Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's offensive to all women when a man can claim that he is a woman, even though he clearly is not


It's not my intention to attack you at all, because I can honestly see why you'd say that, I do see your point, but your post reminded me of my own majorly minority opinion...

In contrast, I personally think it's offensive when someone has an opinion about anyone else's gender identity. Only the person living in the brain and body knows their own experiences so I would never be able to say someone else is "clearly" anything other than what they say they are. The gender identity spectrum is too complicated for that and about more than just what parts someone has.
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Anonymous wrote:Townhouses/apartments with children are child abuse


That's interesting. Why?


Children NEED to scream and to run around. In a house there is a garden where they can do this to their hearts content and can go to whenever, and the house is apart from other houses so no noise coming through. In an apartment/townhouse you WILL have people complaining if dc are too loud indoors and the park doesn't count. Therefore dc are being robbed of their childhood and other tenants are being robbed of their sanity.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it's offensive to all women when a man can claim that he is a woman, even though he clearly is not


It's not my intention to attack you at all, because I can honestly see why you'd say that, I do see your point, but your post reminded me of my own majorly minority opinion...

In contrast, I personally think it's offensive when someone has an opinion about anyone else's gender identity. Only the person living in the brain and body knows their own experiences so I would never be able to say someone else is "clearly" anything other than what they say they are. The gender identity spectrum is too complicated for that and about more than just what parts someone has.


I don't intend to attack you either.

Why are people allowed to have 'opinions' on their gender identity. It's pretty binary (not talking about hermaphrodites). I live in my own body and know my own experiences. I say I am Rasputin. Do you accept this? If not why do you accept Bruce being Belinda?
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Anonymous wrote:Children should be denied SN help if their mothers were over 35 when they were born. A rare occurrence is one thing, but playing Russian roulette with other people's money? should NOT be supported


+1


What's the age cut off for husbans? Or is every genetic issue tha fault of the monther?

Why not mandate genetic testing for every couple and if they are over a certain percentage risk then they have to sign a special needs waiver to support based on that risk? And, if they don't take the test they pay significantly more?


Eggs go stale, sperm is constantly made. Did you skip your sex ed classes?


Nope, didn't skip it, but have actually stayed current with research and scientific advances rather than rely on 30 year old science. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566050/
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Anonymous wrote:Children should be denied SN help if their mothers were over 35 when they were born. A rare occurrence is one thing, but playing Russian roulette with other people's money? should NOT be supported


I would not deny the child help, but maybe charge the parents a fee or something. SN education should not be completely on the tax payers.

You people are sick and stupid. Y
Because you know automatically that the kid has issues due to the mother's age.
You are a total idiot.


You are the idiot. Even my 17 year old ds knows this. But please blame everyone else for your selfishness.
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Anonymous wrote:Children should be denied SN help if their mothers were over 35 when they were born. A rare occurrence is one thing, but playing Russian roulette with other people's money? should NOT be supported


+1


What's the age cut off for husbans? Or is every genetic issue tha fault of the monther?

Why not mandate genetic testing for every couple and if they are over a certain percentage risk then they have to sign a special needs waiver to support based on that risk? And, if they don't take the test they pay significantly more?


Eggs go stale, sperm is constantly made. Did you skip your sex ed classes?


Nope, didn't skip it, but have actually stayed current with research and scientific advances rather than rely on 30 year old science. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566050/


“even if the genetic risk for progeny from older fathers is slightly increased, the risk to the individual is low”. - Your report, their conclusion
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Anonymous wrote:Children should be denied SN help if their mothers were over 35 when they were born. A rare occurrence is one thing, but playing Russian roulette with other people's money? should NOT be supported


I would not deny the child help, but maybe charge the parents a fee or something. SN education should not be completely on the tax payers.

You people are sick and stupid. Y
Because you know automatically that the kid has issues due to the mother's age.
You are a total idiot.


Nice red herring. Now please provide your answer for the issue PP was getting at.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Children should be denied SN help if their mothers were over 35 when they were born. A rare occurrence is one thing, but playing Russian roulette with other people's money? should NOT be supported


+1


What's the age cut off for husbans? Or is every genetic issue tha fault of the monther?

Why not mandate genetic testing for every couple and if they are over a certain percentage risk then they have to sign a special needs waiver to support based on that risk? And, if they don't take the test they pay significantly more?


Eggs go stale, sperm is constantly made. Did you skip your sex ed classes?


Nope, didn't skip it, but have actually stayed current with research and scientific advances rather than rely on 30 year old science. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566050/


“even if the genetic risk for progeny from older fathers is slightly increased, the risk to the individual is low”. - Your report, their conclusion


Which proves the point I was making. "Low" does not equate to "does not exist". As I facetiously mentioned above, perhaps a sliding scale of risk should be tied to special needs assistance.
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I think abortion is worse than slavery.
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Anonymous wrote:Children should be denied SN help if their mothers were over 35 when they were born. A rare occurrence is one thing, but playing Russian roulette with other people's money? should NOT be supported


I would not deny the child help, but maybe charge the parents a fee or something. SN education should not be completely on the tax payers.

You people are sick and stupid. Y
Because you know automatically that the kid has issues due to the mother's age.
You are a total idiot.


Nice red herring. Now please provide your answer for the issue PP was getting at.

Not a red herring . Prove mom's eggs were the cause of kid's problems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think abortion is worse than slavery.


Really?i will never understand this idea that unborn kids who don't know life are more valued than humans that have been born, have memories, and have a life.
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Anonymous wrote:Townhouses/apartments with children are child abuse


That's interesting. Why?


Children NEED to scream and to run around. In a house there is a garden where they can do this to their hearts content and can go to whenever, and the house is apart from other houses so no noise coming through. In an apartment/townhouse you WILL have people complaining if dc are too loud indoors and the park doesn't count. Therefore dc are being robbed of their childhood and other tenants are being robbed of their sanity.


So your kids are screaming and running around all day? I feel sorry for you. Even kids in school have to sit and be quiet and they can't run around screaming all day. Is that child abuse too?

On weekends and summer breaks, my kids go to the playground usually every day. And usually they go on other outings and such. You must be the mom who lets her kids run around the grocery store to their hearts content... Because to make them behave would be tantamount to leaving them in a closet for a week. Just because they are taught self control and how to behave doesn't mean they're being abused.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it's offensive to all women when a man can claim that he is a woman, even though he clearly is not


It's not my intention to attack you at all, because I can honestly see why you'd say that, I do see your point, but your post reminded me of my own majorly minority opinion...

In contrast, I personally think it's offensive when someone has an opinion about anyone else's gender identity. Only the person living in the brain and body knows their own experiences so I would never be able to say someone else is "clearly" anything other than what they say they are. The gender identity spectrum is too complicated for that and about more than just what parts someone has.


I don't intend to attack you either.

Why are people allowed to have 'opinions' on their gender identity. It's pretty binary (not talking about hermaphrodites). I live in my own body and know my own experiences. I say I am Rasputin. Do you accept this? If not why do you accept Bruce being Belinda?


I welcome this sort of civil discussion on what I consider an interesting and important topic.

Well, because I don't believe that gender identity is at all binary. I don't actually believe in two genders; I think evidence from societies other than our own suggests that that's an incomplete and overly limiting standard that we have because it's been ingrained in our culture. Men and women obviously exist, but as far as I'm concerned and aware so does basically an entire 'color wheel' of sorts of shades of other gender identities that are equally as legitimate.

Regarding Rasputin, first of all regardless of what I believe and mentally accept, in almost all cases I will at a minimum address people as they wish me to so if this is a genuine part of your identity not hyperbole to make a point I would absolutely call you by that name.

In terms of what I would accept of your identity... my understanding of time is such that I don't believe you can be THAT Rasputin exactly; he lived and died long ago in a different society. He was a specific individual and that specific identity has already been claimed. No two people are completely identical, as I know he never made a clone. That said, you could definitely be A Rasputin or even a reincarnation or regeneration OF Rasputin...but existing in your time and place instead of the one he originally lived in has made you fundamentally different from the original. You know your experiences. If you're Rasputin, than I'll refer to you as such and hope to develop a better understanding of what that means for you so that I can relate to you as you are and not as you only physically appear.

I accept that anyone is who they identify as unless it's done for fraudulent purposes. The interview clip I saw said Jenner still wanted to be called Bruce for now at this point in the transition, so if that's accurate I'll use that name until another one is accurate and preferred.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Townhouses/apartments with children are child abuse


That's interesting. Why?


Children NEED to scream and to run around. In a house there is a garden where they can do this to their hearts content and can go to whenever, and the house is apart from other houses so no noise coming through. In an apartment/townhouse you WILL have people complaining if dc are too loud indoors and the park doesn't count. Therefore dc are being robbed of their childhood and other tenants are being robbed of their sanity.


1) The fact that you called it a "garden" instead of a "yard" means you are British and therefore I'm even more likely to roll my eyes at your opinion. 2) My TH has a yard and easy access to walking trails and multiple playgrounds. 3) My neighbors on both sides have children and I rarely hear them. Therefore you are wrong and please have a nice day.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's offensive to all women when a man can claim that he is a woman, even though he clearly is not


It's not my intention to attack you at all, because I can honestly see why you'd say that, I do see your point, but your post reminded me of my own majorly minority opinion...

In contrast, I personally think it's offensive when someone has an opinion about anyone else's gender identity. Only the person living in the brain and body knows their own experiences so I would never be able to say someone else is "clearly" anything other than what they say they are. The gender identity spectrum is too complicated for that and about more than just what parts someone has.


I don't intend to attack you either.

Why are people allowed to have 'opinions' on their gender identity. It's pretty binary (not talking about hermaphrodites). I live in my own body and know my own experiences. I say I am Rasputin. Do you accept this? If not why do you accept Bruce being Belinda?


I welcome this sort of civil discussion on what I consider an interesting and important topic.

Well, because I don't believe that gender identity is at all binary. I don't actually believe in two genders; I think evidence from societies other than our own suggests that that's an incomplete and overly limiting standard that we have because it's been ingrained in our culture. Men and women obviously exist, but as far as I'm concerned and aware so does basically an entire 'color wheel' of sorts of shades of other gender identities that are equally as legitimate.

Regarding Rasputin, first of all regardless of what I believe and mentally accept, in almost all cases I will at a minimum address people as they wish me to so if this is a genuine part of your identity not hyperbole to make a point I would absolutely call you by that name.

In terms of what I would accept of your identity... my understanding of time is such that I don't believe you can be THAT Rasputin exactly; he lived and died long ago in a different society. He was a specific individual and that specific identity has already been claimed. No two people are completely identical, as I know he never made a clone. That said, you could definitely be A Rasputin or even a reincarnation or regeneration OF Rasputin...but existing in your time and place instead of the one he originally lived in has made you fundamentally different from the original. You know your experiences. If you're Rasputin, than I'll refer to you as such and hope to develop a better understanding of what that means for you so that I can relate to you as you are and not as you only physically appear.

I accept that anyone is who they identify as unless it's done for fraudulent purposes. The interview clip I saw said Jenner still wanted to be called Bruce for now at this point in the transition, so if that's accurate I'll use that name until another one is accurate and preferred.


But where would you draw the line and why would you draw it there?
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