40 yr old Kim Kardashian fails first year legal test

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:MPRE is the multistate professional responsibility exam. It's required in many states to practice, but it is completely separate from passing the bar exam. MPRE is strictly about legal ethics. A bar exam is going to test many many points of knowledge and analytical reasoning in torts, criminal law, constitutional law, property, evidence and civil procedure. Much longer exam with much greater content.

She is not going to pass the bar exam.

Maybe not the first time. The husband of the Japanese ex-princess took 3 or 4 tries before he finally passed.

Kim's got stick-to-it-iveness. She may pass it.

Also, there are some who go to law school and get their JD but never take the bar. Since she's never going to be a first year associate at some Biglaw firm, she doesn't actually need to pass the bar. She has passed her law program. And she knows how to persuade the president, which is an invaluable skill.

But she wasn’t able to persuade him because of anything she’s learned about the law, the Constitution, etc. She didn’t persuade him through carefully crafted, clever arguments, air tight logic or brilliant oratory. She was able to persuade him because she’s very famous, comes from a famous family, was married to someone famous, has a lot of fans/followers, is extremely marketable, is attractive, and had not criticized Trump publicly. That’s literally all it took. If Taylor Swift had never indicated that she wouldn’t vote for Trump, never criticized him publicly, she could approach him respectfully, ask for a meeting, and he’d be absolutely thrilled to be photographed with her. She could probably get a small concession from him.

Things like legal arguments and facts don’t persuade him. Kim didn’t need to read the law to get something out of him. All she had to do was share her bright spotlight with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MPRE is the multistate professional responsibility exam. It's required in many states to practice, but it is completely separate from passing the bar exam. MPRE is strictly about legal ethics. A bar exam is going to test many many points of knowledge and analytical reasoning in torts, criminal law, constitutional law, property, evidence and civil procedure. Much longer exam with much greater content.

She is not going to pass the bar exam.

Maybe not the first time. The husband of the Japanese ex-princess took 3 or 4 tries before he finally passed.

Kim's got stick-to-it-iveness. She may pass it.

Also, there are some who go to law school and get their JD but never take the bar. Since she's never going to be a first year associate at some Biglaw firm, she doesn't actually need to pass the bar. She has passed her law program. And she knows how to persuade the president, which is an invaluable skill.

But she wasn’t able to persuade him because of anything she’s learned about the law, the Constitution, etc. She didn’t persuade him through carefully crafted, clever arguments, air tight logic or brilliant oratory. She was able to persuade him because she’s very famous, comes from a famous family, was married to someone famous, has a lot of fans/followers, is extremely marketable, is attractive, and had not criticized Trump publicly. That’s literally all it took. If Taylor Swift had never indicated that she wouldn’t vote for Trump, never criticized him publicly, she could approach him respectfully, ask for a meeting, and he’d be absolutely thrilled to be photographed with her. She could probably get a small concession from him.

Things like legal arguments and facts don’t persuade him. Kim didn’t need to read the law to get something out of him. All she had to do was share her bright spotlight with him.

She knows more about the law now. It's not about what the president knows or doesn't know about the law, it's about her and what she will know what to ask and why

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MPRE is the multistate professional responsibility exam. It's required in many states to practice, but it is completely separate from passing the bar exam. MPRE is strictly about legal ethics. A bar exam is going to test many many points of knowledge and analytical reasoning in torts, criminal law, constitutional law, property, evidence and civil procedure. Much longer exam with much greater content.

She is not going to pass the bar exam.

Maybe not the first time. The husband of the Japanese ex-princess took 3 or 4 tries before he finally passed.

Kim's got stick-to-it-iveness. She may pass it.

Also, there are some who go to law school and get their JD but never take the bar. Since she's never going to be a first year associate at some Biglaw firm, she doesn't actually need to pass the bar. She has passed her law program. And she knows how to persuade the president, which is an invaluable skill.

But she wasn’t able to persuade him because of anything she’s learned about the law, the Constitution, etc. She didn’t persuade him through carefully crafted, clever arguments, air tight logic or brilliant oratory. She was able to persuade him because she’s very famous, comes from a famous family, was married to someone famous, has a lot of fans/followers, is extremely marketable, is attractive, and had not criticized Trump publicly. That’s literally all it took. If Taylor Swift had never indicated that she wouldn’t vote for Trump, never criticized him publicly, she could approach him respectfully, ask for a meeting, and he’d be absolutely thrilled to be photographed with her. She could probably get a small concession from him.

Things like legal arguments and facts don’t persuade him. Kim didn’t need to read the law to get something out of him. All she had to do was share her bright spotlight with him.

She knows more about the law now. It's not about what the president knows or doesn't know about the law, it's about her and what she will know what to ask and why

She didn’t learn about these draconian prison sentences for drug mules and the grandma who was serving time on these charges from studying the law; she studied the law because she learned about such injustices. She didn’t need to study the law for years and years to be an advocate for sentencing reform. That’s great if she uses her influence to bring attention to social justice issues, and I wish her good luck if she sits for the bar, but so far, she hasn’t accomplished anything she couldn’t have accomplished without studying the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's bizarre that people attack this woman for pursuing education. I'm sure you also attack her sexual and reproductive choices and general existence. Women can't win.

All the shade cast on Kim is purely misogyny , right PP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MPRE is the multistate professional responsibility exam. It's required in many states to practice, but it is completely separate from passing the bar exam. MPRE is strictly about legal ethics. A bar exam is going to test many many points of knowledge and analytical reasoning in torts, criminal law, constitutional law, property, evidence and civil procedure. Much longer exam with much greater content.

She is not going to pass the bar exam.

Maybe not the first time. The husband of the Japanese ex-princess took 3 or 4 tries before he finally passed.

Kim's got stick-to-it-iveness. She may pass it.

Also, there are some who go to law school and get their JD but never take the bar. Since she's never going to be a first year associate at some Biglaw firm, she doesn't actually need to pass the bar. She has passed her law program. And she knows how to persuade the president, which is an invaluable skill.

That’s a different bar exam, although NY is supposed to be hard, and he was working as an associate while taking it after the first time. CA is supposedly the hardest bar exam in the U.S. also passing her law program is nothing…like the point of the program is to be able to qualify to take the bar exam. It’s not like going to law school and not practicing where you at least have a degree.

She is 100% going to fail the bar and then we will never hear about this again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's bizarre that people attack this woman for pursuing education. I'm sure you also attack her sexual and reproductive choices and general existence. Women can't win.

She’s pursuing the appearance of education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MPRE is the multistate professional responsibility exam. It's required in many states to practice, but it is completely separate from passing the bar exam. MPRE is strictly about legal ethics. A bar exam is going to test many many points of knowledge and analytical reasoning in torts, criminal law, constitutional law, property, evidence and civil procedure. Much longer exam with much greater content.

She is not going to pass the bar exam.

Maybe not the first time. The husband of the Japanese ex-princess took 3 or 4 tries before he finally passed.

Kim's got stick-to-it-iveness. She may pass it.

Also, there are some who go to law school and get their JD but never take the bar. Since she's never going to be a first year associate at some Biglaw firm, she doesn't actually need to pass the bar. She has passed her law program. And she knows how to persuade the president, which is an invaluable skill.

That’s a different bar exam, although NY is supposed to be hard, and he was working as an associate while taking it after the first time. CA is supposedly the hardest bar exam in the U.S. also passing her law program is nothing…like the point of the program is to be able to qualify to take the bar exam. It’s not like going to law school and not practicing where you at least have a degree.

She is 100% going to fail the bar and then we will never hear about this again.

Yes, I know that the NY and CA bar are different bars (I passed a different bar than those). She has the equivalent of a law degree, whether or not she ever passes a bar. You can denigrate her all you like, she passed her law program. And although a JD is used 99% of the time to be a practicing lawyer, it is also happens to be a very good civic education. Which she now has.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kim has finished her law program and passed the MPRE, is now ready to take the bar and become a lawyer. After 6 years, she completed the program - she did it! Congratulations!

https://people.com/kim-kardashian-graduates-law-program-after-6-years-11739705

Nice!

Higher education is always great but it’s annoying and disingenuous of her to claim that she was attending law SCHOOL and graduated from Law SCHOOL.

It was a Law office study program.

“Kim Kardashian graduated from her four-year Law Office Study Program on May 21….
The ceremony comes three months after …she took her Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam (MPRE), a test required in California for candidates without an accredited law school education before they take the Bar exam”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kim has finished her law program and passed the MPRE, is now ready to take the bar and become a lawyer. After 6 years, she completed the program - she did it! Congratulations!

https://people.com/kim-kardashian-graduates-law-program-after-6-years-11739705

Nice!

Higher education is always great but it’s annoying and disingenuous of her to claim that she was attending law SCHOOL and graduated from Law SCHOOL.

It was a Law office study program.

“Kim Kardashian graduated from her four-year Law Office Study Program on May 21….
The ceremony comes three months after …she took her Multistate Professional Responsibility Exam (MPRE), a test required in California for candidates without an accredited law school education before they take the Bar exam”

Also how does she expect to be taken seriously with these get ups?

[Anonymous]

It's pretty gross to judge her for this. She's incredibly wealthy and has comlete freedom as to how to spend her time, and no pressure to pass anything (money, time, etc...). So what if she wants to self-study and prolong it in an untraditional way? So what if she never intends to practice? Would it be a little better for society if she devoted her life to traditional law school for 3 years so teen girls could see that as a model? Sure, but that's not her obligation.

FWIW I failed the last in my series of licensing exams the first time. That is super normal for an exam with a 50%ish pass rate, like the CA Bar. I passed the second time and now I am an exam writer. My story INCLUDES the failed attempt with zero shame.

[Anonymous]

ICYMI: tons of people failed the February bar this year. It’s a national story at the moment.

And plenty of “smart” people who went to “good” schools do not pass on the first try.

I know someone who graduated from a Tier 1 school who has failed the bar 3 times.

I think Kim should be applauded for even bothering to study and achieve a lofty educational goal given that she’s a celeb who doesn’t need the hassle. I think she really cares about criminal justice reform and systemic racism. After all, she is the mom of 4 black children and the aunt of black nieces and nephews. Her voice matters, so why poo poo her attempt to make a difference? Wouldn’t it be great if she’s successful?

[Anonymous]

She’s trying to scam the process because she’s so damn dumb and lazy she can’t do it the traditional way and she is thirsty for attention.

[Anonymous]

Oh and this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30291387/

(not really a lawyer but I play one on tv...?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She’s trying to scam the process because she’s so damn dumb and lazy she can’t do it the traditional way and she is thirsty for attention.

I don’t think she’s particularly smart and she is absolutely thirsty for attention, but one thing you can’t call her is lazy. She is always working. It may be easy work with little skill required, but she’s no layabout.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s awesome and I welcome her to the legal profession. I’m one of I guess the rare lawyers who really enjoys it, and also thinks that it does not take a super high IQ to be a great lawyer. Kim is a businesswoman and no doubt the legal knowledge will help her in that; and her dedication to understand the law (not just be a celebrity social justice influencer) is unique and admirable.