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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Hi. Survivor of dictatorship here. The resemblance is uncanny and that's where we are headed in the US


So then why are you still here? If you believe the US is unquestionably in a dictatorship and you’ve moved away from one already, why haven’t you packed up and fled?

This is what makes it so hard to believe any of these people with their persecution fantasies: none of them are actually doing what people who have actually survived fascist dictatorships (e.g. my own family members) do.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


I’m guessing you must have just scraped through your degree with assistance from others.


Ah, yes, the usual rhetorical refuge of the extreme academic left appears. “I can’t tolerate anyone who disagrees with my viewpoint, so I need to attack the credibility of the messenger.” Of course. 🙄
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


NP

Sorry, what’s your point?


NP the people who say this are the ones out of touch. Biden did more to help the masses than Trump ever did. He did amazing things for the unions, rail workers, auto workers. Biden was actually trying to help the lower middle class and they shived him for it.


Close to a million tech jobs were lost under Biden. There were also 8 million illegal workers that flooded in and took blue collar jobs.

Add in the 20% increase in grocery prices and 30% in rent and Biden did far more harm than good.

That’s why republicans own the presidency, house and senate.


That’s half of it. The bigger half is that the GOP echo system has been duping Americans citizens for the past 2 decades. The right wing media machine has galvanized Americans against Democrats, using wedge issues like trans in ladies bathrooms or sports to drive voters to Trump.

Trump & Musk know their voters are stupid and they know how to play them. It worked beautifully. Behavior is predictable. Republican voters will sign off on anything Musk & Trump do. No matter what.


What a depressingly cynical view of the world. People have agency. Democrats made policy choices and voters have responded to it. The same will be true when the pendulum swings the other way.


No, people actually have a lot less agency than you think. Humans are animals and react predictably to fear filled propaganda. Conservatives and old people in particular are particularly susceptible to being duped. Dem policies are a whole lot more popular than “cut everything that benefits working people to give Elon a tax break”, but those scary dog-eating trans Haitians in locker rooms get them every time.

This just helps you understand, it doesn’t mean they should be exempt or immune from what comes next. You touch a hot stove, you’re going to get burned. It doesn’t matter if you were told and believed your hands were fireproof.


lol... you people are still yammering about how policies may have impacted in the 2024 election. Sure, policies may have accounted for a drop or two in a bucket of reasons why Trump won. The rest of the drops in that bucket all have to do with an incumbent party having an incumbent with a sub 40% job approval rating backing out of the race 3 months prior to Election Day.

An incumbent with a sub 40% approval rating NEVER wins a second term and likely never will. An incumbent party that has to replace their unpopular incumbent with that unpopular incumbent's VP at the last minute has a zero chance of winning. ZERO! But sure, yea, it was "policies".....


You’re just reinforcing my point. Why did Biden have such a low approval rating? Because they truly believed dog eating trans Haitians in locker rooms were taking their entitlements, in between showing young girls their male genitals in locker rooms and conspiring with the Jews on their DEI space lasers. After that mess, no intelligent thought was ever going to cut through the mess of emotions and noise.

Plus, people didn’t want to make love to Kamala. Maybe if she died her hair blonde, stuffed her lips full of fillers, and wore clumpy mascara she would have stood a better chance.


Biden had a low approval rating because he was a poor leader of the people at his elderly age. Obama faced the similar ridiculousness during his presidency. Remember, he was accused of being an America hating Muslim with a fake birth certificate... none of the silly rhetoric prevented him from having a 50% approval rating and easily winning a second term. Plug Obama into the exact same 2021-2024 political and economic landscape and he certainly does not exit the race for a second term 3 months prior to Election Day. He beats the weak and very flawed GOP candidate in a landslide victory.

Quality of candidate is more important than anything else- by far!


As much as Biden had his issues, he never had protests like Trump's already starting to get.



I think those of you who think everything is great with Trump need to get out of your bubble a bit more and start reading the room.


Biden was just an angry elderly man who made for a poor leader. He did nothing to make us go hog wild protesting.

Trump is a divisive know-it-all with zero integrity and he's proven to be a threat to our foundations of government. He's done plenty to make people feel the need to protest.

There is a big difference between a not so good president and a dangerous president.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Dude studied Hitler in college but doesn't understand what's going on with the Sieg Heil or the man who publicly compliments Hitler and has a Mein Kampf souvenir book.

I guess Vance was right about how terrible universities are.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.


And I’m immune to your entitled temper tantrums, child. Sit down and stop cosplaying.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.


And I’m immune to your entitled temper tantrums, child. Sit down and stop cosplaying.


You’ve misused the word “cosplaying” twice.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.


And I’m immune to your entitled temper tantrums, child. Sit down and stop cosplaying.


You’ve misused the word “cosplaying” twice.


I noticed that too. I guess it doesn’t take much to get a degree in history.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.


And I’m immune to your entitled temper tantrums, child. Sit down and stop cosplaying.


You’ve misused the word “cosplaying” twice.


I noticed that too. I guess it doesn’t take much to get a degree in history.


I have a degree in history too and what’s happening is Fascism 101. I think that PP got his degree at Trump University.
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Anonymous wrote:The public wanted the cuts and its being done. You all know full well that a small fraction of the waste/fraud/abuse would end up being cut if it done through endless audits of audits of audits and endless grandstanding bs hearing after hearing kabuki theater. That's one of the many legitimate reasons that the public despises Congress- nothing ever gets done.

The US citizens are smart enough to know that they are done with paying hundreds of billions to illegals while our own citizens lack health insurance and live in the streets. They know that DHS and Pentagon regularly hand out no bid contracts to unethical, opportunistic defense contractors that have cost them more than a trillion dollars in overpayments, terrible work product, not to mention the enrichment of these defense contractors from the taxpayer's money. And the public is appalled that 2.7 trillion of Medicare payments were paid improperly to non-residents and that SS hasnt even de-duped ssns and that decades-ling deceased people are still receiving checks.

They find it outrageous that USAG hasnt been back in the office since covid started almost five years ago and that something like 3% of fed workers of all agencies were back in the office (other than building security/maintenance) since covid stated 5 years ago. It's more proof that the gov is orders of magnitude too large.

Only DCUM could read the details of the billions in bs programs USAID was funding and respond, yeah, that's good. The overwhelming majority of people outside DMV have an extraordinarily negative reaction to that kind of spending when they are busting their butts just to buy groceries.






Let me know when DOGE makes any meaningful cuts at the Pentagon. Something tells me it will be magically immune from all this. Meanwhile he’s trashing people’s careers by cutting things that barely put a tiny dent in our spending. That is the problem with all this — the hypocrisy will become impossible to ignore when you see what isn’t being targeted.


The Pentagon has never passed an audit. The fact that this wasn't the first stop for DOGE tells you everything you need to know.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.


And I’m immune to your entitled temper tantrums, child. Sit down and stop cosplaying.


You’ve misused the word “cosplaying” twice.


I noticed that too. I guess it doesn’t take much to get a degree in history.


I have a degree in history too and what’s happening is Fascism 101. I think that PP got his degree at Trump University.


If you think this is bad, take a gander at the other thread where the Muskrats are talking about genociding the elderly and disabled.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


I’m guessing you must have just scraped through your degree with assistance from others.


Ah, yes, the usual rhetorical refuge of the extreme academic left appears. “I can’t tolerate anyone who disagrees with my viewpoint, so I need to attack the credibility of the messenger.” Of course. 🙄


DP. You are reading far too much into what the PP said. They were just (correctly) implying that you are quite stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.


And I’m immune to your entitled temper tantrums, child. Sit down and stop cosplaying.


You’ve misused the word “cosplaying” twice.


I noticed that too. I guess it doesn’t take much to get a degree in history.


I have a degree in history too and what’s happening is Fascism 101. I think that PP got his degree at Trump University.


So when are you fleeing the country?
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Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?


This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.


This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.


DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.


Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.


Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.


It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.


Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.


Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?


Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.


I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.


You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.


I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.


Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.


I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.


We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.


You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.



In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.



Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.


WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.


For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.


DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.



If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.


Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.


PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.


Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.


You might as well be, for how irrational and unstable you sound.


I’m immune to your gaslighting, psychopath.


And I’m immune to your entitled temper tantrums, child. Sit down and stop cosplaying.


You’ve misused the word “cosplaying” twice.


I noticed that too. I guess it doesn’t take much to get a degree in history.


I have a degree in history too and what’s happening is Fascism 101. I think that PP got his degree at Trump University.


So when are you fleeing the country?


I’m not American and don’t live in the US. Just a concerned citizen of the world.
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