New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

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Anonymous wrote:As someone that went through The 2017 girls ECNL to girls DA saga with my oldest the girls ECNL to GA drama is starting to feel exactly the same. The big difference with GA is the change is slow motion compared to before. I'm positive it's because there's no "free soccer" incentive with GA.

If a group of top ECNL clubs switch to GA as a group ECNL is over. That was the "last straw" so to speak when clubs started going to DA in mass.

ECNL could still end this whole thing if they just add Tophat, Lou Fusz, City & maybe cup/nefc.

It makes you wonder who in ECNL pissed off Tophat so much?

Or maybe it was the other way around.

Either way if Tophat maintains the current course ECNL is in trouble.

You’re saying that ECNL wants tophat back, but Tophat refuses every year?

I'm saying that ECNL needs Tophat right now if they want to stop GA momentum.

Either Tophat doesn't want to join girls ECNL or girls ECNL won't let them in. It's one or the other.

My bet is girls Tophat doesn't want to play in ECNL.

wrong. other Atlanta clubs have blocked their move back to ECNL

So you're saying that local Atlanta Clubs have more power than ECNL leadership?

Come on, you can see why this doesn't make sense.

maybe to to you but there are 4 ecnl clubs in the Atlanta area with 5 ecnl teams (Concorde has 2 ecnl). politics always rules out and old battles have never healed. you don't understand how the other clubs loathe Tophat. it just is what it is. this has been going on for a very long time, way before ECNL ever started.

Good to see that ECNL will "cut off their nose to spite their face"

[Anonymous]

1 is the face of the league the other is riding the coat tail of SD Surf, MVLA, PDA, Solar, Sting, Slammers HBK

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:hahaha hahaha, no one is flooding to GA teams. only cast offs from ecnl teams or parents of kids that play GA that have bought into their coach/club director's bs about how the two leagues are the same level. you sound like a parent of a young player. once they get to high school, you'll get it. if they want college or beyond you play in the ecnl. The GA is just the reboot of the bankrupt DA league and is probably on the path of bankruptcy itself. get your head out of the ground and stop believing the crap your club is telling you.

My kid plays on a GA team (west coast)

They practice 10 minutes from our house and go to Champion Cup and Finals every year. The ECNL clubs that do the same practice 30 min to 1.5 hours hours away. We do friendlies with ECNL clubs and beat then regularly. It's kind of fun watching the stunned parents walk out of losses in silence. Unable to comprehend what just happened.

Get over yourself. It's just a league. Development occurs at the club and with your coach + team.

DD was also on a top GA a couple of years ago, but on the East Coast. We played cross league with ECNL teams and went 9-1-1 against them. Maybe one was what you would call a "bottom" level team and the rest were playoff teams. And for most of those games, we got the same stunned reactions as their team walked out with a convincing loss. But I will say that the parents on the best ECNL teams we played were easy going and glad to play a good game out of their league, and some of the kids on the teams she played are not teammates in college.

Also, all 24 players on daughters team were recruited to play D1 P4/Mid Major. 4 chose to go to D3 schools and one just decided to not play in college in the end. I'd imagine it's similar for any top GA team.

Finally, the one thing that daughter's GA team and other top ECNL teams had in common was depth and player chemistry. We could swap out any way you wanted all game and no performance drop. sometimes through the hole bench in ( which wasn't the stereotypical bench) meant better results. Same for ECNL teams at the very top.

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Anonymous wrote:hahaha hahaha, no one is flooding to GA teams. only cast offs from ecnl teams or parents of kids that play GA that have bought into their coach/club director's bs about how the two leagues are the same level. you sound like a parent of a young player. once they get to high school, you'll get it. if they want college or beyond you play in the ecnl. The GA is just the reboot of the bankrupt DA league and is probably on the path of bankruptcy itself. get your head out of the ground and stop believing the crap your club is telling you.

My kid plays on a GA team (west coast)

They practice 10 minutes from our house and go to Champion Cup and Finals every year. The ECNL clubs that do the same practice 30 min to 1.5 hours hours away. We do friendlies with ECNL clubs and beat then regularly. It's kind of fun watching the stunned parents walk out of losses in silence. Unable to comprehend what just happened.

Get over yourself. It's just a league. Development occurs at the club and with your coach + team.

DD was also on a top GA a couple of years ago, but on the East Coast. We played cross league with ECNL teams and went 9-1-1 against them. Maybe one was what you would call a "bottom" level team and the rest were playoff teams. And for most of those games, we got the same stunned reactions as their team walked out with a convincing loss. But I will say that the parents on the best ECNL teams we played were easy going and glad to play a good game out of their league, and some of the kids on the teams she played are now teammates in college.

Also, all 24 players on daughters team were recruited to play D1 P4/Mid Major. 4 chose to go to D3 schools and one just decided to not play in college in the end. I'd imagine it's similar for any top GA team.

Finally, the one thing that daughter's GA team and other top ECNL teams had in common was depth and player chemistry. We could swap out any way you wanted all game and no performance drop. sometimes through the hole bench in ( which wasn't the stereotypical bench) meant better results. Same for ECNL teams at the very top.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone that went through The 2017 girls ECNL to girls DA saga with my oldest the girls ECNL to GA drama is starting to feel exactly the same. The big difference with GA is the change is slow motion compared to before. I'm positive it's because there's no "free soccer" incentive with GA.

If a group of top ECNL clubs switch to GA as a group ECNL is over. That was the "last straw" so to speak when clubs started going to DA in mass.

ECNL could still end this whole thing if they just add Tophat, Lou Fusz, City & maybe cup/nefc.

It makes you wonder who in ECNL pissed off Tophat so much?

Or maybe it was the other way around.

Either way if Tophat maintains the current course ECNL is in trouble.

You’re saying that ECNL wants tophat back, but Tophat refuses every year?

I'm saying that ECNL needs Tophat right now if they want to stop GA momentum.

Either Tophat doesn't want to join girls ECNL or girls ECNL won't let them in. It's one or the other.

My bet is girls Tophat doesn't want to play in ECNL.

wrong. other Atlanta clubs have blocked their move back to ECNL

So you're saying that local Atlanta Clubs have more power than ECNL leadership?

Come on, you can see why this doesn't make sense.

maybe to to you but there are 4 ecnl clubs in the Atlanta area with 5 ecnl teams (Concorde has 2 ecnl). politics always rules out and old battles have never healed. you don't understand how the other clubs loathe Tophat. it just is what it is. this has been going on for a very long time, way before ECNL ever started.

Good to see that ECNL will "cut off their nose to spite their face"

ECNL’s future is based on Tophat?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:hahaha hahaha, no one is flooding to GA teams. only cast offs from ecnl teams or parents of kids that play GA that have bought into their coach/club director's bs about how the two leagues are the same level. you sound like a parent of a young player. once they get to high school, you'll get it. if they want college or beyond you play in the ecnl. The GA is just the reboot of the bankrupt DA league and is probably on the path of bankruptcy itself. get your head out of the ground and stop believing the crap your club is telling you.

My kid plays on a GA team (west coast)

They practice 10 minutes from our house and go to Champion Cup and Finals every year. The ECNL clubs that do the same practice 30 min to 1.5 hours hours away. We do friendlies with ECNL clubs and beat then regularly. It's kind of fun watching the stunned parents walk out of losses in silence. Unable to comprehend what just happened.

Get over yourself. It's just a league. Development occurs at the club and with your coach + team.

DD was also on a top GA a couple of years ago, but on the East Coast. We played cross league with ECNL teams and went 9-1-1 against them. Maybe one was what you would call a "bottom" level team and the rest were playoff teams. And for most of those games, we got the same stunned reactions as their team walked out with a convincing loss. But I will say that the parents on the best ECNL teams we played were easy going and glad to play a good game out of their league, and some of the kids on the teams she played are now teammates in college.

Also, all 24 players on daughters team were recruited to play D1 P4/Mid Major. 4 chose to go to D3 schools and one just decided to not play in college in the end. I'd imagine it's similar for any top GA team.

Finally, the one thing that daughter's GA team and other top ECNL teams had in common was depth and player chemistry. We could swap out any way you wanted all game and no performance drop. sometimes through the hole bench in ( which wasn't the stereotypical bench) meant better results. Same for ECNL teams at the very top.

Clearly you are not from DMV. Doesnt work that way around these parts.

[Anonymous]

Nobody cares about a couple of years ago on the east coast unless its in Northern VA and sometimes MD. Your stories are fun but show your ignorance for todays everchanging landscape

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Anonymous wrote:hahaha hahaha, no one is flooding to GA teams. only cast offs from ecnl teams or parents of kids that play GA that have bought into their coach/club director's bs about how the two leagues are the same level. you sound like a parent of a young player. once they get to high school, you'll get it. if they want college or beyond you play in the ecnl. The GA is just the reboot of the bankrupt DA league and is probably on the path of bankruptcy itself. get your head out of the ground and stop believing the crap your club is telling you.

My kid plays on a GA team (west coast)

They practice 10 minutes from our house and go to Champion Cup and Finals every year. The ECNL clubs that do the same practice 30 min to 1.5 hours hours away. We do friendlies with ECNL clubs and beat then regularly. It's kind of fun watching the stunned parents walk out of losses in silence. Unable to comprehend what just happened.

Get over yourself. It's just a league. Development occurs at the club and with your coach + team.

DD was also on a top GA a couple of years ago, but on the East Coast. We played cross league with ECNL teams and went 9-1-1 against them. Maybe one was what you would call a "bottom" level team and the rest were playoff teams. And for most of those games, we got the same stunned reactions as their team walked out with a convincing loss. But I will say that the parents on the best ECNL teams we played were easy going and glad to play a good game out of their league, and some of the kids on the teams she played are now teammates in college.

Also, all 24 players on daughters team were recruited to play D1 P4/Mid Major. 4 chose to go to D3 schools and one just decided to not play in college in the end. I'd imagine it's similar for any top GA team.

Finally, the one thing that daughter's GA team and other top ECNL teams had in common was depth and player chemistry. We could swap out any way you wanted all game and no performance drop. sometimes through the hole bench in ( which wasn't the stereotypical bench) meant better results. Same for ECNL teams at the very top.

Clearly you are not from DMV. Doesnt work that way around these parts.

We get it DMV teams don't win in GA or ECNL events.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone that went through The 2017 girls ECNL to girls DA saga with my oldest the girls ECNL to GA drama is starting to feel exactly the same. The big difference with GA is the change is slow motion compared to before. I'm positive it's because there's no "free soccer" incentive with GA.

If a group of top ECNL clubs switch to GA as a group ECNL is over. That was the "last straw" so to speak when clubs started going to DA in mass.

ECNL could still end this whole thing if they just add Tophat, Lou Fusz, City & maybe cup/nefc.

It makes you wonder who in ECNL pissed off Tophat so much?

Or maybe it was the other way around.

Either way if Tophat maintains the current course ECNL is in trouble.

You’re saying that ECNL wants tophat back, but Tophat refuses every year?

I'm saying that ECNL needs Tophat right now if they want to stop GA momentum.

Either Tophat doesn't want to join girls ECNL or girls ECNL won't let them in. It's one or the other.

My bet is girls Tophat doesn't want to play in ECNL.

wrong. other Atlanta clubs have blocked their move back to ECNL

So you're saying that local Atlanta Clubs have more power than ECNL leadership?

Come on, you can see why this doesn't make sense.

maybe to to you but there are 4 ecnl clubs in the Atlanta area with 5 ecnl teams (Concorde has 2 ecnl). politics always rules out and old battles have never healed. you don't understand how the other clubs loathe Tophat. it just is what it is. this has been going on for a very long time, way before ECNL ever started.

Turf Wars, College recruiting wars, national championship (or lack of) wars, stealing players wars, preventing clubs from joining wars, mergers and aquisitions wars

Sounds a lot like the FCV-Loudoun relationship back in the day...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:hahaha hahaha, no one is flooding to GA teams. only cast offs from ecnl teams or parents of kids that play GA that have bought into their coach/club director's bs about how the two leagues are the same level. you sound like a parent of a young player. once they get to high school, you'll get it. if they want college or beyond you play in the ecnl. The GA is just the reboot of the bankrupt DA league and is probably on the path of bankruptcy itself. get your head out of the ground and stop believing the crap your club is telling you.

My kid plays on a GA team (west coast)

They practice 10 minutes from our house and go to Champion Cup and Finals every year. The ECNL clubs that do the same practice 30 min to 1.5 hours hours away. We do friendlies with ECNL clubs and beat then regularly. It's kind of fun watching the stunned parents walk out of losses in silence. Unable to comprehend what just happened.

Get over yourself. It's just a league. Development occurs at the club and with your coach + team.

DD was also on a top GA a couple of years ago, but on the East Coast. We played cross league with ECNL teams and went 9-1-1 against them. Maybe one was what you would call a "bottom" level team and the rest were playoff teams. And for most of those games, we got the same stunned reactions as their team walked out with a convincing loss. But I will say that the parents on the best ECNL teams we played were easy going and glad to play a good game out of their league, and some of the kids on the teams she played are now teammates in college.

Also, all 24 players on daughters team were recruited to play D1 P4/Mid Major. 4 chose to go to D3 schools and one just decided to not play in college in the end. I'd imagine it's similar for any top GA team.

Finally, the one thing that daughter's GA team and other top ECNL teams had in common was depth and player chemistry. We could swap out any way you wanted all game and no performance drop. sometimes through the hole bench in ( which wasn't the stereotypical bench) meant better results. Same for ECNL teams at the very top.

Clearly you are not from DMV. Doesnt work that way around these parts.

We get it DMV teams don't win in GA or ECNL events.

Weren't there there two recent GA national championships from FCV?

[Anonymous]

here's reality weather you want to see it or not.

Girls youth soccer Tier 1: Top 45 ECNL & Top 10 GA
Tier 2: ECNL 46 on down & GA 11 to 40
Tier 3: ECNL RL & GA 40 on down
Tier 4: every other club
Tier 5: Rec

problem is everyone wants to run around telling the world how great their daughter and her team is and lay claim to playing in a national league. In reality only a small percentage of players outside Tier 1 will ever play beyond high school. But these money machine clubs will never tell you reality. Just keep lining up with your club fees in hand and don't forget the extra one on one trainings to get you even further ahead, please be sure to bring cash.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone that went through The 2017 girls ECNL to girls DA saga with my oldest the girls ECNL to GA drama is starting to feel exactly the same. The big difference with GA is the change is slow motion compared to before. I'm positive it's because there's no "free soccer" incentive with GA.

If a group of top ECNL clubs switch to GA as a group ECNL is over. That was the "last straw" so to speak when clubs started going to DA in mass.

ECNL could still end this whole thing if they just add Tophat, Lou Fusz, City & maybe cup/nefc.

It makes you wonder who in ECNL pissed off Tophat so much?

Or maybe it was the other way around.

Either way if Tophat maintains the current course ECNL is in trouble.

You’re saying that ECNL wants tophat back, but Tophat refuses every year?

I'm saying that ECNL needs Tophat right now if they want to stop GA momentum.

Either Tophat doesn't want to join girls ECNL or girls ECNL won't let them in. It's one or the other.

My bet is girls Tophat doesn't want to play in ECNL.

wrong. other Atlanta clubs have blocked their move back to ECNL

So you're saying that local Atlanta Clubs have more power than ECNL leadership?

Come on, you can see why this doesn't make sense.

maybe to to you but there are 4 ecnl clubs in the Atlanta area with 5 ecnl teams (Concorde has 2 ecnl). politics always rules out and old battles have never healed. you don't understand how the other clubs loathe Tophat. it just is what it is. this has been going on for a very long time, way before ECNL ever started.

Good to see that ECNL will "cut off their nose to spite their face"

ECNL’s future is based on Tophat?

No point for Tophat to go ECNL. Especially now. Maybe 4-5 years ago when DA collapsed but they’re fine. Same with all the other top end clubs in GA. It’s ok to have good clubs in different leagues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here's reality weather you want to see it or not.

Girls youth soccer Tier 1: Top 45 ECNL & Top 10 GA
Tier 2: ECNL 46 on down & GA 11 to 40
Tier 3: ECNL RL & GA 40 on down
Tier 4: every other club
Tier 5: Rec

problem is everyone wants to run around telling the world how great their daughter and her team is and lay claim to playing in a national league. In reality only a small percentage of players outside Tier 1 will ever play beyond high school. But these money machine clubs will never tell you reality. Just keep lining up with your club fees in hand and don't forget the extra one on one trainings to get you even further ahead, please be sure to bring cash.

ECNL RL is not that high ... not a chance. USYS teams crush ECNL RL teams all the time. Maybe 5 to 10 ECNL RL teams are dangerous

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:here's reality weather you want to see it or not.

Girls youth soccer Tier 1: Top 45 ECNL & Top 10 GA
Tier 2: ECNL 46 on down & GA 11 to 40
Tier 3: ECNL RL & GA 40 on down
Tier 4: every other club
Tier 5: Rec

problem is everyone wants to run around telling the world how great their daughter and her team is and lay claim to playing in a national league. In reality only a small percentage of players outside Tier 1 will ever play beyond high school. But these money machine clubs will never tell you reality. Just keep lining up with your club fees in hand and don't forget the extra one on one trainings to get you even further ahead, please be sure to bring cash.

ECNL RL is not that high ... not a chance. USYS teams crush ECNL RL teams all the time. Maybe 5 to 10 ECNL RL teams are dangerous

Huh? He was basically saying they are barely above "any random non-rec team", so I'm not sure it's too high of a spot for them....

[Anonymous]

GA flipped another ECNL club today. Kings Hammer from Cincinnati.