Northam’s “Anti-Asian, Anti-Immigrant” School Initiative

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PISA 2018 – Average Score of Mathematics, Science and Reading:


1. China (Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, Zhejiang) 578.7
2. Singapore 556.3
3. Macao 542.3
4. Hong Kong, China 530.7
5. Estonia 525.3
6. Japan 520.0
7. South Korea 519.7
8. Canada 516.7
Taiwan 516.7
10. Finland 516.3
11. Poland 513.0
12. Ireland 504.7
13. Slovenia 503.7
United Kingdom 503.7
15. New Zealand 502.7
16. Netherlands 502.3
Sweden 502.3
18. Denmark 501.0
19. Germany 500.3
20. Belgium 500.0
21. Australia 499.0
22. Switzerland 498.0
23. Norway 496.7
24. Czechia 495.3
25. United States 495.0


Please look at the top 10. How many Asian countries are there?

What's the point? To proclaim that Asians are smarter and that American school systems should set up magnet schools to cater to them? Racist much?

If you dug into the PISA 2018 data, you'd find that the FCPS average (vs. the United States average) was 527, higher than Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

We don't need a segregated semi-private academy.

Kids at TJ and AAP are not Asian, they are Americans. They were born in this country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's set the record straight. Parents of underprivileged children are NOT in this forum! They are NOT the ones who said to get rid of AAP and TJ. You know who you are and be honest.

It never ceases to amaze me how little people understand the concept of "caring about other people" and "believing in causes that don't affect you".

what about caring about the AAP kids?

I do care about the AAP kids. And research continually proves that they would be better served from an academic perspective in an environment that contains legitimate diversity.

Exactly what research is that? And don't pull opinion pieces out of your ass. I want to see legitimate research.

[Anonymous]

Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PISA 2018 – Average Score of Mathematics, Science and Reading:


1. China (Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, Zhejiang) 578.7
2. Singapore 556.3
3. Macao 542.3
4. Hong Kong, China 530.7
5. Estonia 525.3
6. Japan 520.0
7. South Korea 519.7
8. Canada 516.7
Taiwan 516.7
10. Finland 516.3
11. Poland 513.0
12. Ireland 504.7
13. Slovenia 503.7
United Kingdom 503.7
15. New Zealand 502.7
16. Netherlands 502.3
Sweden 502.3
18. Denmark 501.0
19. Germany 500.3
20. Belgium 500.0
21. Australia 499.0
22. Switzerland 498.0
23. Norway 496.7
24. Czechia 495.3
25. United States 495.0


Please look at the top 10. How many Asian countries are there?

What's the point? To proclaim that Asians are smarter and that American school systems should set up magnet schools to cater to them? Racist much?

If you dug into the PISA 2018 data, you'd find that the FCPS average (vs. the United States average) was 527, higher than Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

We don't need a segregated semi-private academy.

Kids at TJ and AAP are not Asian, they are Americans. They were born in this country.

As a point of fact, you don't really know that a) they were born in this country or not, or b) if they are American nationals or not. Neither is a requirement for attending FCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

How so? There is a responsibility for FCPS to provide an education for all. That requirement is being met. That doesn't mean all kids have to go to TJ. Advanced kids deserve a good education too. Neighborhood schools would not give these TJ students a challenging education. And most kids in neighborhood schools would not do well at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

How so? There is a responsibility for FCPS to provide an education for all. That requirement is being met. That doesn't mean all kids have to go to TJ. Advanced kids deserve a good education too. Neighborhood schools would not give these TJ students a challenging education. And most kids in neighborhood schools would not do well at TJ.

There is no requirement for FCPS to operate a magnet; the needs of children can be met at neighborhood schools; you have no idea whether other children besides those admitted could do well at TJ; and TJ reinforces segregation patterns by pushing higher-income families and certain ethnic groups towards specific schools that are considered TJ feeders.

It is an utter disgrace and completely at odds with the One Fairfax policy to which the BOS and FCPS have formally committed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

How so? There is a responsibility for FCPS to provide an education for all. That requirement is being met. That doesn't mean all kids have to go to TJ. Advanced kids deserve a good education too. Neighborhood schools would not give these TJ students a challenging education. And most kids in neighborhood schools would not do well at TJ.

There is no requirement for FCPS to operate a magnet; the needs of children can be met at neighborhood schools; you have no idea whether other children besides those admitted could do well at TJ; and TJ reinforces segregation patterns by pushing higher-income families and certain ethnic groups towards specific schools that are considered TJ feeders.

It is an utter disgrace and completely at odds with the One Fairfax policy to which the BOS and FCPS have formally committed.

your entire statement is woke/sjw bs

"you have no idea whether other children besides those admitted could do well at TJ; and TJ reinforces segregation patterns by pushing higher-income families and certain ethnic groups towards specific schools that are considered TJ feeders."

give me a break. They keep changing admissions for "diversity" every 5 years or so and the remedial courses go way up because students are admitted who have no business being there

and that last statement makes no sense. TJ doesn't force anyone to do anything. In fact TJ spends dollars and resources explaining the process, and specifically targets lower income and URM areas along with tutoring and other supports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

How so? There is a responsibility for FCPS to provide an education for all. That requirement is being met. That doesn't mean all kids have to go to TJ. Advanced kids deserve a good education too. Neighborhood schools would not give these TJ students a challenging education. And most kids in neighborhood schools would not do well at TJ.

There is no requirement for FCPS to operate a magnet; the needs of children can be met at neighborhood schools; you have no idea whether other children besides those admitted could do well at TJ; and TJ reinforces segregation patterns by pushing higher-income families and certain ethnic groups towards specific schools that are considered TJ feeders.

It is an utter disgrace and completely at odds with the One Fairfax policy to which the BOS and FCPS have formally committed.

A kid that can do well at TJ will not be challenged in a neighborhood school. I'm sure there are others that could do well at the school. They can certainly apply.

People move to those feeder schools. TJ is not pushing anyone to certain schools. The parents of the kids at those feeder schools are pushing for the programs and instruction that will get them ready to apply for TJ. Instead of tearing them down, push for those same programs at the other middle schools. Dismantling schools will only bring everyone down not lift anyone up. Those same kids not getting into TJ still wont be getting TJ level education after you've dismantled everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

How so? There is a responsibility for FCPS to provide an education for all. That requirement is being met. That doesn't mean all kids have to go to TJ. Advanced kids deserve a good education too. Neighborhood schools would not give these TJ students a challenging education. And most kids in neighborhood schools would not do well at TJ.

There is no requirement for FCPS to operate a magnet; the needs of children can be met at neighborhood schools; you have no idea whether other children besides those admitted could do well at TJ; and TJ reinforces segregation patterns by pushing higher-income families and certain ethnic groups towards specific schools that are considered TJ feeders.

It is an utter disgrace and completely at odds with the One Fairfax policy to which the BOS and FCPS have formally committed.

My kids are not smart enough to go to TJ. I admit that and I'm not jealous with kids who go to TJ. In fact, I admire them.

I do not understand why people are so upset at TJ. Please do not use the excuse of diversity and equal opportunities.

My kids go to a title 1 school. Less than 10% are white. Why those rich people don't move into my neighborhood to create more diversity at my school?????? Where those caring people did not want to lift up schools in the poor neighborhoods. Yet, these very caring people are all after TJ because lack of diversity. Our school is l also lack of diversity too, 70% Hispanic. So 70% Hispanic is ok, but 70% Asian is NOT ok?

Just wonder.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

How so? There is a responsibility for FCPS to provide an education for all. That requirement is being met. That doesn't mean all kids have to go to TJ. Advanced kids deserve a good education too. Neighborhood schools would not give these TJ students a challenging education. And most kids in neighborhood schools would not do well at TJ.

There is no requirement for FCPS to operate a magnet; the needs of children can be met at neighborhood schools; you have no idea whether other children besides those admitted could do well at TJ; and TJ reinforces segregation patterns by pushing higher-income families and certain ethnic groups towards specific schools that are considered TJ feeders.

It is an utter disgrace and completely at odds with the One Fairfax policy to which the BOS and FCPS have formally committed.

My kids are not smart enough to go to TJ. I admit that and I'm not jealous with kids who go to TJ. In fact, I admire them.

I do not understand why people are so upset at TJ. Please do not use the excuse of diversity and equal opportunities.

My kids go to a title 1 school. Less than 10% are white. Why those rich people don't move into my neighborhood to create more diversity at my school?????? Where those caring people did not want to lift up schools in the poor neighborhoods. Yet, these very caring people are all after TJ because lack of diversity. Our school is l also lack of diversity too, 70% Hispanic. So 70% Hispanic is ok, but 70% Asian is NOT ok?

Just wonder.....

Got it. It doesn’t bother you that virtually none of those Hispanic kids at your school will have the same opportunities as the kids at TJ or your own kids.

Fortunately, it does bother others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe they can just give each child a number and this way no one would be racial profiling. make sure no one writes about race and then you would have no idea what race any of these kids were. Most of the FCPS schools are really good, therefore I'd just prefer the other schools have more opportunities available and leave TJ as it is unless for some reason they aren't getting the applicants they want in terms of ability. I don't think there should be any quotas or reduced measurements for certain races. All kids in FCPS are guaranteed a high school that prepares them for college if they want to take and succeed in the courses.

100% agree time for this thread to end

When schools like TJ have true racial and economic diversity and we actually live in an equal opportunity society, then we can start to talk about dispensing with the collection and publishing of data on race and income.

Until level, the data reveals discrimination that continues to exist and needs to be addressed.

The inequity in TJ admissions is likely due to societal disparities. FCPS isnt responsible for fixing those. The fact is some of these kids couldnt complete the curriculum as is. That isn't TJ/FCPS' fault

FCPS is currently aggravating those disparities with AAP and TJ, and that is squarely on Brabrand and the School Board.

Eliminate TJHSST.

How so? There is a responsibility for FCPS to provide an education for all. That requirement is being met. That doesn't mean all kids have to go to TJ. Advanced kids deserve a good education too. Neighborhood schools would not give these TJ students a challenging education. And most kids in neighborhood schools would not do well at TJ.

There is no requirement for FCPS to operate a magnet; the needs of children can be met at neighborhood schools; you have no idea whether other children besides those admitted could do well at TJ; and TJ reinforces segregation patterns by pushing higher-income families and certain ethnic groups towards specific schools that are considered TJ feeders.

It is an utter disgrace and completely at odds with the One Fairfax policy to which the BOS and FCPS have formally committed.

A kid that can do well at TJ will not be challenged in a neighborhood school. I'm sure there are others that could do well at the school. They can certainly apply.

People move to those feeder schools. TJ is not pushing anyone to certain schools. The parents of the kids at those feeder schools are pushing for the programs and instruction that will get them ready to apply for TJ. Instead of tearing them down, push for those same programs at the other middle schools. Dismantling schools will only bring everyone down not lift anyone up. Those same kids not getting into TJ still wont be getting TJ level education after you've dismantled everything.

^ This post is nonsense from start to finish.