Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Either way:

Winners:
Dem turnout
GOP turnout
#MeToo
Trump (stood by establishment Republican)
Conservatives (will ram someone thru, bet on it)
Dr Ford (hero)

Losers:
Senate
Mark Judge
Liberals (see above)
House GOP in midterms

On the fence:
Brett Kavanaugh






Outside possibility the Senate could turn, depending on what happens over the next week. IMO, if the FBI investigation isn't complete and the GOP Senate rams this through, the backlash will be far-reaching. The American public knows when it is being had.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Ford's story has changed. She has changed the # of people involved since she told the therapist. She told the therapist that she was in her "late teens." She changed the statement from her polygraph from early '80s to '80's and other small changes which go back to what she told the therapist.

In a case like this, where a public takedown of a man's reputation and whole career is being put in jeopardy, it seems to me that we need to know more about the accuser. Even the part of the Safeway and Mark Judge is odd --did she read Judge's book, maybe--apparently, it may tell us when he worked there and the lawyers and Ford know this. She seemed quite insistent that they look that part up. And, when did we first hear about Judge and the Safeway? Was it before or after she hired the lawyers?

Here is a twitter site that has a thread in it that lays it all out pretty well. There are more holes in Ford's story than I had caught. It seems to me that if Kavanaugh is going to be derailed over this, that the therapist notes should be available to the FBI.

https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland?lang=en


There aren’t holes. Yes, I read this, thanks for linking.

The speculation that Ford read Judge’s book to make up the Safeway detail is just a fever dream of conservatives.


There are definitely holes. She goes from attack in her late teens, mid 1980s, and four boys as attackers in her therapist notes to 2 boy attackers, early 1980s then to 1982 specifically, somehow remembering she wasn't driving at the time though she can't remember how she got to and from the party. She can claim the therapist's notes are wrong all she wants, but they aren't corroborating evidence of a summer 1982 attack by 2 boys.


It’s always pleasant to deal with a liar.

You were not present for this therapy session. Your undignified need to paint Ford as a liar has you lying, and staring as fact that Ford misstated something as opposed to her therapist making an error in the notes. Ford’s story has remained remarkably consistent. And here you sit on a Sunday morning, telling lies.

For me, Kavanaugh’s behavior regarding the Miranda memos and his testimony about it weeks ago is fully disqualifying. But I don’t hate him, and I’m not spreading lies about him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Either way:

Winners:
Dem turnout
GOP turnout
#MeToo
Trump (stood by establishment Republican)
Conservatives (will ram someone thru, bet on it)
Dr Ford (hero)

Losers:
Senate
Mark Judge
Liberals (see above)
House GOP in midterms

On the fence:
Brett Kavanaugh






Outside possibility the Senate could turn, depending on what happens over the next week. IMO, if the FBI investigation isn't complete and the GOP Senate rams this through, the backlash will be far-reaching. The American public knows when it is being had.


Yes Captain Obvious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ford's story has changed. She has changed the # of people involved since she told the therapist. She told the therapist that she was in her "late teens." She changed the statement from her polygraph from early '80s to '80's and other small changes which go back to what she told the therapist.

In a case like this, where a public takedown of a man's reputation and whole career is being put in jeopardy, it seems to me that we need to know more about the accuser. Even the part of the Safeway and Mark Judge is odd --did she read Judge's book, maybe--apparently, it may tell us when he worked there and the lawyers and Ford know this. She seemed quite insistent that they look that part up. And, when did we first hear about Judge and the Safeway? Was it before or after she hired the lawyers?

Here is a twitter site that has a thread in it that lays it all out pretty well. There are more holes in Ford's story than I had caught. It seems to me that if Kavanaugh is going to be derailed over this, that the therapist notes should be available to the FBI.

https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland?lang=en


There aren’t holes. Yes, I read this, thanks for linking.

The speculation that Ford read Judge’s book to make up the Safeway detail is just a fever dream of conservatives.


There are definitely holes. She goes from attack in her late teens, mid 1980s, and four boys as attackers in her therapist notes to 2 boy attackers, early 1980s then to 1982 specifically, somehow remembering she wasn't driving at the time though she can't remember how she got to and from the party. She can claim the therapist's notes are wrong all she wants, but they aren't corroborating evidence of a summer 1982 attack by 2 boys.


Which is why Ford didn't release them to the Committee for the truth of the matter.

There really aren't "holes" and you know it. Instead let's focus on Kavanaugh's testimony, which was unhinged and perjurious. And utterly disqualifying for someone who's going to sit on the Supreme Court.

Matt Damon nailed it last night, and the worst part is about 80% of his lines were from the actual testimony.

https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/1046246103367241730
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that she is asking for the FBI investigation while he refused to ask for one should tell people everything they need to know


Yup.


Call me old fashioned, but I’m going to wait for the conclusion of the investigation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ford's story has changed. She has changed the # of people involved since she told the therapist. She told the therapist that she was in her "late teens." She changed the statement from her polygraph from early '80s to '80's and other small changes which go back to what she told the therapist.

In a case like this, where a public takedown of a man's reputation and whole career is being put in jeopardy, it seems to me that we need to know more about the accuser. Even the part of the Safeway and Mark Judge is odd --did she read Judge's book, maybe--apparently, it may tell us when he worked there and the lawyers and Ford know this. She seemed quite insistent that they look that part up. And, when did we first hear about Judge and the Safeway? Was it before or after she hired the lawyers?

Here is a twitter site that has a thread in it that lays it all out pretty well. There are more holes in Ford's story than I had caught. It seems to me that if Kavanaugh is going to be derailed over this, that the therapist notes should be available to the FBI.

https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland?lang=en


There aren’t holes. Yes, I read this, thanks for linking.

The speculation that Ford read Judge’s book to make up the Safeway detail is just a fever dream of conservatives.


There are definitely holes. She goes from attack in her late teens, mid 1980s, and four boys as attackers in her therapist notes to 2 boy attackers, early 1980s then to 1982 specifically, somehow remembering she wasn't driving at the time though she can't remember how she got to and from the party. She can claim the therapist's notes are wrong all she wants, but they aren't corroborating evidence of a summer 1982 attack by 2 boys.


Which is why Ford didn't release them to the Committee for the truth of the matter.

There really aren't "holes" and you know it. Instead let's focus on Kavanaugh's testimony, which was unhinged and perjurious. And utterly disqualifying for someone who's going to sit on the Supreme Court.

Matt Damon nailed it last night, and the worst part is about 80% of his lines were from the actual testimony.

https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/1046246103367241730


It was a plodding performance from the actor, but a necessary one.
Anonymous
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying

Reposting this from the “jumping the shark” thread. Very worth reading.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:A a parent, I'd try to ensure my kids didn't interact too much with Kavanaugh; any sleepovers should be at my home, and I wouldn't let my kids drive with him
There's way too much alcohol in all these stories for me to be comfortable


And already, his life has been permanently altered. Nice.

Nothing has happened to his life. This will all be old news in a couple of weeks and he will be on the SCOTUS.


B.S. Whether he is or isn't confirmed, his life will never be the same. Thanks in large part to people like you.


I’m sorry but so what? Statistically speaking, she’s probably telling the damn truth.


I could accuse your husband or boyfriend of rape and statistically speaking, I'm probably telling the damn truth....



Will you take a polygraph? Will you name others who were present at the time? Will you ask the FBI to investigate it?


Do you mean a privately administered polygraph done by someone my attorney chooses? If the others present don't recall the event or time in question, will you take my word over theirs?


No need for this false dichotomy. If one person recalls something and another doesn't, it does not mean that one must be lying. It simply means one person remembers and the other one does not.


If both versions are deemed credible, the matter is then in equipoise. If that’s the case, then he might be able to get to 50 plus 1. But I think he’s sunk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ford's story has changed. She has changed the # of people involved since she told the therapist. She told the therapist that she was in her "late teens." She changed the statement from her polygraph from early '80s to '80's and other small changes which go back to what she told the therapist.

In a case like this, where a public takedown of a man's reputation and whole career is being put in jeopardy, it seems to me that we need to know more about the accuser. Even the part of the Safeway and Mark Judge is odd --did she read Judge's book, maybe--apparently, it may tell us when he worked there and the lawyers and Ford know this. She seemed quite insistent that they look that part up. And, when did we first hear about Judge and the Safeway? Was it before or after she hired the lawyers?

Here is a twitter site that has a thread in it that lays it all out pretty well. There are more holes in Ford's story than I had caught. It seems to me that if Kavanaugh is going to be derailed over this, that the therapist notes should be available to the FBI.

https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland?lang=en


There aren’t holes. Yes, I read this, thanks for linking.

The speculation that Ford read Judge’s book to make up the Safeway detail is just a fever dream of conservatives.


There are definitely holes. She goes from attack in her late teens, mid 1980s, and four boys as attackers in her therapist notes to 2 boy attackers, early 1980s then to 1982 specifically, somehow remembering she wasn't driving at the time though she can't remember how she got to and from the party. She can claim the therapist's notes are wrong all she wants, but they aren't corroborating evidence of a summer 1982 attack by 2 boys.


Which is why Ford didn't release them to the Committee for the truth of the matter.

There really aren't "holes" and you know it. Instead let's focus on Kavanaugh's testimony, which was unhinged and perjurious. And utterly disqualifying for someone who's going to sit on the Supreme Court.

Matt Damon nailed it last night, and the worst part is about 80% of his lines were from the actual testimony.

https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/1046246103367241730


It was a plodding performance from the actor, but a necessary one.

Good, now maybe he can go lecture him slimy, fratty BFF on how to treat women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ford's story has changed. She has changed the # of people involved since she told the therapist. She told the therapist that she was in her "late teens." She changed the statement from her polygraph from early '80s to '80's and other small changes which go back to what she told the therapist.

In a case like this, where a public takedown of a man's reputation and whole career is being put in jeopardy, it seems to me that we need to know more about the accuser. Even the part of the Safeway and Mark Judge is odd --did she read Judge's book, maybe--apparently, it may tell us when he worked there and the lawyers and Ford know this. She seemed quite insistent that they look that part up. And, when did we first hear about Judge and the Safeway? Was it before or after she hired the lawyers?

Here is a twitter site that has a thread in it that lays it all out pretty well. There are more holes in Ford's story than I had caught. It seems to me that if Kavanaugh is going to be derailed over this, that the therapist notes should be available to the FBI.

https://twitter.com/profmjcleveland?lang=en


There aren’t holes. Yes, I read this, thanks for linking.

The speculation that Ford read Judge’s book to make up the Safeway detail is just a fever dream of conservatives.


There are definitely holes. She goes from attack in her late teens, mid 1980s, and four boys as attackers in her therapist notes to 2 boy attackers, early 1980s then to 1982 specifically, somehow remembering she wasn't driving at the time though she can't remember how she got to and from the party. She can claim the therapist's notes are wrong all she wants, but they aren't corroborating evidence of a summer 1982 attack by 2 boys.


It’s always pleasant to deal with a liar.

You were not present for this therapy session. Your undignified need to paint Ford as a liar has you lying, and staring as fact that Ford misstated something as opposed to her therapist making an error in the notes.
Ford’s story has remained remarkably consistent. And here you sit on a Sunday morning, telling lies.

For me, Kavanaugh’s behavior regarding the Miranda memos and his testimony about it weeks ago is fully disqualifying. But I don’t hate him, and I’m not spreading lies about him.


Her therapist's notes don't corroborate her claim of a 1982 attack by 2 boys. Period.
Anonymous
Anyone notice how Kavanaugh lives in a renovated house in Chevy Chase in a neighborhood that people with his HHI can’t afford? But it’s a neighborhood where other Supreme Court justices, Yalies, journalists and other power players live. He knows what he wants and is clawing to get it. That’s not really what Supreme Court justices do - there’s not supposed to be a career path to the highest court.
Anonymous
Lots of my neighbors can't afford to live here. They tell me they have generous parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone notice how Kavanaugh lives in a renovated house in Chevy Chase in a neighborhood that people with his HHI can’t afford? But it’s a neighborhood where other Supreme Court justices, Yalies, journalists and other power players live. He knows what he wants and is clawing to get it. That’s not really what Supreme Court justices do - there’s not supposed to be a career path to the highest court.


FYI - we have a similar HHI and we can’t afford our $650,000 house , never mind a 1.3 million dollar house. And we have no law school debts even.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The fact that she is asking for the FBI investigation while he refused to ask for one should tell people everything they need to know


Yup.


Call me old fashioned, but I’m going to wait for the conclusion of the investigation.


The sham investigation the White House is trying to force, or the real one, that should take place?
Anonymous
Watch Matt Damon as Kavanaugh on the SNL cold open last night. Epic!

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/30/653062763/matt-damon-is-a-sniffing-shouting-brett-kavanaugh-on-snl-season-premiere

"I'm an optimist. I'm a keg is half full kind of guy."
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