Will your child wear a mask when they go back to school?

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Anonymous wrote:I got a huge pile of n95 from abroad and they are more comfortable than k 95. Yes, my kids will mask. They wear cloth masks routinely. The teenagers don’t seem to have a problem with masking. It’s adults who have an issue.


There is no way those n95s are comfortable if they actually fit properly.


My kids found a brand they liked and they fit well. They wear them without prompting.


Save money for the years of therapy your kids will need to recover from your baseless fear.


Covid was miserable.. if you want to get it multiple times, go for it, but for us as a family... not something we want to chance again.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.


No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Sorry, never heard of that name of your college.
There is also abundant information and studies showing that is not true.
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Anonymous wrote:I got a huge pile of n95 from abroad and they are more comfortable than k 95. Yes, my kids will mask. They wear cloth masks routinely. The teenagers don’t seem to have a problem with masking. It’s adults who have an issue.


There is no way those n95s are comfortable if they actually fit properly.


My kids found a brand they liked and they fit well. They wear them without prompting.


Save money for the years of therapy your kids will need to recover from your baseless fear.


How much is your therapy costing you for your fear of people wearing masks.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?


Yep. This nurse PP and another PP are making that exact claim. It is blatant misinformation. Not even sure why posts like that are allowed to stay on the site. I’ve seen other posts (actual, factual posts with supporting links) deleted and censored. Super strange.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?


DP. Being exposed to bacteria and viruses cannot make a stronger immune system, it can broaden it. Conversely, being exposed to some may cause immune system to over respond causing an allergy, etc. Living a balanced life is key.
Vitamin D is often lacking in many.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?


Yep. This nurse PP and another PP are making that exact claim. It is blatant misinformation. Not even sure why posts like that are allowed to stay on the site. I’ve seen other posts (actual, factual posts with supporting links) deleted and censored. Super strange.


Curious of your medical background and training.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



You must be because I wasn’t making a point about immunity either way. I was making a point about your ignorant claim that posters who tell people they need to do their homework are automatically wrong. They aren’t. You can’t even read but you’re out here yelling at everyone else. Calm down.
No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?


Yep. This nurse PP and another PP are making that exact claim. It is blatant misinformation. Not even sure why posts like that are allowed to stay on the site. I’ve seen other posts (actual, factual posts with supporting links) deleted and censored. Super strange.


Curious of your medical background and training.


Compared to a nurse?

That’s sort of like saying the cashier at a grocery store is an authoritative source on nutrition. That’s not their role or training.

I’m really struggling to think of a plausible interpretation of those posts that could be correct in some sort of nuanced way. Obviously exposure to viruses and bacteria produces antibodies, t cells, b cells, etc., the information from which remain in the body in different forms for long periods of time. This is an important part of the immune system.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?


Yep. This nurse PP and another PP are making that exact claim. It is blatant misinformation. Not even sure why posts like that are allowed to stay on the site. I’ve seen other posts (actual, factual posts with supporting links) deleted and censored. Super strange.


Curious of your medical background and training.


Compared to a nurse?

That’s sort of like saying the cashier at a grocery store is an authoritative source on nutrition. That’s not their role or training.

I’m really struggling to think of a plausible interpretation of those posts that could be correct in some sort of nuanced way. Obviously exposure to viruses and bacteria produces antibodies, t cells, b cells, etc., the information from which remain in the body in different forms for long periods of time. This is an important part of the immune system.


A cashier at a grocery store and nutrition is a terrible analogy. A nurse gets training in medicine whereas a cashier gets training in swiping bar codes.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?


Yep. This nurse PP and another PP are making that exact claim. It is blatant misinformation. Not even sure why posts like that are allowed to stay on the site. I’ve seen other posts (actual, factual posts with supporting links) deleted and censored. Super strange.


Curious of your medical background and training.


Compared to a nurse?

That’s sort of like saying the cashier at a grocery store is an authoritative source on nutrition. That’s not their role or training.

I’m really struggling to think of a plausible interpretation of those posts that could be correct in some sort of nuanced way. Obviously exposure to viruses and bacteria produces antibodies, t cells, b cells, etc., the information from which remain in the body in different forms for long periods of time. This is an important part of the immune system.


You deflected from answering what your medical background and training consists off.
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Anonymous wrote:No way on masks. Covid is never going away. I’d rather let my kids strengthen their immune systems while you g than trying to hide from a virus. No way on masks.


That’s a myth.


What is a myth?

It is absolutely true that kids need exposure to a wide variety of germs growing up to build a strong immune system! Bring on the coughs and colds.


It’s called the hygiene hypothesis and has been proven by several medical establishments such as MIT Medical and others to be not true.
It does nothing to neither weaken nor boost one’s immune system.



No. The hygiene hypothesis has to do with kids developing allergies.

It is well-known that kids need exposure to bacteria and viruses as kids to develop their immune systems. That is exactly how the immune system (and vaccines) work.


Agreed. How could exposure to bacteria/viruses not boost the immune system? That's how it's trained. Ask the Martians how this works.

The research (including MIT Medical) clearly talks about allergies.


A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response.

This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system


DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false.


Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children.


You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven.


How do vaccines work?


Again, you can look up that information along with the other information.


It's just magic, right? Vaccines have nothing to do with the immune system. Vaccines just magically circulate through the body to fight the bad guys.


Drinking early in day, aren’t you?


I don't know. Can I find the answer on the "internet of studies"?


DP. It’s not the “internet of studies,” meaning the studies of the internet. Can you not understand context? It’s says general info from the internet of studies (done). My God, do you take everything so literal and not learn inferential and context in comprehension?


I understand that when somebody on a message board points you to the internet, that poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.


You don’t understand that the information you asked for is found easily on many sites on the internet; that one does not need to hold your hand to the many sites.


When somebody on a message board says "look it up; do your research; Google it, etc.", they reliably don't know what they're talking about. That poster proved it via this incredulous exchange (these aren't my posts below). What part about original poster's premise is wrong?

Poster: "A child is exposed to a virus. The body launches an immune response. The child gets sick with a fever, cough, etc. These are all signs of the body’s immune response. Ideally (and usually), the child can fight off the virus successfully. The next time this child is exposed to the same virus, the child’s immune system ‘remembers’ the virus from the last time and launches an even stronger response. This is the basic idea with vaccines and natural immunity. Obviously it is different for kids who are immunocompromised. But, for the average, healthy child, it is necessary to be exposed to bacteria and viruses as a child to develop a robust immune system"


Simpleton: "DP. That’s been a long-standing belief but in reality is false."


Poster: "Ok, then please do explain how the immune system develops in children."


Simpleton: "You can get that information form an immunologist or general information from the internet of studies.
You can also find plenty of information from reputable medical establishments talking about the topic and how it’s been disproven."


Not even sort of true. I’ve wasted time posting links to reputable sources on the net many times. Spoiler: people who don’t want to believe in something won’t ever change their mind no matter what facts they are presented with. They’d rather live in their ignorant bubble. I’m done doing their research for them and it doesn’t make my well researched points any less valid just because I have better things to do. People need to do the heavy lifting on their own. Or they don’t. This country is full of people who’d rather celebrate ignorance rather than educate themselves. Those of us who are educated are exhausted.


There’s hundreds of links on the internet that say the immune system is developed in childhood thru exposure to viruses and bacteria. That’s the premise of how vaccines work as well. By chance, were you educated at Clown College?


Nurse here, there are many factors to building and maintaining a stronger immune system throughout one’s life. Diet, genetics, inflammation, exposure to irritants, stress, etc all contribute. Exposure to viruses and bacteria is a very common misnomer.


DP. Are you actually claiming exposure to viruses and bacteria does not help to develop a stronger immune system?


Yep. This nurse PP and another PP are making that exact claim. It is blatant misinformation. Not even sure why posts like that are allowed to stay on the site. I’ve seen other posts (actual, factual posts with supporting links) deleted and censored. Super strange.


Curious of your medical background and training.


Compared to a nurse?

That’s sort of like saying the cashier at a grocery store is an authoritative source on nutrition. That’s not their role or training.

I’m really struggling to think of a plausible interpretation of those posts that could be correct in some sort of nuanced way. Obviously exposure to viruses and bacteria produces antibodies, t cells, b cells, etc., the information from which remain in the body in different forms for long periods of time. This is an important part of the immune system.


I don't know if people are being purposely obtuse, ill-educated, or getting lost in the nuance. Of course your immune system gets "stronger" when exposed to new viruses/bacteria during childhood. It now has a new signature it its "database". It's stronger. It's no different than the partial natural immunity conveyed during Covid (or via vaccine). Your immune system is stronger because it's smarter.
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