Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting
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Anonymous
Yes, there are a number of people who are killed by police, some of them during a pursuit. Do you know how many people there are in the US? |
Anonymous
^^^ The vast majority of police interactions and arrests occur without incident. We don't hear about them because they don't make the news. So our perception is skewed. |
Anonymous
Bingo. |
Anonymous
So you’re saying we shouldn’t pursue criminals for non life threatening crimes? We just let them go? How do we decide on punishment if we can’t detain them? |
Anonymous
There should be a policy in place on foot (and car pursuits) with clear guidelines that takes into account the safety of the LEOs, the general public, and that of the perps. Foot pursuits can turn deadly for cops too, not just perps. What if the sunglass thief had had a gun and shot one of the LEOs in the woods? I see no reason for anyone to get hurt in these situations. The Law Enforcement Policy Center (which is associated with an association of LEOs) position paper on this topic offers guidelines to help jurisdictions craft their own foot pursuit policy. "Foot pursuits are inherently dangerous. Agencies must establish a balance between protecting the safety of the public and officers during pursuits on foot and law enforcement’s duty to enforce the law and apprehend suspects.This document is intended to provide agencies with items for consideration when developing their policies regarding foot pursuits, including when they should be initiated, how they should be coordinated, and applicable guidelines and restrictions." A Stanford Law program discusses the dangers of foot pursuits and offers a Model Policy. "The Dangers of Police Foot Pursuits" "A foot pursuit is not a use of force but is often associated with encounters resulting in force. Consequently, in our Model Policy, we include guidelines for preventing, initiating, conducting, terminating, and reporting on a foot pursuit. Guidelines on foot pursuits are important because the guidelines can affect the frequency with which officers use deadly and other escalating uses of force. For instance, over an eight-year period in Chicago, half of all police shootings occurred immediately after or in conjunction with foot pursuits. In Los Angeles, around a quarter of officer-involved shootings involved foot pursuits. And in Philadelphia, that number was 48 percent. These studies highlight the dangers involving police foot pursuits—dangers that often may put officers at a tactical disadvantage. To further reduce the dangers to the officer’s and public’s safety, an officer may decide to apprehend an individual at a later point. Policies that discourage officers from initiating or continuing foot pursuits may also reduce the number of situations where force becomes necessary." https://law.stanford.edu/2022/10/04/the-dangers-of-police-foot-pursuits/ |
Anonymous
So you want “running from the cops” to be an automatic death sentence without a trial. America is not the country for you. |
Anonymous
Body cam footage will vindicate the officers. Guy was a dangerous scum and made some type of threatening movement when he realized he hit a dead end (that woods backs up right to a brick wall lol) |
Anonymous
You play too many video games. |
Anonymous
DP. They've reported that he was shot in the chest. Either he turned around to surrender and was shot or he turned around to attack. |
Anonymous
Yea everyone called me crazy for it |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
You’re deliberately twisting the facts. Obviously, to any intelligent person, the police did not decide to provide a death sentence while on a foot chase. They had concerns for their safety, so they shot the suspect. They had, likely, a split second to make a decision. If a policy is made not to pursue these criminals…theft will spike at Tyson’s Mall to incredible levels since criminals from DC are coming in and trying to take advantage. I fully support the police. Who knows what other kinds of crimes this sleaze bag could have committed at the mall. |
Anonymous
| May you never need the protections guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution. |
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Below is the latest on this case. I've summarized a few key points for those who don't want to read the whole article. Bottom line, various authorities are looking into the circumstances of the shooting. As a Fairfax Co. resident, I expect an unbiased review whenever lethal force is used by representatives of my local government. Let's all wait and see what the outcome is.
*The Fairfax Co. NAACP is calling for an independent investigation because "the information shared so far about the incident suggests the shooting was unwarranted based on the FCPD’s own use-of-force policy." *The FCPD major crimes bureau is conducting a criminal investigation into the incident, while the internal affairs bureau is tasked with leading an administrative investigation, which will be reviewed by the county’s independent police auditor." NEW: Fairfax County NAACP calls for ‘independent’ investigation into fatal police shooting in Tysons Angela WoolseyToday at 1:20pm Fairfax County Police Chief Kevin Davis addresses police shooting at Tysons Corner Center (via FCPD/Facebook) The fatal police shooting of a man accused of shoplifting sunglasses at Tysons Corner Center last week has local civil rights groups questioning the Fairfax County Police Department’s commitment to enforcing its own policies. The Fairfax County NAACP wants “an independent, transparent and comprehensive investigation” into the death of D.C. resident Timothy McCree Johnson, who was shot by officers on Wednesday (Feb. 22) during a foot chase that extended a quarter-mile from the Nordstrom where he allegedly stole a pair of designer sunglasses. In a statement released this morning, the organization says the information shared so far about the incident suggests the shooting was unwarranted based on the FCPD’s own use-of-force policy. “The tragic killing of Mr. Johnson reminds us once again how unjust America’s policing truly is,” Fairfax County NAACP President Michelle Leete said. “The facts as we know them signal that the officers’ actions were entirely out of step with FCPD’s Use of Force policy.” The FCPD major crimes bureau is conducting a criminal investigation into incident, while the internal affairs bureau is tasked with leading an administrative investigation, which will be reviewed by the county’s independent police auditor. The NAACP has set up a Gofundme to help Johnson’s family with funeral expenses. Effective as of March 1, 2021, FCPD’s policy says deadly force “shall not be used to apprehend a fleeing misdemeanant.” It allows deadly force to be used to apprehend a fleeing person if certain conditions are met: 1. The officer has probable cause to believe that the individual committed a felony involving violence, 2. All other means to effect an arrest have been exhausted, and 3. The felon’s escape poses a significant threat of serious injury or death to the officer or to others. “Suspicion of stealing a few pairs of sunglasses without the use or possession of a weapon do not satisfy any — much less all — of [the policy’s] requirements,” the NAACP said. “Whether or not Mr. Johnson was guilty of a crime, he had the right to due process, and for the sanctity of his life to be respected by police officers to the maximum extent possible.” The NAACP says the police department should release “unedited camera footage” of the Tysons incident, a medical examiner’s report, and the officers’ identities and complaint histories. FCPD policies dictate that the names of officers involved in a shooting be made public within 10 days and that body-worn camera footage be released within 30 days. Known as General Order 540, the use-of-force policy document indicates that it will be reviewed starting this March. “Our policies set the standards and expectations for all our officers’ actions and help guide the department’s training curriculum,” FCPD Public Affairs Bureau Director Katherine Hayek said. “A key part of our department’s proactive strategy is our continual review and update of all our policies. We do this to ensure we are incorporating national best-practices and feedback.” Police shootings increased in 2022 At a press briefing after the shooting, Police Chief Kevin Davis said Johnson had a “violent criminal history” and was “well known” to law enforcement in the D.C. area. He also said police were looking for evidence, including a possible weapon that Johnson may have discarded, though none was found. Johnson’s mother has disputed that characterization of her son, telling the Washington Post that she believes he was unarmed. Even if Johnson had been armed at some point, the weapon being discarded would mean the officers weren’t in “immediate” danger when they fired their guns, notes ACLU People Power Fairfax, another local civil rights advocacy organization. The NAACP criticized Davis for highlighting Johnson’s allegedly violent history in his briefing as “ironic” after he faced two lawsuits for use of force and false imprisonment during his time as an officer in Prince George’s County. The victims won both lawsuits. That history led the NAACP and other groups to oppose Davis’s appointment as Fairfax County’s police chief in 2021. Since Davis took office, county police officers have been involved in eight shootings, including six in 2022 and three fatalities, according to the department’s website. That equals the number seen from 2014 to 2020 — nearly the entirety of the tenure of Davis’s predecessor. Fairfax County police officer-involved shootings from 2013 to 2022 (via FCPD) Policy on foot pursuits needed, groups say The civil rights groups are also urging the FCPD to adopt a policy dictating when officers can pursue a suspect on foot — something recommended by a 2021 University of Texas study of the department’s use of force. The department currently doesn’t have any policy related to foot pursuits beyond the criteria for using deadly force against a fleeing felon, says ACLU People Power Fairfax Lead Advocate Diane Burkley Alejandro, who’s on a Use of Force Citizen Advisory Committee that backed the study’s recommendation last year. “If you had a real policy in place that told the officers what they can and cannot do, and you enforce that policy and you impose discipline if they violated that policy, then I think this incident would not have occurred” based on the information police have released, Alejandro told FFXnow. The university study found that Black individuals are 1.8 times more likely than their white counterparts to have a weapon pointed at them by police. https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/02/27/new-fairfax-county-naacp-calls-for-independent-investigation-into-fatal-police-shooting-in-tysons/ |
Anonymous
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Think of it as this case, what PP is calling "police shooting for shoplifting" - which it really isn't - at retaliation for the OJ verdict.
Now you get it? |