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Anonymous wrote:Has Justin been complained about in about of his past gigs?
Seems like his other co-stars really liked him.
Blake on the other hand. . .
I have never read anything bad about him. He seems to be friends with his past co-stars.
Except that podcaster. Oops.
She hasn’t accused him of any misbehavior with her.
She also hasn't said a word in support or even said "I didn't experience any inappropriate behavior in working with him." It's been weeks and Baldoni could definitely use the backup. This is someone who worked in very close proximity to him for several years. I find that odd.
Especially since there's a third host, Jamey Heath, who is also mentioned in Lively's complaint (he was a co-producer on It Ends With Us and the one Lively accuses of entering the makeup trailer while she was topless and having body makeup applied and insisting on having a conversation with her in that state).
One potential reason for her silence could be that she is a potential witness in both Lively's lawsuit and any potential lawsuit Baldoni might file against Lively. I wonder of Baldoni or Heath ever talked about Lively or what happened on the set with Plank.
More realistically, it’s a terrible optic in 2025 for someone whose entire brand is feminism to say she doesn’t believe a fellow woman. She pulled back from the podcast a few months ago, which says to me she wasn’t sure what to do, not that she was sure he was some creep. Liz Plank was in an impossible situation, and in fact very few people are going to publicly support anyone who is accused of what he’s been accused of. He’s maybe got his mom.
This. No one wants to stand up and defend someone accused of harassment in today’s woke environment. I personally don’t think woody Allen is a pedophile, but you can bet I’m not going to pronounce that in many of my female social circles. Why would I want the headache?
1) Gina Rodriguez, Baldoni's costar on Jane the Virgin, has defended him. So it's not true that "no one" will defend someone accused of harassment. He's also been defended by Megyn Kelly (see the clips posted earlier in this thread).
2) I don't know if Woody Allen meets the strict definition of a pedophile since I don't know exactly what he's done, but the reason I'd never defend him in any situation is because even if he's not technically a pedo, is obviously very gross and pervy. He married his step-daughter. He once cast himself opposite a teenage Mariel Hemingway (in Manhattan) and then tried to seduce her, asking her if she'd go to Paris with him and other weird, gross, inappropriate things. And despite all this, lots of people in Hollywood defend him, or at least are willing to work with him without commenting on his grossness in this respect.
So it's not exactly black and white, is it?
I haven’t heard anything from Gina since the lawsuit. In this type of situation, you really can’t say, “well he never harassed me.” That doesn’t even matter—so people are just going to keep their mouth shut. And who can even blame them? People freak out if you defend someone accused of a crime. Look at how angry people are at Ashton Kutcher? They freaking hate him for standing by his friend.
Is Ashton a good example? Danny Masterson was a convicted rapist. So they weren't defending him against mere allegations. They were defending him after Masterson was convicted. That's why there was such a strong reaction. I think you'd see that if any celebrity decided to write a "character letter" for someone convicted of a violent crime. It's very extreme. And then Ashton handled it really weirdly (those apology videos he and Mila did were strange) and there's the whole Scientology angle. That was abnormal.
There are lots of examples of people standing up for celeb friends when they are in hot water for even pretty awful behavior. Jodi Foster stood by Mel Gibson through all his crap. Lorne Michaels, Tina Fey, and others have supported Alec Baldwin through a bunch of stuff. Plenty of people continue to work with and defend Woody Allen. There are others.
Maybe Baldoni's problem is that he's not famous or talented enough. But the total lack of support from anyone who has worked with him also makes you wonder if maybe people aren't totally surprised. His only public defenders are his lawyer and people who support his lawyer (like Megyn Kelly). No one else in Hollywood seems eager to stand up for him or even to say "well let's wait until we know more."
They would have to be total morons to stand up for him. Not necessarily because he's guilty (I have no opinion on that), but because it would be a VERY bad look to support a man v. a woman with those types of claims looming. So people are keeping quiet. Note that other people who worked with Lively like Anna Kendrick could support her publicly, and they don't. So I don't think this is meaningful to the case or indicates anything.
I don't know why you are fixated on Anna Kendrick. A lot of people who have worked with Lively in the past have spoken up in support of her. Actors, directors, people who have worked with her on her product branding. I don't know why apparently Anna Kendrick is the arbiter here (side note: I find both Anna Kendrick AND Blake Lively very annoying and it doesn't surprise me they wouldn't get along on set because they both have Main Character Syndrome, but that's not really dispositive on whether or not Lively was sexually harassed by Justin Baldoni).
No one is speaking up for Justin. It is odd that people have been pretty vocal in support of Lively (including people from this movie) but that no one has spoken up for Justin. So it's not that everyone is staying quiet and waiting it out. It's that among the people who know these individuals the best, Lively's friends and colleagues are supporting her and Justin's are staying mum.
Because people who speak up for him would be canceled if it turns out he did do something wrong—and really even if he didn’t. Nobody’s going to fault these women for supporting Blake. It’s just not the same at all.
Right, which is why people won't speak up if they think there's a chance the allegations are true. If what she was alleging in her complaint was just totally out of character for him or didn't jibe at all with other coworkers' experiences with him, I do think they would speak up if only to say "this doesn't sound like the Justin I know." I suspect this DOES sound like the Justin they know, even if this same behavior didn't become harassing in their dealings with him because maybe his behavior wasn't unwelcome in that setting but it was harassing on this particular set. And this ties their hands because they can't honestly say "I don't recognize the person described here" but they also can't defend this behavior because when you read it in the complaint it sounds very bad.
I go back to my previous assessment that he is a somewhat green director who is unprofessional and did not understand that his behavior was crossing lines and lacked the self-awareness to rein it in. It also sounds like everyone at Wayfarer might have egged each other on and that helped to validate their behavior even as Lively and, it sounds like, other members of the cast, were increasingly bothered by it.
It’s pretty darn rare to have a single complainant sexual harassment case.
Not true at all. Most sexual harassment cases are single complainant.
You only hear about the ones with a bunch of victims because as a culture we are extremely dismissive of women who lodge these types of complaints and only start to believe them if it happens to a bunch of women who can corroborate each other's stories.
I was sexually harassed at work (clearcut case, there was unwanted sexual touching, it happened with witnesses, and the person who did it admitted it) and I chose not to sue because I did not want to deal with the way my story would have been treated in court -- they would introduced my mental health issues (I have a history of depression), painted me as widely disliked at the company (this was true, a lot of people didn't like me, this was what made me such an easy mark for harassment), and claimed I was lying. They also would have said "none of the other women at this company have these issues, so what makes you so special?" I don't think I could have taken it. It wasn't worth whatever I might have recovered financially. And it would have dragged out for a long time.
My attorney was pretty blunt about this because the company didn't have deep pockets and she didn't think I'd get a huge settlement, so if I was going to do it, I'd need to feel like the abuse I was definitely going to encounter in that process was worth it. I also didn't have a great support system at the time, which concerned her. Bringing a sexual harassment claim requires a lot of fortitude. I had chronic depression, very little family and only a few friends, and had just left my job.
My story is not uncommon. I've met many others like me in support groups.
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