Barbie trailer

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Anonymous wrote:It was so much better than I expected! The whole cast was great, but Ryan Gosling was exceptional and exceptionally funny.

For those who saw it….Please tell me you laughed at the depression barbie and the Pride and Prejudice rewatch. I was crying with laughter.

I’m one of the ones who didn’t like it (sadly, I was really hoping to love it), and those bits just made me roll my eyes. But to be fair, right around then I was debating whether I should just leave and cut my losses or not. So, by then I’d pretty much written the entire thing off.

I didn’t end up leaving, but in hindsight I probably should have.

I felt this way about the last Hunger Games movie I saw in a theatre. What didn't you like about the movie?

Where to start? It was cynical and heavy-handed. The forced inclusivity was painful and manipulative. There are so many examples of performative and tokenized diversity that were just awful. For instance, Mattel has never and would never make a truly fat Barbie like in the movie (their 2016 “curvy” Barbie is maybe a size 6 and they barely advertise it); in reality, the company probably contributed to the eating disorders of thousands of particularly Gen X girls, yet they put fat Barbie in the movie — who still gets no good lines, just in as the tokenized fat friend. Body diversity that is just there for the sake of driving more profits to the corporation that probably did more than most others to suppress bodily diversity is just profoundly cynical. I don’t need to pay Mattel to lightly diversity-wash itself and then go back to its piles of cash built on selling body image disorders to girls. I didn’t go to the movie intending to pay Mattel to be part of its own advertising campaign that above all else is design to cleanse its own image (but of course, not change what they actually sell and do). Yet that’s what I did, what all of us who bought tickets did.

Moving on: the movie trailer was funny. The movie itself was drained of nearly all humor, even managing to make the clips in the trailer fall flat. Even Ryan Gosling couldn’t save the movie from the endemic tedium. I almost could have dealt with what I wrote in the paragraph above if it had been funny. But it was profoundly unfunny.

The plot was barely existent. I realize it is a movie about Barbie but still, I like a movie that assumes its audience isn’t completely devoid of functional brain cells.

I will say this: the costumes and set design were very good. Towards the end, I stopped trying to listen to anything and just watched the sets and costumes. (although I couldn’t avoid the awful ending because that dominated the screen). I enjoyed it more when I stopped listening and just looked at the visual design.

Are you not up on Mattel and Barbie and the way they evolved the product? Not aware of any of the backstory to the film’s making? Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie are in the driver’s seat here, not Mattel.

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This is the first time I’ve seen anyone say the film was cynical. In fact, pretty much ever critic has said the opposite - it works because Greta Gerwig is so very not cynical.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, it was not good. It may have a good opening weekend but I don’t think it will last too long.

When you get a rave review from the notoriously hard to please New Yorker film critic, and you take in $155 in like two days, you’re doing pretty okay as a filmmaker.

People, just don't pay money to see it if you don't buy into the hype. I'm not. And I have nothing against Barbie. I don't think Barbie has any significance in a girl's life, unless she didn't have great role models in real life. That's the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was so much better than I expected! The whole cast was great, but Ryan Gosling was exceptional and exceptionally funny.

For those who saw it….Please tell me you laughed at the depression barbie and the Pride and Prejudice rewatch. I was crying with laughter.

I’m one of the ones who didn’t like it (sadly, I was really hoping to love it), and those bits just made me roll my eyes. But to be fair, right around then I was debating whether I should just leave and cut my losses or not. So, by then I’d pretty much written the entire thing off.

I didn’t end up leaving, but in hindsight I probably should have.

I felt this way about the last Hunger Games movie I saw in a theatre. What didn't you like about the movie?

Where to start? It was cynical and heavy-handed. The forced inclusivity was painful and manipulative. There are so many examples of performative and tokenized diversity that were just awful. For instance, Mattel has never and would never make a truly fat Barbie like in the movie (their 2016 “curvy” Barbie is maybe a size 6 and they barely advertise it); in reality, the company probably contributed to the eating disorders of thousands of particularly Gen X girls, yet they put fat Barbie in the movie — who still gets no good lines, just in as the tokenized fat friend. Body diversity that is just there for the sake of driving more profits to the corporation that probably did more than most others to suppress bodily diversity is just profoundly cynical. I don’t need to pay Mattel to lightly diversity-wash itself and then go back to its piles of cash built on selling body image disorders to girls. I didn’t go to the movie intending to pay Mattel to be part of its own advertising campaign that above all else is design to cleanse its own image (but of course, not change what they actually sell and do). Yet that’s what I did, what all of us who bought tickets did.

Moving on: the movie trailer was funny. The movie itself was drained of nearly all humor, even managing to make the clips in the trailer fall flat. Even Ryan Gosling couldn’t save the movie from the endemic tedium. I almost could have dealt with what I wrote in the paragraph above if it had been funny. But it was profoundly unfunny.

The plot was barely existent. I realize it is a movie about Barbie but still, I like a movie that assumes its audience isn’t completely devoid of functional brain cells.

I will say this: the costumes and set design were very good. Towards the end, I stopped trying to listen to anything and just watched the sets and costumes. (although I couldn’t avoid the awful ending because that dominated the screen). I enjoyed it more when I stopped listening and just looked at the visual design.

Are you not up on Mattel and Barbie and the way they evolved the product? Not aware of any of the backstory to the film’s making? Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie are in the driver’s seat here, not Mattel.

Oh come on. Surely you don’t believe that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, it was not good. It may have a good opening weekend but I don’t think it will last too long.

When you get a rave review from the notoriously hard to please New Yorker film critic, and you take in $155 in like two days, you’re doing pretty okay as a filmmaker.

People, just don't pay money to see it if you don't buy into the hype. I'm not. And I have nothing against Barbie. I don't think Barbie has any significance in a girl's life, unless she didn't have great role models in real life. That's the truth.

What is the hype? It’s just a movie. Did you feel the same about the Super Mario bros film? Or teenage mutant ninja turtles? I don’t understand why people are politicizing a film about a toy.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the first time I’ve seen anyone say the film was cynical. In fact, pretty much ever critic has said the opposite - it works because Greta Gerwig is so very not cynical.

This is actually part of a trend with critics I’ve noticed in other contexts. I think movie critics themselves are so seeped in cynicism that they can’t actually recognize a deliberately cynical movie when they encounter one. Movie criticism used to be done mostly by people who truly loved movies, but a lot of those critics have retired or moved on. The critics these days don’t seem to be able to actually enjoy a movie. Even if they give a good review, there is no joy in the experience. I think many critics are somehow afraid to show any happiness in the experience of cinema, and the pure joy of movies has been crushed out of a lot of reviewers. I used to read a lot of reviews. I didn’t always agree with them but what I felt I shared with the critics was a love of movies. But that’s been missing from reviews for awhile; I stopped reading.

Barbie is both cynical and manipulative, but if you make your living being profoundly cynical yourself, you can’t recognize it. In fact, packaged and cynical “joy” like Barbie provides is probably very appealing to most current critics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, it was not good. It may have a good opening weekend but I don’t think it will last too long.

When you get a rave review from the notoriously hard to please New Yorker film critic, and you take in $155 in like two days, you’re doing pretty okay as a filmmaker.

People, just don't pay money to see it if you don't buy into the hype. I'm not. And I have nothing against Barbie. I don't think Barbie has any significance in a girl's life, unless she didn't have great role models in real life. That's the truth.

What is the hype? It’s just a movie. Did you feel the same about the Super Mario bros film? Or teenage mutant ninja turtles? I don’t understand why people are politicizing a film about a toy.

I think the critics here don't even know what the Barbie movie is about. They are just having some sort of knee jerk reaction because it's Barbie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, it was not good. It may have a good opening weekend but I don’t think it will last too long.

When you get a rave review from the notoriously hard to please New Yorker film critic, and you take in $155 in like two days, you’re doing pretty okay as a filmmaker.

People, just don't pay money to see it if you don't buy into the hype. I'm not. And I have nothing against Barbie. I don't think Barbie has any significance in a girl's life, unless she didn't have great role models in real life. That's the truth.

What is the hype? It’s just a movie. Did you feel the same about the Super Mario bros film? Or teenage mutant ninja turtles? I don’t understand why people are politicizing a film about a toy.

I think the critics here don't even know what the Barbie movie is about. They are just having some sort of knee jerk reaction because it's Barbie.

🙄🙄🙄

I was in this thread earlier posting about how much I loved the trailer. I thought the actual movie sucked.

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I loved it. I had no idea what the actual plot was going to be and I thought it was great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the barbie movie boosters have curiously dissappeared, they are no longer jumping in to stamp out any attempt to criticize the movie--I gues they see that their job is done, they suckered peole into spending their money to watch the money, doesn't matter if the people are satisfied or not after the fact

Never change, insane PR conspiracy lady

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, it was not good. It may have a good opening weekend but I don’t think it will last too long.

When you get a rave review from the notoriously hard to please New Yorker film critic, and you take in $155 in like two days, you’re doing pretty okay as a filmmaker.

People, just don't pay money to see it if you don't buy into the hype. I'm not. And I have nothing against Barbie. I don't think Barbie has any significance in a girl's life, unless she didn't have great role models in real life. That's the truth.

What is the hype? It’s just a movie. Did you feel the same about the Super Mario bros film? Or teenage mutant ninja turtles? I don’t understand why people are politicizing a film about a toy.

I think the critics here don't even know what the Barbie movie is about. They are just having some sort of knee jerk reaction because it's Barbie.

🙄🙄🙄

I was in this thread earlier posting about how much I loved the trailer. I thought the actual movie sucked.

Are you in here talking about being too cool for the hype and vowing to not even see the movie? If not, then I'm not talking to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saw it tonight. It was cute at times, then poignant briefly and at some points kind of dragged. A few giggles but no laugh out loud moments. Got a little preachy.

+1 perfect summary!

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It seems like this movie appeals to a wildly diverse group of people, based on these photos:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/interactive/2023/barbie-movie-fans-outfits-photos/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/interactive/2023/barbie-movie-fans-outfits-photos/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, it was not good. It may have a good opening weekend but I don’t think it will last too long.

When you get a rave review from the notoriously hard to please New Yorker film critic, and you take in $155 in like two days, you’re doing pretty okay as a filmmaker.

People, just don't pay money to see it if you don't buy into the hype. I'm not. And I have nothing against Barbie. I don't think Barbie has any significance in a girl's life, unless she didn't have great role models in real life. That's the truth.

What is the hype? It’s just a movie. Did you feel the same about the Super Mario bros film? Or teenage mutant ninja turtles? I don’t understand why people are politicizing a film about a toy.

I think the critics here don't even know what the Barbie movie is about. They are just having some sort of knee jerk reaction because it's Barbie.

I enjoy the crazy MAGA people screaming that they won’t see it because it’s “woke.” Maybe some of those people are on DCUM lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the first time I’ve seen anyone say the film was cynical. In fact, pretty much ever critic has said the opposite - it works because Greta Gerwig is so very not cynical.

This is actually part of a trend with critics I’ve noticed in other contexts. I think movie critics themselves are so seeped in cynicism that they can’t actually recognize a deliberately cynical movie when they encounter one. Movie criticism used to be done mostly by people who truly loved movies, but a lot of those critics have retired or moved on. The critics these days don’t seem to be able to actually enjoy a movie. Even if they give a good review, there is no joy in the experience. I think many critics are somehow afraid to show any happiness in the experience of cinema, and the pure joy of movies has been crushed out of a lot of reviewers. I used to read a lot of reviews. I didn’t always agree with them but what I felt I shared with the critics was a love of movies. But that’s been missing from reviews for awhile; I stopped reading.

Barbie is both cynical and manipulative, but if you make your living being profoundly cynical yourself, you can’t recognize it. In fact, packaged and cynical “joy” like Barbie provides is probably very appealing to most current critics.

Right. Greta Gerwig, the filmmaker behind Frances Ha, LadyBird, Little Women, and this film, is just a cynic. Film critics can’t recognize this, but you, a random DCUM poster, are smarter than everyone else. That is so DC