Andy Ngo, notorious racial agitator, caught in Portland protest

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: DP. Let’s look at the Jacobin, shall we?

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jacobin/


You left out this part: “Overall, we rate Jacobin Magazine, Left Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that always favor the Democratic Socialist Left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information and a clean fact check record.”

Whereas, of Post Millennial, they say: “Overall, we rate The Post Millennial Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed in reporting due to publishing unsubstantiated claims and having several failed fact checks.”

I’m not the PP who linked to Jacobin and I don’t read it because Democratic Socialists largely annoy me. But if you think you’ve got a real winning argument here, you don’t. Ngo is provocateur. If he is representative of your “media figures,” you best head back into the barn and think some because you are backing the wrong horse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: DP. Let’s look at the Jacobin, shall we?

LEFT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jacobin/


You left out this part: “Overall, we rate Jacobin Magazine, Left Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that always favor the Democratic Socialist Left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information and a clean fact check record.”

Whereas, of Post Millennial, they say: “Overall, we rate The Post Millennial Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed in reporting due to publishing unsubstantiated claims and having several failed fact checks.”

I’m not the PP who linked to Jacobin and I don’t read it because Democratic Socialists largely annoy me. But if you think you’ve got a real winning argument here, you don’t. Ngo is provocateur. If he is representative of your “media figures,” you best head back into the barn and think some because you are backing the wrong horse.


You are totally off the deep end. I am the PP who posted the Jacobin link. And I never made any claims that it was unbiased.

Meanwhile here you are making exaggerated and totally false claims that it was touted as unbiased and in the hours I've been away from the board I see you have been busy making post after post after post hysterically trying to take down Jacobin (you seem a bit unhinged in that), when I haven't even mentioned it once since my first post.

But where you DID fail is in that you have done exactly jack shit where it comes to actually addressing or debunking the actual content of the article.

I guess when you can't go after the substance you just try and shoot the messenger.
Anonymous
^ that response was referring to "Lets look at Jacobin poster shall we"
Anonymous
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"FAKE NEWS! Everyone is lying about Andy Ngo! The left hates him because he tells the truth!"


LOL. Amazing how deeply the RWNJs are wrapped up in their delusions. The whole world is lying and only Andy Ngo tells the truth. Yep sure, and the earth is flat, moon landings were faked and Elvis is still alive and married to the Sasquatch too.

I don't think the whole world is lying. I think the left is so wrapped up in it's own propaganda bubble, it can't even acknowledge any information coming from outside the bubble. I'm not just about Ngo here. I'm talking about anyone who doesn't 100% with 100% of the left's standard narrative.


THIS ^^^. The left is so blind to their OWN propaganda and lies. Look at all these nitwits posting leftist Twitter posts and acting as if because some rando liberal activist says something, it must be true. They are the very epitome of hypocrites. At least Andy Ngo is calling out antifa thugs. I can’t for the life of me imagine why anyone would object to that, unless of course... oh, wait...


But why doesn't Andy Ngo call out right wing thugs like the violent Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys terrorists that he knows so well?

If he isn't peddling an agenda then why won't he report on them?

If he isn't biased then why won't he report on them?

Please, no more lame nonsense. The answer is obvious and has already been stated here by many: Andy Ngo is a provocateur and a propagandist. He IS peddling an agenda. He IS biased. And he IS DISHONEST.
Anonymous
Not to mention, triggered to the point of rabid at the mere mention of a democratic-socialist leaning media source like Jacobin - even though it's rated as being more factual than the far right wing sites that PP clings to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3...2...1...

"FAKE NEWS! Everyone is lying about Andy Ngo! The left hates him because he tells the truth!"


LOL. Amazing how deeply the RWNJs are wrapped up in their delusions. The whole world is lying and only Andy Ngo tells the truth. Yep sure, and the earth is flat, moon landings were faked and Elvis is still alive and married to the Sasquatch too.

I don't think the whole world is lying. I think the left is so wrapped up in it's own propaganda bubble, it can't even acknowledge any information coming from outside the bubble. I'm not just about Ngo here. I'm talking about anyone who doesn't 100% with 100% of the left's standard narrative.


THIS ^^^. The left is so blind to their OWN propaganda and lies. Look at all these nitwits posting leftist Twitter posts and acting as if because some rando liberal activist says something, it must be true. They are the very epitome of hypocrites. At least Andy Ngo is calling out antifa thugs. I can’t for the life of me imagine why anyone would object to that, unless of course... oh, wait...


But why doesn't Andy Ngo call out right wing thugs like the violent Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys terrorists that he knows so well?

If he isn't peddling an agenda then why won't he report on them?

If he isn't biased then why won't he report on them?

Please, no more lame nonsense. The answer is obvious and has already been stated here by many: Andy Ngo is a provocateur and a propagandist. He IS peddling an agenda. He IS biased. And he IS DISHONEST.


And the response is the same as it was the last time you asked this question: why should he? His missions to expose and take down antifa. Period. Why don’t journalists/reporters/activists who rabidly report on Proud Boys do the same with antifa?? And why aren’t you concerned about *their* bias?

Please, no more lame nonsense indeed. I applaud anyone for exposing antifa cretins. Why don’t you?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Andy Ngo is a journalist. He is the editor-at-large of The Post Millennial.

You may not agree with him, but he is a journalist.

He also documents the arrests of those in Portland associated with Antifa. They don't like him for doing that.


The Post Millenial is 3 bloggers in their Canadian basement.


It's astounding that the right wing will whine about "Fake News MSM" yet turn to EVEN FAKER "news" like Post Millennial.

It's weird that you think Jacobin has journalists and Post Millenial doesn't. Even weirder you don't know what it means to call yourself a Jacobin.


Who said anything about Jacobin and journalism? You missed the point of the Jacobin link in the first place. Meanwhile you also ludicrously lumped Jacobin and Salon together, when they are also different kinds of animals.

You really aren't very good at any of this. Nuanced understanding is not your thing.

No, I am quite good at this. That's because I actually know the point of everything you say and I simply refuse to accept your framing. As a result, you have no idea what I am talking about(or pretend not to), but everyone who is not in a left wing bubble does.


LOL says the guy who believes the Post Millennial is reputable and honest journalism

Nope. That's why you are bad at this. I never said anything about "reputable and honest." Never gave you my opinion about Salon or Jacobin either. Not even said anything about MSM Fake News. How can you know what my point was if you only right about things I didn't say?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Andy Ngo is a journalist. He is the editor-at-large of The Post Millennial.

You may not agree with him, but he is a journalist.

He also documents the arrests of those in Portland associated with Antifa. They don't like him for doing that.


The Post Millenial is 3 bloggers in their Canadian basement.


It's astounding that the right wing will whine about "Fake News MSM" yet turn to EVEN FAKER "news" like Post Millennial.

It's weird that you think Jacobin has journalists and Post Millenial doesn't. Even weirder you don't know what it means to call yourself a Jacobin.


Who said anything about Jacobin and journalism? You missed the point of the Jacobin link in the first place. Meanwhile you also ludicrously lumped Jacobin and Salon together, when they are also different kinds of animals.

You really aren't very good at any of this. Nuanced understanding is not your thing.

No, I am quite good at this. That's because I actually know the point of everything you say and I simply refuse to accept your framing. As a result, you have no idea what I am talking about(or pretend not to), but everyone who is not in a left wing bubble does.


LOL says the guy who believes the Post Millennial is reputable and honest journalism

Nope. That's why you are bad at this. I never said anything about "reputable and honest." Never gave you my opinion about Salon or Jacobin either. Not even said anything about MSM Fake News. How can you know what my point was if you only *right about things I didn't say?

*write
Anonymous
The Denver Nuggets Were in a Portland Hotel as It Was Surrounded by a Furious Crowd Seeking Andy Ngo
Leftist demonstrators had previously tackled and punched a man who fled to the hotel for safety.

https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2021/05/30/the-denver-nuggets-were-in-a-portland-hotel-as-it-was-surrounded-by-a-furious-crowd-seeking-andy-ngo/

“The Denver Nuggets basketball team was staying in The Nines hotel in downtown Portland on Friday night when leftist activists surrounded the building in pursuit of a man they believed to be conservative author Andy Ngo, WW has learned.

That means the team was inside the hotel when the crowd pursued the man they believed to be Ngo to the concierge desk of the hotel, then pulled on the doors and confronted Nines staff in a chaotic scene. Protesters had previously tackled and punched the man, who fled to the hotel for safety.


Ngo, among the nation’s most prominent critics of Portland’s anti-fascist movement and a prolific user of Twitter—where he regularly publishes the mug shots and personal information of leftist protesters.”

What Andy Ngo is doing is legal. The mug shots are public records. The arrests happened. People regularly post the mug shots of people arrested at the Capitol, their information, where they work, their home addresses, contact their employers, etc. So basically, Ngo does to leftists who are arrested what people do to conservative/right protesters, rioters, etc, who are arrested.

Who recorded the kid in DC, a high school kid, and put his information, and that of his family, all over the internet and tv? The MSM was happy to take what a leftist “provocateur“ recorded and tried to ruin a child’s life. But adult, violent leftists who are documented to be arrested by Ngo are somehow off-limits and he’s a snitch?

Nope.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3...2...1...

"FAKE NEWS! Everyone is lying about Andy Ngo! The left hates him because he tells the truth!"


LOL. Amazing how deeply the RWNJs are wrapped up in their delusions. The whole world is lying and only Andy Ngo tells the truth. Yep sure, and the earth is flat, moon landings were faked and Elvis is still alive and married to the Sasquatch too.

I don't think the whole world is lying. I think the left is so wrapped up in it's own propaganda bubble, it can't even acknowledge any information coming from outside the bubble. I'm not just about Ngo here. I'm talking about anyone who doesn't 100% with 100% of the left's standard narrative.


THIS ^^^. The left is so blind to their OWN propaganda and lies. Look at all these nitwits posting leftist Twitter posts and acting as if because some rando liberal activist says something, it must be true. They are the very epitome of hypocrites. At least Andy Ngo is calling out antifa thugs. I can’t for the life of me imagine why anyone would object to that, unless of course... oh, wait...


But why doesn't Andy Ngo call out right wing thugs like the violent Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys terrorists that he knows so well?

If he isn't peddling an agenda then why won't he report on them?

If he isn't biased then why won't he report on them?

Please, no more lame nonsense. The answer is obvious and has already been stated here by many: Andy Ngo is a provocateur and a propagandist. He IS peddling an agenda. He IS biased. And he IS DISHONEST.


And the response is the same as it was the last time you asked this question: why should he? His missions to expose and take down antifa. Period. Why don’t journalists/reporters/activists who rabidly report on Proud Boys do the same with antifa?? And why aren’t you concerned about *their* bias?

Please, no more lame nonsense indeed. I applaud anyone for exposing antifa cretins. Why don’t you?


Oh? Do you have specific examples of journalists who "rabidly" report on Proud Boys but who have never done the same with Antifa? And in particular, ones who have made millions and sold books on said reporting?

I'll wait.

Also it's telling that you expanded that out to include "activists" - seems you are at least starting to wake up and admit that Andy Ngo is actually an activist and not a journalist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Denver Nuggets Were in a Portland Hotel as It Was Surrounded by a Furious Crowd Seeking Andy Ngo
Leftist demonstrators had previously tackled and punched a man who fled to the hotel for safety.

https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2021/05/30/the-denver-nuggets-were-in-a-portland-hotel-as-it-was-surrounded-by-a-furious-crowd-seeking-andy-ngo/

“The Denver Nuggets basketball team was staying in The Nines hotel in downtown Portland on Friday night when leftist activists surrounded the building in pursuit of a man they believed to be conservative author Andy Ngo, WW has learned.

That means the team was inside the hotel when the crowd pursued the man they believed to be Ngo to the concierge desk of the hotel, then pulled on the doors and confronted Nines staff in a chaotic scene. Protesters had previously tackled and punched the man, who fled to the hotel for safety.


Ngo, among the nation’s most prominent critics of Portland’s anti-fascist movement and a prolific user of Twitter—where he regularly publishes the mug shots and personal information of leftist protesters.”

What Andy Ngo is doing is legal. The mug shots are public records. The arrests happened. People regularly post the mug shots of people arrested at the Capitol, their information, where they work, their home addresses, contact their employers, etc. So basically, Ngo does to leftists who are arrested what people do to conservative/right protesters, rioters, etc, who are arrested.

Who recorded the kid in DC, a high school kid, and put his information, and that of his family, all over the internet and tv? The MSM was happy to take what a leftist “provocateur“ recorded and tried to ruin a child’s life. But adult, violent leftists who are documented to be arrested by Ngo are somehow off-limits and he’s a snitch?

Nope.




Who gives a crap about mug shots and arrests? They are public record. That isn't "journalism." That isn't "exposing" anyone since it's already public record.

Plus frankly I think Andy Ngo posts mug shots of every random Portland homeless person and meth head and claims they are "Antifa" too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:3...2...1...

"FAKE NEWS! Everyone is lying about Andy Ngo! The left hates him because he tells the truth!"


LOL. Amazing how deeply the RWNJs are wrapped up in their delusions. The whole world is lying and only Andy Ngo tells the truth. Yep sure, and the earth is flat, moon landings were faked and Elvis is still alive and married to the Sasquatch too.

I don't think the whole world is lying. I think the left is so wrapped up in it's own propaganda bubble, it can't even acknowledge any information coming from outside the bubble. I'm not just about Ngo here. I'm talking about anyone who doesn't 100% with 100% of the left's standard narrative.


THIS ^^^. The left is so blind to their OWN propaganda and lies. Look at all these nitwits posting leftist Twitter posts and acting as if because some rando liberal activist says something, it must be true. They are the very epitome of hypocrites. At least Andy Ngo is calling out antifa thugs. I can’t for the life of me imagine why anyone would object to that, unless of course... oh, wait...


But why doesn't Andy Ngo call out right wing thugs like the violent Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys terrorists that he knows so well?

If he isn't peddling an agenda then why won't he report on them?

If he isn't biased then why won't he report on them?

Please, no more lame nonsense. The answer is obvious and has already been stated here by many: Andy Ngo is a provocateur and a propagandist. He IS peddling an agenda. He IS biased. And he IS DISHONEST.


And the response is the same as it was the last time you asked this question: why should he? His missions to expose and take down antifa. Period. Why don’t journalists/reporters/activists who rabidly report on Proud Boys do the same with antifa?? And why aren’t you concerned about *their* bias?

Please, no more lame nonsense indeed. I applaud anyone for exposing antifa cretins. Why don’t you?


Oh? Do you have specific examples of journalists who "rabidly" report on Proud Boys but who have never done the same with Antifa? And in particular, ones who have made millions and sold books on said reporting?

I'll wait.

Also it's telling that you expanded that out to include "activists" - seems you are at least starting to wake up and admit that Andy Ngo is actually an activist and not a journalist.


The large news networks talk about the Proud Boys and report on their organization. Antifa, on the other hand, is supposedly not even an organization. It’s a myth. Nobody will even admit they exist. Andy Ngo is the only person who exposes their activities, that’s why his book went to number 1.
Anonymous
Antifa is basically rebranded anarchists. This is not new. Really, everyone should be anti-fascist, though I don’t agree with the tactics used by the anarchists. The tactics, by the way, are also not new. It wasn’t the big boogeyman, until Trump instructed everyone to be terrified. So, pardon me if I’m not shaking in my boots, waiting for the big, bad antifa to come knocking on my door.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Antifa is basically rebranded anarchists. This is not new. Really, everyone should be anti-fascist, though I don’t agree with the tactics used by the anarchists. The tactics, by the way, are also not new. It wasn’t the big boogeyman, until Trump instructed everyone to be terrified. So, pardon me if I’m not shaking in my boots, waiting for the big, bad antifa to come knocking on my door.


Yes. It's the same group that has protested the World Bank for years. Ironically they are also anti-globalists, sharing the same suspicion of the IMF/World Bank/WTO that the Trumpers do.
Anonymous
How is he a “racial agitator?” Racial? The thread title makes no sense.
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