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ECNL moving to school year part 2
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Anonymous
Not entirely true. I think it has more to do with national play. People have already commented that MLS2 is going SY (heresy, but most have commented this to be the case), so all signs indicate MLS will go SY, but all speculation. It wouldnt make any sense for MLS and MLS2 to have two different sets of rules. |
Anonymous
There are a lot of clubs (Bavarian, SC Wave, Chicago Fire, Michigan wolves, Sockers, Lous Fusz ...) having their 1st teams at MLSN1 and their 2nd teams at MLSN2. For instance, how could Bavarian have a BY team for MLSN1 and a SY team for MLSN2? Very difficult to organize. |
Anonymous
MLSN can still advertise their players using BY, not that they regularly sell players to international leagues. You don’t need a BY cutoff league to do that. Similarly, in the rare instances MLSN teams play international, they can shuffle the roster a bit accordingly, probably Biobanding the hell of it as well to get all the advantage they can 
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Anonymous
For sure. And all of those clubs will have their U8-12 programs in SY. And their entire girls sides (if they have them) in SY. Plus their 3rd/4th teams in SY. And all of the tournaments in showcases that are not MLSN in SY. Would seem pretty problematic to stay BY... |
Anonymous
| its interesting listening to ECNL parents talk about what MLS will do. |
Anonymous
If you are at an mlsnext club, talk to your DOC or coach. Nothing official yet, but the dialogue has definitely changed from last spring. |
Anonymous
MLSN Academies do not care about this at all, they have never sold a player internationally or placed one on a national team that wasn't playing up an age group or 2 anyway. Every professional academy team in the world that exists only exists for the 1 or 2 players on the team that will likely go pro, and they are often on the younger end of the spectrum, the rest of them are just there because those couple of kids need teams to play with and leagues to play in to develop. |
Anonymous
Agree 100%. |
Anonymous
I'm a MLS Next Academy dad (my son is October U14, starter, top scorer of the team, but struggling with January defenders over 6 feet tall). If MLS Next Academy doesn't move to SY, next season I will be an ECNL dad. 
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Anonymous
100% and this is something the academy parents do not want to acknowledge, but instead love to crap on p2p as if the average player is light years different in academy and will be going pro any day. Plenty of tier 1 players turn down academy offers because of family logistics and/or they do not want to be outright owned by MLS. |
Anonymous
Hahaha yea right |
Anonymous
Age cutoffs and groupings for youth leagues vary around the world. England uses academic cutoff (Aug 31). Spain uses calendar year but groups players in two year cycles (U10, U12, U14, U16, U18). Brazil has calendar year but it mostly aligns with the academic year that runs from February - December. (southern hemisphere). Brazil also has the 2 year cycles (U7, U9, etc.). Argentina has a calendar year. FIFA youth international competitions use calendar year. There is no "one-size-fits-all solution". The only thing that has been proven consistent by academic research throughout is that relative age effect is real. For reference: FIFA U-20 World Cup Argentina (6 titles) Brazil (5 titles) Portugal (2 titles) FIFA U-17 World Cup Nigeria (5 titles) Brazil (4 titles) Ghana (2 titles) |
Anonymous
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How many MLSNext players actually end up in MLS? Are the percentages wildly different from the actual academy teams and the P2P MLSN teams? Do MSLNext players or the academy players end up in college as a backup plan or do they just fade away after so many years?
I'm actually curious about this, not trying to be a troll. My kid is on the girls side, so no idea on the boys side. The reason for asking is it seems the age group change issues on this thread have trended to be more of a boys issue or the more heated posters are on the boys side...but if the % of players moving to actual MLS is so small for anyone other than the actual teams that are under MLS, then what is the point of playing in MLSN, especially if you are at a perceived disadvantage due to birth month? |
Anonymous
Right, and unfortunately there is no way of solving the RAE problem. With SY the damage goes to January-July kids, with BY it goes to September-December kids. It's a matter of luck, what month a kid is born, and what cutoff is implemented at the country that kid lives. |
Anonymous
I think the discussion is more heated NOW (not in the past) at the boys side because the girls scenario is already clear: all the girls will play SY. However on the boys side MLS Next is still undecided, so for many parents the choice between ECNL/MLSN1-2 is still open, depending on what age system is better for each kid. MLS Next 1-2 has a great level of competition, also ECNL, depending on the zone you live ... so they are comparable leagues. Next season, the key factor to decide club or team will be what system By/SY benefits more to your own kid. |