PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even with your cherry picked numbers which don't match anyone else's, Watkins only beats Janney by 4 points. For the actual numbers, Watkins loses to Janney by 60.

Same poster here. Can someone please explain to me why people in upper Northwest are squabbling about less than 10% differences?

And Janney has 2% FARM so you have to "cherry pick"....how is it cherry picking if you compare the major subset of group of Janney to the equal subset of another school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even with your cherry picked numbers which don't match anyone else's, Watkins only beats Janney by 4 points. For the actual numbers, Watkins loses to Janney by 60.

Same poster here. Can someone please explain to me why people in upper Northwest are squabbling about less than 10% differences?

I don't think it's a squabble when you're comparing some Eaton or Stoddert and Janney. There is a 14 point difference. Keep in mind Stoddert and Eaton are schools that most consider inferior of the WOTP schools. It's been said hundreds of times why JKLM parents don't consider Stoddert and Eatoj on their level. This is great vindication. Poor, poor Janney. Hope they don't continue to drag the Deal scores down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My primary reaction to these scores is concern - and dismay. DC/DCPS really needs to figure out how to help all the students in DCPS. There are so many schools with scores below 10%, the MS in Ward and have 1-2% of the students tested proficient at grade level in reading and math and I think none or almost none are advanced. That means less that less then 10 students in grades 6-8 enrolled in DCPS in Ward 8 tested as on grade level. We as a city are failing to educate these kids. The difference between white and black, white and Hispanic, the haves and the have nots in D.C. is staggering. I know this has been a focus of DCPS for some time but whatever they are doing is not working. I know this is nothing new (unfortunately) but it just makes me so mad and also sad. I know people who work in these schools who try so hard and are so frustrated and discouraged by these scores. I really want to know if there are urban school systems that managed to turn around a significant number of struggling schools. It just feels impossible yet we as community need all of our children to be educated.

I just think the schools that are really struggling should be of more concern.

"We as a city are failing to educate these kids"? You are well intentioned. But the reality is that no public school system can reverse the course set in motion by poor decision making. Single mothers having multiple babies with multiple fathers is a guaranteed fast pass to generational poverty. If only the political leaders in this city would say what needs to be said. That would go a long way towards closing the DCPS achievement gap.

Look at Hearst. Same teachers, same books, same school resources. Almost 50-50 diversity. But the white students are 75%+ meeting or exceeding expectations for math and English for college. Meanwhile, minority students are at the 20% or lower. DCPS is not the problem, for once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My primary reaction to these scores is concern - and dismay. DC/DCPS really needs to figure out how to help all the students in DCPS. There are so many schools with scores below 10%, the MS in Ward and have 1-2% of the students tested proficient at grade level in reading and math and I think none or almost none are advanced. That means less that less then 10 students in grades 6-8 enrolled in DCPS in Ward 8 tested as on grade level. We as a city are failing to educate these kids. The difference between white and black, white and Hispanic, the haves and the have nots in D.C. is staggering. I know this has been a focus of DCPS for some time but whatever they are doing is not working. I know this is nothing new (unfortunately) but it just makes me so mad and also sad. I know people who work in these schools who try so hard and are so frustrated and discouraged by these scores. I really want to know if there are urban school systems that managed to turn around a significant number of struggling schools. It just feels impossible yet we as community need all of our children to be educated.

I just think the schools that are really struggling should be of more concern.

"We as a city are failing to educate these kids"? You are well intentioned. But the reality is that no public school system can reverse the course set in motion by poor decision making. Single mothers having multiple babies with multiple fathers is a guaranteed fast pass to generational poverty. If only the political leaders in this city would say what needs to be said. That would go a long way towards closing the DCPS achievement gap.

Look at Hearst. Same teachers, same books, same school resources. Almost 50-50 diversity. But the white students are 75%+ meeting or exceeding expectations for math and English for college. Meanwhile, minority students are at the 20% or lower. DCPS is not the problem, for once.

So you are saying that white parents make better parenting decisions then minority families and because of this white children do better and that if our city leaders would just call minorities out on this it would help close the achievement gap?

I don' even know where to start....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What stands out to me is that Janney is not all it's cracked up to be. Sure, it has the highest overall scores, but that is because they have zero minority or low income students testing. If you drill down to white only performance, Janney has 69% on math, a whole 13-15 points below Eaton, Oyster, Stoddert, Yu Ying, even 9-11 points below Watkins and Hearst. In fact, they rank 14 out of 16th of elementary schools with White student performance in math and 6th out of 16th in ELA.

You don't need to drill down, look at Math/All:

Ross 74.5
Lafayette 72.9
Stoddert 72.4
Murch 68.8
Eaton 67.3
Janney 66.9
Key 65.1
Mann 60.8

(Two of the KIPP schools are in this range too, but they don't have 5th grade.)

I haven't seen the grade breakdown, but I assume the weak performance at Mann and Key is related to losing half of their students, mostly strong ones, to private.

And Janney?

Shut UP, Becky! Jesus, sit back and let the world revolve around someone else for a minute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even with your cherry picked numbers which don't match anyone else's, Watkins only beats Janney by 4 points. For the actual numbers, Watkins loses to Janney by 60.

Same poster here. Can someone please explain to me why people in upper Northwest are squabbling about less than 10% differences?

Sure. It's a callous sense of entitlement.

[Anonymous]

These scores do make you wonder why Janney parents think they have bragging rights on DCUM.

Well, brag about the chickens all you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My primary reaction to these scores is concern - and dismay. DC/DCPS really needs to figure out how to help all the students in DCPS. There are so many schools with scores below 10%, the MS in Ward and have 1-2% of the students tested proficient at grade level in reading and math and I think none or almost none are advanced. That means less that less then 10 students in grades 6-8 enrolled in DCPS in Ward 8 tested as on grade level. We as a city are failing to educate these kids. The difference between white and black, white and Hispanic, the haves and the have nots in D.C. is staggering. I know this has been a focus of DCPS for some time but whatever they are doing is not working. I know this is nothing new (unfortunately) but it just makes me so mad and also sad. I know people who work in these schools who try so hard and are so frustrated and discouraged by these scores. I really want to know if there are urban school systems that managed to turn around a significant number of struggling schools. It just feels impossible yet we as community need all of our children to be educated.

I just think the schools that are really struggling should be of more concern.

"We as a city are failing to educate these kids"? You are well intentioned. But the reality is that no public school system can reverse the course set in motion by poor decision making. Single mothers having multiple babies with multiple fathers is a guaranteed fast pass to generational poverty. If only the political leaders in this city would say what needs to be said. That would go a long way towards closing the DCPS achievement gap.

Look at Hearst. Same teachers, same books, same school resources. Almost 50-50 diversity. But the white students are 75%+ meeting or exceeding expectations for math and English for college. Meanwhile, minority students are at the 20% or lower. DCPS is not the problem, for once.

So you are saying that white parents make better parenting decisions then minority families and because of this white children do better and that if our city leaders would just call minorities out on this it would help close the achievement gap?

I don' even know where to start....

I think that's pretty much the sad truth. The schools cannot close the gap without fixing the parents first. And that would require some serious infringment of personal liberty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My primary reaction to these scores is concern - and dismay. DC/DCPS really needs to figure out how to help all the students in DCPS. There are so many schools with scores below 10%, the MS in Ward and have 1-2% of the students tested proficient at grade level in reading and math and I think none or almost none are advanced. That means less that less then 10 students in grades 6-8 enrolled in DCPS in Ward 8 tested as on grade level. We as a city are failing to educate these kids. The difference between white and black, white and Hispanic, the haves and the have nots in D.C. is staggering. I know this has been a focus of DCPS for some time but whatever they are doing is not working. I know this is nothing new (unfortunately) but it just makes me so mad and also sad. I know people who work in these schools who try so hard and are so frustrated and discouraged by these scores. I really want to know if there are urban school systems that managed to turn around a significant number of struggling schools. It just feels impossible yet we as community need all of our children to be educated.

I just think the schools that are really struggling should be of more concern.

"We as a city are failing to educate these kids"? You are well intentioned. But the reality is that no public school system can reverse the course set in motion by poor decision making. Single mothers having multiple babies with multiple fathers is a guaranteed fast pass to generational poverty. If only the political leaders in this city would say what needs to be said. That would go a long way towards closing the DCPS achievement gap.

Look at Hearst. Same teachers, same books, same school resources. Almost 50-50 diversity. But the white students are 75%+ meeting or exceeding expectations for math and English for college. Meanwhile, minority students are at the 20% or lower. DCPS is not the problem, for once.

So you are saying that white parents make better parenting decisions then minority families and because of this white children do better and that if our city leaders would just call minorities out on this it would help close the achievement gap?

I don' even know where to start....

I think that's pretty much the sad truth. The schools cannot close the gap without fixing the parents first. And that would require some serious infringment of personal liberty.

And yet a handful of schools (both DCPS and charter) seem to be serving their students of color well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My primary reaction to these scores is concern - and dismay. DC/DCPS really needs to figure out how to help all the students in DCPS. There are so many schools with scores below 10%, the MS in Ward and have 1-2% of the students tested proficient at grade level in reading and math and I think none or almost none are advanced. That means less that less then 10 students in grades 6-8 enrolled in DCPS in Ward 8 tested as on grade level. We as a city are failing to educate these kids. The difference between white and black, white and Hispanic, the haves and the have nots in D.C. is staggering. I know this has been a focus of DCPS for some time but whatever they are doing is not working. I know this is nothing new (unfortunately) but it just makes me so mad and also sad. I know people who work in these schools who try so hard and are so frustrated and discouraged by these scores. I really want to know if there are urban school systems that managed to turn around a significant number of struggling schools. It just feels impossible yet we as community need all of our children to be educated.

I just think the schools that are really struggling should be of more concern.

"We as a city are failing to educate these kids"? You are well intentioned. But the reality is that no public school system can reverse the course set in motion by poor decision making. Single mothers having multiple babies with multiple fathers is a guaranteed fast pass to generational poverty. If only the political leaders in this city would say what needs to be said. That would go a long way towards closing the DCPS achievement gap.

Look at Hearst. Same teachers, same books, same school resources. Almost 50-50 diversity. But the white students are 75%+ meeting or exceeding expectations for math and English for college. Meanwhile, minority students are at the 20% or lower. DCPS is not the problem, for once.

So you are saying that white parents make better parenting decisions then minority families and because of this white children do better and that if our city leaders would just call minorities out on this it would help close the achievement gap?

I don' even know where to start....

Generally speaking, yes -- especially when the "parenting decision" is not having children in your teens, before being married or finishing your education or having a job. Unfortunately, this happens much more to minority families in DC than it does to white families.

And it's not a matter of city leaders simply calling minorities out about this -- it's that you can't begin to solve a problem until you've acknowledged it - and you address it, directly.

It would have been nice if firing half the teachers and raising the salaries of the remaining half had worked, but that was a stupid plan from the beginning. So it's time to be realistic and confront the issue head on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My primary reaction to these scores is concern - and dismay. DC/DCPS really needs to figure out how to help all the students in DCPS. There are so many schools with scores below 10%, the MS in Ward and have 1-2% of the students tested proficient at grade level in reading and math and I think none or almost none are advanced. That means less that less then 10 students in grades 6-8 enrolled in DCPS in Ward 8 tested as on grade level. We as a city are failing to educate these kids. The difference between white and black, white and Hispanic, the haves and the have nots in D.C. is staggering. I know this has been a focus of DCPS for some time but whatever they are doing is not working. I know this is nothing new (unfortunately) but it just makes me so mad and also sad. I know people who work in these schools who try so hard and are so frustrated and discouraged by these scores. I really want to know if there are urban school systems that managed to turn around a significant number of struggling schools. It just feels impossible yet we as community need all of our children to be educated.

I just think the schools that are really struggling should be of more concern.

"We as a city are failing to educate these kids"? You are well intentioned. But the reality is that no public school system can reverse the course set in motion by poor decision making. Single mothers having multiple babies with multiple fathers is a guaranteed fast pass to generational poverty. If only the political leaders in this city would say what needs to be said. That would go a long way towards closing the DCPS achievement gap.

Look at Hearst. Same teachers, same books, same school resources. Almost 50-50 diversity. But the white students are 75%+ meeting or exceeding expectations for math and English for college. Meanwhile, minority students are at the 20% or lower. DCPS is not the problem, for once.

So you are saying that white parents make better parenting decisions then minority families and because of this white children do better and that if our city leaders would just call minorities out on this it would help close the achievement gap?

I don' even know where to start....

Generally speaking, yes -- especially when the "parenting decision" is not having children in your teens, before being married or finishing your education or having a job. Unfortunately, this happens much more to minority families in DC than it does to white families.

And it's not a matter of city leaders simply calling minorities out about this -- it's that you can't begin to solve a problem until you've acknowledged it - and you address it, directly.

It would have been nice if firing half the teachers and raising the salaries of the remaining half had worked, but that was a stupid plan from the beginning. So it's time to be realistic and confront the issue head on.

What did you have in mind? We could try to coerce the pregnant teens into having abortions, but that's Planned Parenthood's job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My primary reaction to these scores is concern - and dismay. DC/DCPS really needs to figure out how to help all the students in DCPS. There are so many schools with scores below 10%, the MS in Ward and have 1-2% of the students tested proficient at grade level in reading and math and I think none or almost none are advanced. That means less that less then 10 students in grades 6-8 enrolled in DCPS in Ward 8 tested as on grade level. We as a city are failing to educate these kids. The difference between white and black, white and Hispanic, the haves and the have nots in D.C. is staggering. I know this has been a focus of DCPS for some time but whatever they are doing is not working. I know this is nothing new (unfortunately) but it just makes me so mad and also sad. I know people who work in these schools who try so hard and are so frustrated and discouraged by these scores. I really want to know if there are urban school systems that managed to turn around a significant number of struggling schools. It just feels impossible yet we as community need all of our children to be educated.

I just think the schools that are really struggling should be of more concern.

"We as a city are failing to educate these kids"? You are well intentioned. But the reality is that no public school system can reverse the course set in motion by poor decision making. Single mothers having multiple babies with multiple fathers is a guaranteed fast pass to generational poverty. If only the political leaders in this city would say what needs to be said. That would go a long way towards closing the DCPS achievement gap.

Look at Hearst. Same teachers, same books, same school resources. Almost 50-50 diversity. But the white students are 75%+ meeting or exceeding expectations for math and English for college. Meanwhile, minority students are at the 20% or lower. DCPS is not the problem, for once.

So you are saying that white parents make better parenting decisions then minority families and because of this white children do better and that if our city leaders would just call minorities out on this it would help close the achievement gap?

I don' even know where to start....

Generally speaking, yes -- especially when the "parenting decision" is not having children in your teens, before being married or finishing your education or having a job. Unfortunately, this happens much more to minority families in DC than it does to white families.

And it's not a matter of city leaders simply calling minorities out about this -- it's that you can't begin to solve a problem until you've acknowledged it - and you address it, directly.

It would have been nice if firing half the teachers and raising the salaries of the remaining half had worked, but that was a stupid plan from the beginning. So it's time to be realistic and confront the issue head on.

What did you have in mind? We could try to coerce the pregnant teens into having abortions, but that's Planned Parenthood's job.

I don't have a quick, DCUM-ready solution, but I do know it's wrong to ignore the problem and expect it to go away -- which is what DCPS has been doing. Even worse, they've been throwing money away in a stupid teacher evaluation plan, as if THAT would solve the problem.

[Anonymous]

I have an idea -- Let's hire a media consultant and throw a big year-end party for all "highly effective" teachers.

Maybe that will raise scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What stands out to me is that Janney is not all it's cracked up to be. Sure, it has the highest overall scores, but that is because they have zero minority or low income students testing. If you drill down to white only performance, Janney has 69% on math, a whole 13-15 points below Eaton, Oyster, Stoddert, Yu Ying, even 9-11 points below Watkins and Hearst. In fact, they rank 14 out of 16th of elementary schools with White student performance in math and 6th out of 16th in ELA.

You don't need to drill down, look at Math/All:

Ross 74.5
Lafayette 72.9
Stoddert 72.4
Murch 68.8
Eaton 67.3
Janney 66.9
Key 65.1
Mann 60.8

(Two of the KIPP schools are in this range too, but they don't have 5th grade.)

The takeaway is quite different. It's that at schools like Key, Mann and Janney, there are English-as-a-second-language white kids. The ELL don't come from the black or hispanic student populations, but from the white populations (owing to the embassy folk attending those schools).

I think you misunderstood. This is Math/ALL not Math/ELL (LOL!)

Mmm... I read it differently, it seems that Janney is doing a greater job than the other schools for its non white students. Its score is actually better on the overall population than on the white students only !

Nice try spin doctor. There were less than 25 minority students that tested, add to that Janney only has 2% low income.

Wondering what 2% low income translates into exactly? Does that mean Janney has 1 or 2 low income kids in the entire testing grades?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aggregate for WOTP
Janney ES 74%
Ross ES 73%
Lafayette ES 72%
Mann ES 71%
Eaton ES 69%
Murch ES 68%
Key ES 65%
Oyster Adams Bilingual School 52%
Hearst ES 42%

In the interest of accuracy, Murch's aggregate math/english score is 67% (someone made a rounding error). Oyster's aggregate score is 54% (that one is just off). All of the other scores are correct.