situation they know very little about, if nothing, and where there is no easy solution to the situation which has existed for generations. That's not very smart. But apparently, Americans are once again proving they are not. [/quote]

1st paragraph is dead wrong. People hate *because* they see the evil. If it were still 1982 (or whatever year Genocide Joe thinks it is!) he could get away with this chicken hawk routine. He can’t do it now![/quote]

But they excuse what Hamas did on Oct 7 and are still holding hostages. So where do you want to draw the line?

Also, what do you expect Joe to do? He isn't the Israeli PM.

Do you think ANYONE in the GOP would be better for the Palestinians? Really?[/quote]

I find it really astounding that there is still this game going on here about bashing Biden over the Palestine situation and making Trump out to be the winning alternative.  The ties between pro-Palestine activists and other groups are far more likely to be BLM and Antifa.  Does anyone really think trying to conjure an alliance or for that matter any kind of relationship between MAGA, BLM and Antifa would ever hold water?  Never in a million miles.

It's a wild-desperate reach by pro-Palestinians.  The reality is that while you might not like Biden, the MAGA faction is even more hostile to your cause than the left is.   All the pro-Palestinians are doing with their strategy is to turn a fail into an even bigger fail.[/quote]

Here’s a better question: why has Biden worked so hard to offend his base AND promote a Trump-style (and Trump-supporting) regime in Israel?

If you’re not taking that up with Biden aka discussing it publicly, you deserve to lose. The Democratic Party clearly has very serious problems of its own and has for decades. This big a f-up by the putative response to Trump AND the browbeating of offended voters shows your true stripes. Having it out in public about Biden (and the party) is almost certainly worth it, except if you’re are very old.[/quote]

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