US women's gymnastics...

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the names of the people on the USA Board of gymnastics?

Just saw Kelli Hill at Hills in Gaithersburg is (was) a board member.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the names of the people on the USA Board of gymnastics?

Can someone please post the current names from their website? Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: Is there any actual valid reason that a gymnastics doctor would be doing vaginal exams? I know he called them a "pelvic adjustment" and that incontinence (which I'm sure these girls were not experiencing) is a medical reason for this. But what on earth could the MSU coach/director who told a mom "It's a medical procedure" have been thinking? It's not just that he wasn't gloved and didn't have a witness in the room, it's that there was no reason whatsoever for him to be sticking his hands in there, right?

I had the same question. Other than incontinence, I didn't find anything online.

Perhaps that's what s/he was told about the procedure from Nassar, that it is a "medical procedure"? Do we know the circumstances behind the comment? Seems to be a question for a doctor, not a coach or athletic director, but again, the circumstances of the comment are unclear.

The judge said she remained openminded to the idea that this was an actual medical procedure, but that his attorneys never even tried to explain how it was legitimate. In other words, the lawyers knew it wasn't, so they didn't try to argue otherwise.

Rape is never a medical proceedure. They knew that. If MSU administration didn't know that, the institution should just shut down. That's beyond dumb.

There are medical procedures that are done vaginally or rectally. I have a misaligned tailbone from childbirth and was told that the only way it can be fixed is to have an internal adjustment by a pelvic floor physical therapist. That's along the lines of what Nassar CLAIMED to have been doing.

I just read, however, that his "treatments" sometimes lasted as long as 45 minutes. I had no idea before reading that. All the more sickening.

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https://usagym.org/PDFs/About%20USA%20Gymnastics/boardminutes/2017_1209.pdf

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Keli hill is immature in a strange way. They all seem to have a screw loose. Many of these coaches say some of the DUMBEST things. We have been in the sport for decades.

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I have been following gymnastics very closely for decades. Agree that big changes are needed, but not sure that it's productive to dump the entire USAG board. Some members of that board are probably just as horrified and truly didn't have any idea. I can't imagine most of them (esp. the female coaches and former athletes) having any patience for this stuff whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been following gymnastics very closely for decades. Agree that big changes are needed, but not sure that it's productive to dump the entire USAG board. Some members of that board are probably just as horrified and truly didn't have any idea. I can't imagine most of them (esp. the female coaches and former athletes) having any patience for this stuff whatsoever.

Honestly? You seem to be in La-La Land.

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Lots of this kind of abuse and more at the most select private schools and Olympic training programs. (See Horace Mann, St. James, etc.) People who are desperate for the children to excel at "elite" institutions will look the other way. Be careful what you wish for.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been following gymnastics very closely for decades. Agree that big changes are needed, but not sure that it's productive to dump the entire USAG board. Some members of that board are probably just as horrified and truly didn't have any idea. I can't imagine most of them (esp. the female coaches and former athletes) having any patience for this stuff whatsoever.

They failed at their job... gross negligence. Its hard to hold a boards liable for anything, but this time hopefully will be different. These clowns should never be in a position of power again. I hope they suffer.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been following gymnastics very closely for decades. Agree that big changes are needed, but not sure that it's productive to dump the entire USAG board. Some members of that board are probably just as horrified and truly didn't have any idea. I can't imagine most of them (esp. the female coaches and former athletes) having any patience for this stuff whatsoever.

They failed at their job... gross negligence. Its hard to hold a boards liable for anything, but this time hopefully will be different. These clowns should never be in a position of power again. I hope they suffer.

...in prison.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of this kind of abuse and more at the most select private schools and Olympic training programs. (See Horace Mann, St. James, etc.) People who are desperate for the children to excel at "elite" institutions will look the other way. Be careful what you wish for.

Several parents of the abused gymnasts have spoke out and seemed horrified. I don’t think they had any idea.

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Anonymous wrote:https://usagym.org/PDFs/About%20USA%20Gymnastics/boardminutes/2017_1209.pdf

Thank you for this link.
These people should hang their heads in shame.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: Is there any actual valid reason that a gymnastics doctor would be doing vaginal exams? I know he called them a "pelvic adjustment" and that incontinence (which I'm sure these girls were not experiencing) is a medical reason for this. But what on earth could the MSU coach/director who told a mom "It's a medical procedure" have been thinking? It's not just that he wasn't gloved and didn't have a witness in the room, it's that there was no reason whatsoever for him to be sticking his hands in there, right?

I would imagine that it would be possible for someone doing high level sports to injure themselves in a way that required pelvic floor therapy, but that any responsible doctor who came to that conclusion would

1) Refer to someone who was specifically certified in that procedure (e.g. a pelvic floor specialist PT), unless they had that specialty themselves.

2) Notify parents (assuming an underage athlete), talk them through the procedure, obtain their consent and ask them to either be present or if they couldn't (e.g. at a training camp far from home) ask the to help their daughter select someone to be present with them.

3) Carefully explain to the athlete exactly what was going to happen, and why, and obtain their consent.

4) Stop at any point if they didn't gain consent.

5) Wear gloves.

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Every under-aged athlete should have immediate access to child protection advocates.

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They were also likely being advised by their general counsel to do things that minimized tort liability exposure of USA Gymnastics as a business. Hence, the blah, blah, blah generalities in press statement and now words from the Board except thru the President, CEO or spokesperson.

Also, there is a note in the USOC directive that athlete directors can reapply for a role on the board.