Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fact: Ford could not put together a comprehensive enough story with enough verifiable fact. She accused a man publicly of attempted rape, which resulted in absolute crucification in the media. He then had to come out and not only defend himself, but protect his family from the fallout. And he did just that. I would say he's not the right man for the job had he NOT come out swinging.

No, that’s your opinion. Ford’s story was fine. Brett isn’t a suitable judge. Frankly he sounded like he needed intensive therapy. He just wants power and glory. Giving him the benefit of he doubt, that he’s mean drunk who doesn’t remember assaulting any women, he had to know how much he drank (drinks?). If he had any sense at all, he would have declined to nom. But he’s a power hungry freak.

And that’s your opinion (absent of any facts, of course).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still worried about manchin and collins.

Flake and murkowski, hopefully will vote no.

Manchin (D-West Virginia) is probably going to be a yes. He is in a contested battle for his seat in November.

Manchin is a definite yes. K only needs one more from Collins, Flake, Murkowski and Heitkemp. The goose is cooked.

Manchin is a possible No.

[Anonymous]

What's this about the 30 hours of debate? Does that mean they start debating today and vote tomorrow, or start the debate tomorrow and vote Sarurday?

Either way, more circus.

[Anonymous]

Kavanaugh has no business being on the SCOTUS. He will be tainted forever and should be impeached as soon as possible.

[Anonymous]

If Kavanaugh is voted down, there will be a Red Wave the likes of which you've never seen. That means Rs will pick up more sears and have a new vote in January. Kavanaugh is in either way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:National council of churches asks for Kavanaugh's nomination to be withdrawn https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/national-council-of-churches-calls-for-kavanaughs-nomination-to-be-withdrawn/ar-BBNTuVp?ocid=spartandhp

WOAH

Frankly, that's more significant than the Bar Association's disavowal.

Only if you are religious. I couldn’t care what they think.

My point is that it should matter to many people in Red states. It should give them pause. But you're right. Republicans who voted for DJT won't care. They have sold their souls to a fast talking huckster to get rid of health care for millions and get tax cuts for the rich. Our country is lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has no business being on the SCOTUS. He will be tainted forever and should be impeached as soon as possible.

No grounds for imoeachment. And lying about slang terms for farting? Is that what you're hanging your hat on?

[Anonymous]

Murkowski and Collins are a yes, barring a bombshell in the FBI report. There are none

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dem here. I'm on the fence about whether I hope Kavanaugh isn't confirmed which means Republicans are energized and Dems lose (polls now pointing at this plus Repubs historically vote in higher numbers than Dems in midterms) or he is confirmed, energizing Dems for midterms even though we get stuck with decades of this temperamentally unfit alcoholic abuser on the SCOTUS. Given his behavior he shouldn't but it's d@mned if you do and if you don't.

I agree. I am tormented by this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murkowski and Collins are a yes, barring a bombshell in the FBI report. There are none

Given Judge's very long interview with the FBI, this seems unlikely. Obviously many in the Senate won't care what the report says, one way or the other, but that doesn't mean there are no bombshells.

[Anonymous]

I'm a republican. It appears to be a he/said she /said many years after the fact, with no "smoking gun"? I don't think an unsubstantiated allegation should bring any candidate down, Dem or Rep. However, I also did not like his blustery, whiny demeanor. I would say "next". There are plenty of others who can show a history of fantastic jurosprudence and keep their cool when the arrows start flying, as they will. We are a nation of 350 mlion. There's more than one great potential candidate. What do republicans feel they will lose by going to the next?

[Anonymous]

Here is a searing indictment of the Republican party as having parted ways with true conservatism -- defined by words like responsibility, stoicism, self-control, frugality, fidelity, decorum, honor, character, independence, and integrity -- by a conservative who left the party after the 2016 election. He says Kavanaugh is no true conservative either.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/republican-party-conservative/571747/

The GOP threw frugality and fiscal responsibility away long ago, initially in the Reagan years, but now on a stunning scale involving trillion-dollar deficits as far as can be forecast. It abandoned most of its beliefs in fidelity and character when it embraced a liar, cheat, and philanderer as its nominee and then as president. But something else snapped this week.

Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s judicial philosophy as expressed in various statements and conclusions was, for the most part, pretty standard conservative fare, save for one telltale element: his ascription of very high levels of immunity and discretion to the executive. In this respect, what passes today for conservatism is anything but. Where traditionally conservatives have wanted “ambition to check ambition,” as Alexander Hamilton put it, Republicans are now executive-branch kinds of people. It is not surprising that Kavanaugh himself worked at a high level in a Republican White House. The disdain of many contemporary Republicans for congressional power and prerogative makes them indistinguishable from liberals who (as recently as the Obama years) turned to sweeping uses of executive power to circumvent a balky House of Representatives and Senate.

It was, however, in the epic clash over the testimony of Christine Blasey Ford that the collapse of conservatism in the Republican Party became most evident. Eleven men, most of them old, hid behind a female prosecutor wheeled in from Arizona, because they could not, apparently, trust themselves to treat a victim of sexual assault with consideration and respect. So much for courage. Their anger at Democratic shenanigans was understandable, but virtually without exception. When they did summon up the nerve to speak (during Kavanaugh’s turn), their questions consisted almost exclusively of partisan baying at the opposition. Genuine conservatives might have snarled initially, but would have, out of regard for the truth, tried to figure out exactly what happened to Ford 35 years ago, and whether the character of the man before them was what it was said to be.

Perhaps the collapse of modern conservatism came out most clearly in Kavanaugh’s own testimony—its self-pity, its hysteria, its conjuring up of conspiracies, its vindictiveness. He and his family had no doubt suffered agonies. But if we expect steely resolve from a police officer confronting a knife-wielding assailant, or disciplined courage from a firefighter rushing into a burning house, we should expect stoic self-control and calm from a conservative judge, even if his heart is being eaten out. No one watching those proceedings could imagine that a Democrat standing before this judge’s bench in the future would get a fair hearing. This was not the conservative temperament on display. It was, rather, personalized grievance politics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has no business being on the SCOTUS. He will be tainted forever and should be impeached as soon as possible.

No grounds for imoeachment. And lying about slang terms for farting? Is that what you're hanging your hat on?

He’s an entitled douchebag who lied about being a drunk. If I drank that much I would not have gotten my clearance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murkowski and Collins are a yes, barring a bombshell in the FBI report. There are none

Cowards both and slamming the door on women's voices! Disgracefu!

[Anonymous]

Manchin.....

West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin (D) said in a new interview that he remains undecided about Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court, but bashed the judge's confirmation process as a "circus."

The key swing vote Democrat told Al Jazeera that he is looking at Kavanaugh's adult life and time in the judiciary. He added that he would decide after viewing the FBI's supplemental background investigation into the allegations of sexual assault against the judge whether the probe's scope was sufficient. Kavanaugh has denied the allegations leveled against him by three women.

"This has been horrible. It's another circus," Manchin said, referring to the confirmation process.


"I am looking at the gentleman as an adult from 22 to 53, 31 years of professional service. I am looking at him as a father," the senator added. "As a person in a community, how he interacts with his community. I am trying to put the human side to it."

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409831-manchin-on-kavanaugh-decision-im-trying-to-put-the-human-side-to-it