College Counseling at Sidwell - One Year Later

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Anonymous wrote:CCO "advocacy" starts with an official recommendation letter from the school that is submitted with the college application and may include phone calls with regional college reps.

However, if a student is "waitlisted" at a top 20 school there may be little that CCO can do. Some colleges maintain huge waitlists that are hard to escape from...

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/04/05/599755974/college-waitlists-often-waste-would-be-students-time

We also had a child at Georgetown Day. The GDS CCO was not reluctant at all to pick up the phone and strongly advocate for GDS students with admission officers at colleges'universities where the CCO believed that the students could do the work and would be a good fit.

As usual, GDS folks trying to turn a Sidwell thread into one about them. Posers.

GDS may have its own challenges but I’ve heard very good things about their college counseling operation. Maybe Sidwell Friends could learn a thing or two from what they are doing.

But.. this has nothing to do with GDS, which, as usual, is desperate to stay relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CCO "advocacy" starts with an official recommendation letter from the school that is submitted with the college application and may include phone calls with regional college reps.

However, if a student is "waitlisted" at a top 20 school there may be little that CCO can do. Some colleges maintain huge waitlists that are hard to escape from...

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/04/05/599755974/college-waitlists-often-waste-would-be-students-time

We also had a child at Georgetown Day. The GDS CCO was not reluctant at all to pick up the phone and strongly advocate for GDS students with admission officers at colleges'universities where the CCO believed that the students could do the work and would be a good fit.

As usual, GDS folks trying to turn a Sidwell thread into one about them. Posers.

GDS may have its own challenges but I’ve heard very good things about their college counseling operation. Maybe Sidwell Friends could learn a thing or two from what they are doing.

But.. this has nothing to do with GDS, which, as usual, is desperate to stay relevant.

Ivy and other elite universities find GDS to be very relevant.

[Anonymous]

Omg STOP trying to make fetch happen.

[Anonymous]

Bringing up the GDS CCO isn't really helpful or relevant here. GDS students emerge from a pedagogical environment where they're used to self-advocating and becoming thought leaders, and they don't really need much assistance or direction from a CCO to make their applications stand out as unique from other applicants.

But at Sidwell, the CCO function is really important in helping the students craft unique narratives that differentiate themselves from other high-achievers that otherwise look a little more generic on paper. The administration needs to invest in making the department up to this critical task because these are typically great students who just need a little more guidance and help in finding their way and telling their stories.

[Anonymous]

GDS students emerge from a pedagogical environment where they're used to self-advocating and becoming thought leaders, and they don't really need much assistance or direction from a CCO to make their applications stand out as unique from other applicants.

This is pretty amazing. It adds important perspective to why GDS students do very well with highly selective university admissions. Ivy League early decisions come out tomorrow - lots of anticipation and anxiety in the Big Three.

[Anonymous]

Did you intend the back handed slap at Sidwell kids? Your statement was incorrect and offensive.

[Anonymous]

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GDS students emerge from a pedagogical environment where they're used to self-advocating and becoming thought leaders, and they don't really need much assistance or direction from a CCO to make their applications stand out as unique from other applicants.

This is pretty amazing. It adds important perspective to why GDS students do very well with highly selective university admissions. Ivy League early decisions come out tomorrow - lots of anticipation and anxiety in the Big Three.

Please, STOP.

[Anonymous]

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GDS students emerge from a pedagogical environment where they're used to self-advocating and becoming thought leaders, and they don't really need much assistance or direction from a CCO to make their applications stand out as unique from other applicants.

This is pretty amazing. It adds important perspective to why GDS students do very well with highly selective university admissions. Ivy League early decisions come out tomorrow - lots of anticipation and anxiety in the Big Three.

And GDS as well, presumably?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you intend the back handed slap at Sidwell kids? Your statement was incorrect and offensive.

Which post?

[Anonymous]

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GDS students emerge from a pedagogical environment where they're used to self-advocating and becoming thought leaders, and they don't really need much assistance or direction from a CCO to make their applications stand out as unique from other applicants.

This is pretty amazing. It adds important perspective to why GDS students do very well with highly selective university admissions. Ivy League early decisions come out tomorrow - lots of anticipation and anxiety in the Big Three.

It's not amazing. It's insufferable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bringing up the GDS CCO isn't really helpful or relevant here. GDS students emerge from a pedagogical environment where they're used to self-advocating and becoming thought leaders, and they don't really need much assistance or direction from a CCO to make their applications stand out as unique from other applicants.

But at Sidwell, the CCO function is really important in helping the students craft unique narratives that differentiate themselves from other high-achievers that otherwise look a little more generic on paper. The administration needs to invest in making the department up to this critical task because these are typically great students who just need a little more guidance and help in finding their way and telling their stories.

LOL, the Sidwell CCO doesn't really do anything other than provide foundational school recs and submit all of the stuff once the student pulls it together. they also provide the school profile and transcripts. They certainly don't help write essays or craft narrative for the students.

[Anonymous]

Do they help kids think through where they might want to apply, what their priorities are in selecting a school, what her top factors might be? Any type of a survey to help the kids think that part through?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do they help kids think through where they might want to apply, what their priorities are in selecting a school, what her top factors might be? Any type of a survey to help the kids think that part through?

Yes, of course.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pages 1 and 2 are, obviously not pages 3.

Why doesn’t Sidwell provide their profile? They could provide it privately and not put it up on the website.

Most schools do not put out this information. It is weird that you seem so fixated on it.

Collegiate School NYC: https://bbk12e1-cdn.myschoolcdn.com/ftpimages/21/misc/misc_174645.pdf

These are just some schools that make it available to the world. Many more provide the profile to parents without putting it on their public website.

that's not the school in ny!

[Anonymous]

If Sidwell actually published the matriculation data, it would help people realize that college admissions is not what it was 20 years ago and go a long way toward managing expectations. Keeping things of opaque makes it hard for both families and the school.