NYT: "The Trouble with Men"

Anonymous
If you have a couple of young kids are you really going to happily encourage your man to go out to the bars with his buddies three nights a week? Are you really going to be cool with your man going on frequent guys vacations?

I mean sister get real. The kind of completely serious and devoted man who can fulfill your family career and financial aspirations as well as be anywhere close to 50/50 on the kids and household chores is not going to be able to fulfill all those things AND HAVE AN ACTIVE SOCIAL LIFE THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE YOU and it your kids and or both of your extended families.


Oh, I am not looking to have any more kids - my one teen is enough for me. I wouldn't be a match for a guy with young kids, just not interested in doing that. Older kids and teens are welcome. I would love a guy with his own friends and interests, I have my own as well. Not necessarily looking to get married again, just to have a partner to enjoy spending time with.
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The kind of completely serious and devoted man who can fulfill your family career and financial aspirations as well as be anywhere close to 50/50 on the kids and household chores is not going to be able to fulfill all those things AND HAVE AN ACTIVE SOCIAL LIFE THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE YOU and it your kids and or both of your extended families.


Oh, I am not looking to have any more kids - my one teen is enough for me. I wouldn't be a match for a guy with young kids, just not interested in doing that. Older kids and teens are welcome. I would love a guy with his own friends and interests, I have my own as well. Not necessarily looking to get married again, just to have a partner to enjoy spending time with.


Also, not sure what you mean by financial aspirations - I'm not looking for someone to contribute to my finances, I am good. However, I don't want to have to financially support someone else. As long as someone has a reasonable job (my last boyfriend was an investigator at a financial regulatory agency), I'm happy with him work-wise.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Wtf. Almost every state is 50/50 custody even if you are an abuser to anyone but the kid.

It’s sad that the only way to get some males with kids to parent is via the court system. Guess their (first) family and marriage weren’t worth growing up for.


What's truly sad is that so many moms who are 100% responsible for whom they choose to procreate with, don't make better choices

There wouldn't be any dead beat dads at all if women weren't constantly using irresponsible unprotected sex to fulfill their own emotional needs, with no thought at all as to the suitability of the men they are choosing to procreate with

Try as you might to wriggle out of the inevitable conclusion, women are the gatekeepers to their own wombs. If they grant access injudisciously, they are solely responsible for the consequences.


That’s the point of all the recent articles and discord: women are making better choices and skipping over duds.

One problem is there are way more male duds than male non-duds or female duds.


From the male point of view, just the opposite. There are more female duds than male duds.

Female duds: unpleasant to be around, crazy, physically unattractive - and yet nevertheless has an absurd list of demands for what she wants men to be and do.

And women wonder why men are increasingly indifferent to them. Astounding lack of self awareness, smh.

Don’t understand. Can you pls provide some examples of each?

Unpleasant to be around, for example:
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Crazy, for example:
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Physically unattractive, for example:
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Wtf. Almost every state is 50/50 custody even if you are an abuser to anyone but the kid.

It’s sad that the only way to get some males with kids to parent is via the court system. Guess their (first) family and marriage weren’t worth growing up for.


What's truly sad is that so many moms who are 100% responsible for whom they choose to procreate with, don't make better choices

There wouldn't be any dead beat dads at all if women weren't constantly using irresponsible unprotected sex to fulfill their own emotional needs, with no thought at all as to the suitability of the men they are choosing to procreate with

Try as you might to wriggle out of the inevitable conclusion, women are the gatekeepers to their own wombs. If they grant access injudisciously, they are solely responsible for the consequences.


That’s the point of all the recent articles and discord: women are making better choices and skipping over duds.

One problem is there are way more male duds than male non-duds or female duds.


From the male point of view, just the opposite. There are more female duds than male duds.

Female duds: unpleasant to be around, crazy, physically unattractive - and yet nevertheless has an absurd list of demands for what she wants men to be and do.

And women wonder why men are increasingly indifferent to them. Astounding lack of self awareness, smh.


Are all these pregnant unwed women with no father around to raise the children considered “female duds”?

How does that work?

There’s just so many fatherless children being raised by never married single mothers and their maternal grandmothers.

Who’s the dud? Or is it two duds? breeding a future dud?
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Wtf. Almost every state is 50/50 custody even if you are an abuser to anyone but the kid.

It’s sad that the only way to get some males with kids to parent is via the court system. Guess their (first) family and marriage weren’t worth growing up for.


What's truly sad is that so many moms who are 100% responsible for whom they choose to procreate with, don't make better choices

There wouldn't be any dead beat dads at all if women weren't constantly using irresponsible unprotected sex to fulfill their own emotional needs, with no thought at all as to the suitability of the men they are choosing to procreate with

Try as you might to wriggle out of the inevitable conclusion, women are the gatekeepers to their own wombs. If they grant access injudisciously, they are solely responsible for the consequences.


That’s the point of all the recent articles and discord: women are making better choices and skipping over duds.

One problem is there are way more male duds than male non-duds or female duds.


From the male point of view, just the opposite. There are more female duds than male duds.

Female duds: unpleasant to be around, crazy, physically unattractive - and yet nevertheless has an absurd list of demands for what she wants men to be and do.

And women wonder why men are increasingly indifferent to them. Astounding lack of self awareness, smh.

Don’t understand. Can you pls provide some examples of each?

Unpleasant to be around, for example:
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Crazy, for example:
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Physically unattractive, for example:
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Look in the mirror ho
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These women want weak men they can dominate. Unfortunately women can never really be happy in a relationship with a passive man because it means the woman has to be responsible for everything.

As always, over privileged over educated white feminist elite liberals are spoiled children who are never satisfied yet blame everyone but themselves for the outcomes of their own choices.

So it is ALWAYS the mans fault.

Spoken like a man who wants to date a high school girl. 🤢
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Wtf. Almost every state is 50/50 custody even if you are an abuser to anyone but the kid.

It’s sad that the only way to get some males with kids to parent is via the court system. Guess their (first) family and marriage weren’t worth growing up for.


What's truly sad is that so many moms who are 100% responsible for whom they choose to procreate with, don't make better choices

There wouldn't be any dead beat dads at all if women weren't constantly using irresponsible unprotected sex to fulfill their own emotional needs, with no thought at all as to the suitability of the men they are choosing to procreate with

Try as you might to wriggle out of the inevitable conclusion, women are the gatekeepers to their own wombs. If they grant access injudisciously, they are solely responsible for the consequences.


That’s the point of all the recent articles and discord: women are making better choices and skipping over duds.

One problem is there are way more male duds than male non-duds or female duds.


From the male point of view, just the opposite. There are more female duds than male duds.

Female duds: unpleasant to be around, crazy, physically unattractive - and yet nevertheless has an absurd list of demands for what she wants men to be and do.

And women wonder why men are increasingly indifferent to them. Astounding lack of self awareness, smh.

Don’t understand. Can you pls provide some examples of each?

Unpleasant to be around, for example:
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-

Crazy, for example:
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-

Physically unattractive, for example:
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Look in the mirror ho


Excellent thought process, and lack thereof! Thx for confirming your maturity level for us.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.


Yeah! Between that and stopping all incarcerations the last 15 years the Baby Daddy’s are bound to do some high quality, time intensive parenting and spousing. Yeah!

Oh wait. You said “access to their kids.” So it’s all about him again. He wants on demand “access to his kids.” Which as we all know has nothing to do with caring for the kids or parenting the kids. Jsut an ego check the box thing, and the sitter, or his mom, or the new side piece can handle the pizza and screen time.

Access to the kids.

Somehow in someone’s pea brain that equates to being a real dad and needing a divorce court to finally force parenting time. Now only if actual parenting happened then….
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Your attitude is a.large part of the problem. If a father's access to his children is discounted as illegitimate, because you insist on arbitrary hurdles to that access, you are disincentivizing the father from participating in the family life in a way which you claim to want.

It's called shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you should stop doing that.

Real fathers don’t need arbitrary hurdles. They just are real fathers. They are happy to support their children. You sound like your baby mama needs to pull your teeth to get you to participate in parenting. Maybe dead beat dads shouldn’t be giving parenting advice on mommy forums…
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Wtf. Almost every state is 50/50 custody even if you are an abuser to anyone but the kid.

It’s sad that the only way to get some males with kids to parent is via the court system. Guess their (first) family and marriage weren’t worth growing up for.


What's truly sad is that so many moms who are 100% responsible for whom they choose to procreate with, don't make better choices

There wouldn't be any dead beat dads at all if women weren't constantly using irresponsible unprotected sex to fulfill their own emotional needs, with no thought at all as to the suitability of the men they are choosing to procreate with

Try as you might to wriggle out of the inevitable conclusion, women are the gatekeepers to their own wombs. If they grant access injudisciously, they are solely responsible for the consequences.


+1

Take some damn responsibility for yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Wtf. Almost every state is 50/50 custody even if you are an abuser to anyone but the kid.

It’s sad that the only way to get some males with kids to parent is via the court system. Guess their (first) family and marriage weren’t worth growing up for.


What's truly sad is that so many moms who are 100% responsible for whom they choose to procreate with, don't make better choices

There wouldn't be any dead beat dads at all if women weren't constantly using irresponsible unprotected sex to fulfill their own emotional needs, with no thought at all as to the suitability of the men they are choosing to procreate with

Try as you might to wriggle out of the inevitable conclusion, women are the gatekeepers to their own wombs. If they grant access injudisciously, they are solely responsible for the consequences.


+1

Take some damn responsibility for yourself.


Lol. They are telling more women to take responsibility by choosing to be single moms from the beginning instead of sleeping with the wrong man.
Anonymous
We really went full circle confirmation here folks!

Ladies - avoid the covert or overt duds by being a Single mom by Choice.
Less risk, less heartache, and less work!
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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Wtf. Almost every state is 50/50 custody even if you are an abuser to anyone but the kid.

It’s sad that the only way to get some males with kids to parent is via the court system. Guess their (first) family and marriage weren’t worth growing up for.


What's truly sad is that so many moms who are 100% responsible for whom they choose to procreate with, don't make better choices

There wouldn't be any dead beat dads at all if women weren't constantly using irresponsible unprotected sex to fulfill their own emotional needs, with no thought at all as to the suitability of the men they are choosing to procreate with

Try as you might to wriggle out of the inevitable conclusion, women are the gatekeepers to their own wombs. If they grant access injudisciously, they are solely responsible for the consequences.


That’s the point of all the recent articles and discord: women are making better choices and skipping over duds.

One problem is there are way more male duds than male non-duds or female duds.


From the male point of view, just the opposite. There are more female duds than male duds.

Female duds: unpleasant to be around, crazy, physically unattractive - and yet nevertheless has an absurd list of demands for what she wants men to be and do.

And women wonder why men are increasingly indifferent to them. Astounding lack of self awareness, smh.

Don’t understand. Can you pls provide some examples of each?

Unpleasant to be around, for example:
-
-

Crazy, for example:
-
-

Physically unattractive, for example:
-
-


Look in the mirror ho


#DadMaterialExample1000000000
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes you can have a kid on your own but depriving that kid of a mom or a dad is a selfish decision.

Something like 25% of kids are being raised without a father. I hope you admonish every dead beat loser who puts a check in the mail instead of being a father.


I hope you admonish every evil loser who denies her ex husband access to his kids just to spite him.

Right right. If you were actually a good dad you wouldn’t be “denied access”. Time to face the music, youre the deadbeat we’re talking about NOT settling for.


Women 100% deny access to good dads just to spite them.


Ha.

My parents were married until my mother’s death. I have an amazing dad.

And no force on earth would have “denied him access” to his kids if they had been divorced with joint custody. He would have been standing at the door the moment his custody time started.

Whenever I hear about a woman “denying access” on this site, the details of the story are “man doesn’t want to follow court ordered agreement for time and money”
Anonymous
Correct. Only child abuse or repeated Contempt of Court gets one “denied access”.
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