NCS college admissions if kid is not a legacy, URM, or athletic recruit

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think this is just a ploy to get someone to withdraw from their contract before May 31st...?
If not, what does the newish HOS have to say about this? Perhaps a change is afoot?

Have you looked at the list of where girls are going to school next year? It’s very impressive. The OP is completely deranged seriously.

Op is absolutely nuts. She posted the same question on another thread.

What’s nuts?

There’s a list of top college acceptances and the URMs, athletes and Big donors hoovered them all up. I’m sure they had decent grades and smarts too.

Of the 7 or so Athletic recruits I know from DC's Big 3 grad year ( in the last 2 years ), 4 were also Cum Laude society, Presidential Scholar nominee, who took the most challenging courses and were on several clubs in a leadership role ( Editor of school paper, etc.. ) in addition to being WAPO All Met, nationally ranked in their sport

Being a recruited athlete often means high performer in other areas, which is why colleges bet on them for decades

These girls are outstanding and deserve their admits. BUT what about the club leader, cum laude, most rigorous courses etc same profile but athlete ends up at Columbia and students 2 who is unhooked ends up at BU. They are both brilliant but one has a much stronger outcome. And imagine student 2 who is top of their class then facing all the other kids who aren’t cum laude and taking the most rigorous courses end up at higher ranked school due to the hooks. That sucks for student 2.

Then student 2 should have tried to be more like student 1 and be a great academic candidate AND a great athlete. But student 2 didn't show that kind of hard work and commitment. I'm sure student 2 had to work hard, but not as hard as athletes have to.

SO TRUE! Because no other extracurricular requires commitment and hard work!

You don’t understand. Being an athlete teaches you such things as time management, grit, teamwork and learning how to lose. These are all traits that can only be gained through being an athlete. That’s why schools like Harvard admit them even if their academic ratings are at the bottom of the pile.

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Colleges admit athletes because they want good athletes. Put differently, if they wanted the traits you associate with athletes, they would screen for those traits. But they dont't.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think this is just a ploy to get someone to withdraw from their contract before May 31st...?
If not, what does the newish HOS have to say about this? Perhaps a change is afoot?

Have you looked at the list of where girls are going to school next year? It’s very impressive. The OP is completely deranged seriously.

Op is absolutely nuts. She posted the same question on another thread.

What’s nuts?

There’s a list of top college acceptances and the URMs, athletes and Big donors hoovered them all up. I’m sure they had decent grades and smarts too.

Of the 7 or so Athletic recruits I know from DC's Big 3 grad year ( in the last 2 years ), 4 were also Cum Laude society, Presidential Scholar nominee, who took the most challenging courses and were on several clubs in a leadership role ( Editor of school paper, etc.. ) in addition to being WAPO All Met, nationally ranked in their sport

Being a recruited athlete often means high performer in other areas, which is why colleges bet on them for decades

These girls are outstanding and deserve their admits. BUT what about the club leader, cum laude, most rigorous courses etc same profile but athlete ends up at Columbia and students 2 who is unhooked ends up at BU. They are both brilliant but one has a much stronger outcome. And imagine student 2 who is top of their class then facing all the other kids who aren’t cum laude and taking the most rigorous courses end up at higher ranked school due to the hooks. That sucks for student 2.

Then student 2 should have tried to be more like student 1 and be a great academic candidate AND a great athlete. But student 2 didn't show that kind of hard work and commitment. I'm sure student 2 had to work hard, but not as hard as athletes have to.

SO TRUE! Because no other extracurricular requires commitment and hard work!

You don’t understand. Being an athlete teaches you such things as time management, grit, teamwork and learning how to lose. These are all traits that can only be gained through being an athlete. That’s why schools like Harvard admit them even if their academic ratings are at the bottom of the pile.

Hahahahahahaha. What?

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Agree that OP is a student and this thread needs to die

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Finally looked at the list. I'm a longtime teacher at a different school and wow, I'm impressed. I see talented young women ready to take the world by storm going to an awesome selection of schools around the country -- big state universities, small liberal arts colleges, schools renowned for humanities, schools known for engineering and STEM.

Congratulations NCS class of 2022! I know you've all worked hard and you will be so well prepared and represent yourselves, your family and your school amazingly. Loved seeing all the kids in different settings in some really stunning photos. Well done all of you! (And well done parents, your kids are poised to do so well at the next stage of their academic journey.)

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Anonymous wrote:Finally looked at the list. I'm a longtime teacher at a different school and wow, I'm impressed. I see talented young women ready to take the world by storm going to an awesome selection of schools around the country -- big state universities, small liberal arts colleges, schools renowned for humanities, schools known for engineering and STEM.

Congratulations NCS class of 2022! I know you've all worked hard and you will be so well prepared and represent yourselves, your family and your school amazingly. Loved seeing all the kids in different settings in some really stunning photos. Well done all of you! (And well done parents, your kids are poised to do so well at the next stage of their academic journey.)

So refreshing...a positive, non-snarky post on DCUM. Brava and I have no dog in the fight with respect to NCS.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is almost a straight A student in lower high school (a few A minuses). She works really hard for these grades. I've been looking at the college admissions this year and it really seems like you have about 25 girls going ti top colleges and (outside of two girls) ALL are legacy, URM or crew athletes. Then the admissions seem to go off a cliff. thank goodness for u of Chicagj because that seems it be the solo outlier.
I am not looking for an IVY admit (at all) but I'm getting freaked out by the schools that girls outside of the above categories are attending. I won't name names but they're in instagram.

Tell it to my straight. A/a- student.
Did anyone apply their daughter from NCS this year? Where are we looking at?

Op you are a stalker of minor age children and it is creepy. Get a life.

Not to mention The fact that they took the time to look up where every single student was going to college and determine what category they should be in a URM, hook, etc. I don’t think it’s in NCS parent it might be an Ncs girl or someone from another school

Have you met NCS moms? They are 100% capable of this behavior. OP refuses to let us know how she conducted her research. I assume she took out her directory, got the parents' names, then checked their LinkedIns. If OP had spent her life more productively and meaningfully, maybe she too would have a "hooked" kid, instead of a one-dimensional A- student.

Doesn't take that long frankly. 12/13 kids. With the directory, less than 10-15 mins of Linkedin research. And clarifies the picture re legacies completely. Not sure why this is somehow not a cool thing to do. The placement outcomes are hugely misleading as to actual chances for an unhooked kid. Now, we know.

No hon normal people do not spend their time doing this. OP Please get psychiatric help asap. I am confident you are a troll and not an NCS parent but a very jealous loon that also posted the “STA college is dismal” post. A quick ip check would determine whether you are the op of both. Troll poster.

If only "abnormal" people gather this kind of information, then thank goodness for abnormal people. It's about time that people disseminate the information that will cause most people to realize that Ivy acceptance is NOT a proxy for academic ability.

That said, two of the three hooks discussed--URM and athletes--actually add a lot to the schools in a very obvious way. And, as a non-athlete, I reluctantly have to admit that athletes are often very good at TEAMWORK, which is a skill that the non-athlete grinds at schools like NCS often lack.

The college administrators might say that legacies add to the sense of community or, at least, to the bottom line. I don't buy it.

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Imagine the undergraduate experience at a school with no athletes and only academic grinds. Sounds like fun!

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine the undergraduate experience at a school with no athletes and only academic grinds. Sounds like fun!

It is fun…if you are an academic grind.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine the undergraduate experience at a school with no athletes and only academic grinds. Sounds like fun!

That’s most universities in the world. They all seem to be doing fine.

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Then apply to those non-US universities and stop complaining about the ones here. Problem solved!

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine the undergraduate experience at a school with no athletes and only academic grinds. Sounds like fun!

how many students at MIT or Yale attend the typical game there? Check the attendance at the average baseball or lacrosse game. It's less than 1% probably. No one would miss it.

so sad that your definition of 'fun' limited to going to a game. you should get out more.

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Anonymous wrote:Then apply to those non-US universities and stop complaining about the ones here. Problem solved!

What a great idea. Will do. Let's empty out the universities of students and fill them with athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:Finally looked at the list. I'm a longtime teacher at a different school and wow, I'm impressed. I see talented young women ready to take the world by storm going to an awesome selection of schools around the country -- big state universities, small liberal arts colleges, schools renowned for humanities, schools known for engineering and STEM.

Congratulations NCS class of 2022! I know you've all worked hard and you will be so well prepared and represent yourselves, your family and your school amazingly. Loved seeing all the kids in different settings in some really stunning photos. Well done all of you! (And well done parents, your kids are poised to do so well at the next stage of their academic journey.)

So refreshing...a positive, non-snarky post on DCUM. Brava and I have no dog in the fight with respect to NCS.

Let's get real. OPs point was not that there weren't any impressive outcomes -- but rather that they were mostly legacy/URM/Athlete. Nothing that this longtime teacher says contradicts the point. OPs observation stays.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine the undergraduate experience at a school with no athletes and only academic grinds. Sounds like fun!

Believe it or not many college students who don't play intercollegiate sports are actually great athletes, and were very good varsity athletes in high school. And that virtually all of the kids going to the top colleges these days who were not athletes have accomplishments in other extracurriculars that are just as, if not more, impressive and - surprise - add just as much to the college community. Given the attendance at most of the varsity games at my HYP, it was pretty much an undergraduate experience with no athletics.