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10/02/2025 13:10

Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of MLSN talk on an ECNL thread. Why don’t you people nut up and start your own thread. Because you are clearly on the wrong thread and only the two of you care about this. You can talk about your academy kids nonexistent chance of making pro elsewhere.

The chance for any P2P MLSN player to go pro is 0%. It is a marketing scam that many parents fall for. Any special rule to mimic pro-environment, trying to make those p2p MLSN look legit is fake.

This is true but all of the MLSN p2p players/parents I know also know this. Except for maybe at the U13 level, they all know the deal. They are doing it to help make a D1 or high level D2 college roster spot available. That's it. That's why my own kid does it. No one inside the program is being fooled...

And the argument from some that MLSN is just for creating some sort of pro pathway and they don't care about college or anything else is a fool. Why would they expand to P2P clubs? Why would they create MLSN2? It is literally just a youth league like any other youth league out there. The only difference is that there are a few (very few) legitimate academies at the very top.

This is true in our experience. MLS academy players are the only ones with a realistic chance to go pro and even that chance is pretty small. Both players at mlsnext p2p clubs and ecnl players have virtually no shot at pro.

I think mlsnext has some things in place at the u13 and u14 level that prioritize development and that gives them an advantage over ecnl. Beyond that, not much difference between the leagues.

As far as which league is better for college placement, that probably depends on which league is more competitive in your geographic area, the contacts your personal coach has with colleges, and the help your specific gives with college placement. In our experience, most clubs provide very little help and it’s up to the athlete to market themselves. College scouts are at mlsnext and ecnl events but they rarely just stumble onto a kid by chance watching, there’s usually been prior communication.

In the past, a draw for mlsnext has been that they play mls academy teams. Now they are playing academy teams a year younger. I’m curious to see if that draw remains the same. There wasn’t as much excitement to play that game for my sons team this fall but maybe that won’t be others experience.

This is like saying my B team player has virtually no shot at winning XYZ championship at the highest level.

Its tier 2 what do you expect?

At least you're teams players are getting looks from top team coaches.

The parents posting here are delusional.

I don’t think I said otherwise. I think most parents accept it for what it is and for many kids it is the best option.

The idea that mlsnext can’t do xyz because they are solely in the business of creating pros is just not true.

Once again I didn't say that either.

I said MLS Next was created by MLS to find talent that can play professionally. This is the priority. A by product of the league is developing players college teams can recruit.

I do agree that part is true. It’s also true that academies spend a lot of money developing kids and there’s not a lot of money being made selling kids or signing kids to homegrown contracts. At least not enough to offset the money being put in. Some academies are better at this than others, but this goal and original purpose of this league is not profitable.

The majority of the money being made by the league is from p2p mlsnext homegrown and academy/second tier clubs.

As with anything, money drives goals and decision making. That may have been the original purpose of the league but it’s not currently the whole picture of what’s going on.

Whats going to be interesting is now that collges can pay players. How long do you think it will be before MLS Next starts charging colleges for MLS talent? Eventually all the pro leagues will figure out that they can work together to force colleges to pay a fee per player.

I think if someone can figure out how to make money they will.

MLS academies can retain rights to players through college so there is a possibility now for them to make money if the player goes pro after college.

Mlsnext p2p clubs are sending their best talent to mls academies and getting no compensation in return. In this case parents are paying for the club training but I wonder if this will change in the future.