Dark, soulless, cruel energy taking over the USA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The public wanted the cuts and its being done. You all know full well that a small fraction of the waste/fraud/abuse would end up being cut if it done through endless audits of audits of audits and endless grandstanding bs hearing after hearing kabuki theater. That's one of the many legitimate reasons that the public despises Congress- nothing ever gets done.

The US citizens are smart enough to know that they are done with paying hundreds of billions to illegals while our own citizens lack health insurance and live in the streets. They know that DHS and Pentagon regularly hand out no bid contracts to unethical, opportunistic defense contractors that have cost them more than a trillion dollars in overpayments, terrible work product, not to mention the enrichment of these defense contractors from the taxpayer's money. And the public is appalled that 2.7 trillion of Medicare payments were paid improperly to non-residents and that SS hasnt even de-duped ssns and that decades-ling deceased people are still receiving checks.

They find it outrageous that USAG hasnt been back in the office since covid started almost five years ago and that something like 3% of fed workers of all agencies were back in the office (other than building security/maintenance) since covid stated 5 years ago. It's more proof that the gov is orders of magnitude too large.

Only DCUM could read the details of the billions in bs programs USAID was funding and respond, yeah, that's good. The overwhelming majority of people outside DMV have an extraordinarily negative reaction to that kind of spending when they are busting their butts just to buy groceries.

Let me know when DOGE makes any meaningful cuts at the Pentagon. Something tells me it will be magically immune from all this. Meanwhile he’s trashing people’s careers by cutting things that barely put a tiny dent in our spending. That is the problem with all this — the hypocrisy will become impossible to ignore when you see what isn’t being targeted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?

This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.

This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.

DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.

Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.

Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.

It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.

Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.

Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?

Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.

I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.

You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.

I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.

NP

Sorry, what’s your point?

NP the people who say this are the ones out of touch. Biden did more to help the masses than Trump ever did. He did amazing things for the unions, rail workers, auto workers. Biden was actually trying to help the lower middle class and they shived him for it.

Close to a million tech jobs were lost under Biden. There were also 8 million illegal workers that flooded in and took blue collar jobs.

Add in the 20% increase in grocery prices and 30% in rent and Biden did far more harm than good.

That’s why republicans own the presidency, house and senate.

That’s half of it. The bigger half is that the GOP echo system has been duping Americans citizens for the past 2 decades. The right wing media machine has galvanized Americans against Democrats, using wedge issues like trans in ladies bathrooms or sports to drive voters to Trump.

Trump & Musk know their voters are stupid and they know how to play them. It worked beautifully. Behavior is predictable. Republican voters will sign off on anything Musk & Trump do. No matter what.

What a depressingly cynical view of the world. People have agency. Democrats made policy choices and voters have responded to it. The same will be true when the pendulum swings the other way.

No, people actually have a lot less agency than you think. Humans are animals and react predictably to fear filled propaganda. Conservatives and old people in particular are particularly susceptible to being duped. Dem policies are a whole lot more popular than “cut everything that benefits working people to give Elon a tax break”, but those scary dog-eating trans Haitians in locker rooms get them every time.

This just helps you understand, it doesn’t mean they should be exempt or immune from what comes next. You touch a hot stove, you’re going to get burned. It doesn’t matter if you were told and believed your hands were fireproof.

lol... you people are still yammering about how policies may have impacted in the 2024 election. Sure, policies may have accounted for a drop or two in a bucket of reasons why Trump won. The rest of the drops in that bucket all have to do with an incumbent party having an incumbent with a sub 40% job approval rating backing out of the race 3 months prior to Election Day.

An incumbent with a sub 40% approval rating NEVER wins a second term and likely never will. An incumbent party that has to replace their unpopular incumbent with that unpopular incumbent's VP at the last minute has a zero chance of winning. ZERO! But sure, yea, it was "policies".....

You’re just reinforcing my point. Why did Biden have such a low approval rating? Because they truly believed dog eating trans Haitians in locker rooms were taking their entitlements, in between showing young girls their male genitals in locker rooms and conspiring with the Jews on their DEI space lasers. After that mess, no intelligent thought was ever going to cut through the mess of emotions and noise.

Plus, people didn’t want to make love to Kamala. Maybe if she died her hair blonde, stuffed her lips full of fillers, and wore clumpy mascara she would have stood a better chance.

Biden had a low approval rating because he was a poor leader of the people at his elderly age. Obama faced the similar ridiculousness during his presidency. Remember, he was accused of being an America hating Muslim with a fake birth certificate... none of the silly rhetoric prevented him from having a 50% approval rating and easily winning a second term. Plug Obama into the exact same 2021-2024 political and economic landscape and he certainly does not exit the race for a second term 3 months prior to Election Day. He beats the weak and very flawed GOP candidate in a landslide victory.

Quality of candidate is more important than anything else- by far!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The blue hysteria is caused by the fact that the posters or their families are fed/ngo/501c3 grifter(s). These posters have let their selfish personal interest block their connection to reality and apocalyptic musings are nothing more than a smoke screen to block the reality of the grift. DCUM: the 325 million Americans who live outside the DMV, red/blue/purple, are ENRAGED by spectacular fraud, waste and abuse that has been going on in DC for generations in DC (by both parties, btw), they aren't going to pay for all of the fed/ngo/501c3 & defense contractor bullshit anymore, and they are thrilled that Elon, Big Balls and the others are stopping as much of this theft as possible. Good luck with telling the country they are misinformed- they have had it with all of you selfish, entitled people and even though I live here, and am friends with a lot of fed/ngos/501c3 people, I fully understand the country's rage with what goes on here.

You seem to hold the mistaken belief that Musk and his minions are doing this in any sort of thoughtful or knowledgeable way. How do you feel about the fact that some actual important stuff is going away as a result of this effort? Why would you want the cuts to be done so haphazardly? It doesn’t have to be done like this no matter what Musk is saying. Just because he is smart at certain things a doesn’t mean he has any idea what he’s doing with this DOGE effort. He seems to operating with a lot of hubris, unaware of the limits to his own understanding.

If you are cheering at how this is being done, it seems like you’re more interested in watching certain people you have deemed as “the other” suffer than you are in actual effective trimming of government fat.

Its been a month and people talk about DOGE like its a post mortem on failure. Lets see if they meaningfully cut spending in DoD, Department of Education, HHS, etc.

We have a $2T annual deficit, and our largest spending departments cannot pass an audit. We all should be cheering on an attempt to get reckless spending under control.

Trump campaigned on Musk leading this task, voters got what they were advertised (this President Musk BS is absurd). Let’s see if they can deliver, and all hope they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:America as we knew it is over.

People need to start accepting this and figuring out how to move on and move forward with their lives.

This has been a 30+ year campaign by the right and they finally won. The anti-DEI campaign is laying the groundwork for a repeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. We are going back.

I’m no fan of Trump or the current GOP, but this is flat out hyperbole.

It's really not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?

This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.

This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.

DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.

Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.

Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.

It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.

Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.

Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?

Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.

I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.

You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.

I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.

NP

Sorry, what’s your point?

NP the people who say this are the ones out of touch. Biden did more to help the masses than Trump ever did. He did amazing things for the unions, rail workers, auto workers. Biden was actually trying to help the lower middle class and they shived him for it.

Close to a million tech jobs were lost under Biden. There were also 8 million illegal workers that flooded in and took blue collar jobs.

Add in the 20% increase in grocery prices and 30% in rent and Biden did far more harm than good.

That’s why republicans own the presidency, house and senate.

This is false. It wasn't "close to a million" - it was tens of thousands, tops, due to layoffs by Musk at Twitter, as well as some from Amazon and Meta and a few others in 2022 and 2023. Most of them found jobs elsewhere in the tech sector, or in other types of consulting. But since you think this is a huge problem, what do you think of the mass layoffs that Musk is doing, which includes thousands of government tech workers, scientists, and so on?

And no, there weren't millions of out-of-work blue-collar Americans because of illegal workers, either.

And meanwhile grocery prices have increased at an accelerated pace since Trump took office, he doesn't even have a plan to deal with it, and will probably make prices go even higher as he deports ag workers and imposes tariffs.

For all the harm you want to yell about Biden doing, you should be concerned about the fact that Trump is going to be a lot worse harm.

Here’s a bit of news for you: meta, twitter and Amazon aren’t the only tech companies in the US.

Hundreds of thousands, very close to a million white collar jobs were eliminated during the Biden administration. That you won’t acknowledge that reality is why people here have zero empathy with what is happening now with Feds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate Elmo’s stupid accent and ugly face.

Nice jingoism you have there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Elmo’s stupid accent and ugly face.

Nice jingoism you have there.

DP. DEI is gone, baby, haven't you heard? We can say what we want now. Like that DOGE kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?

This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.

This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.

DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.

Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.

Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.

It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.

Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.

Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?

Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.

I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.

You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.

I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.

Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.

I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.

We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.

You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.

In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.

Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.

WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.

For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.

DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.

If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.

Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.

PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.

Sure. And I’m the King of Mars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The blue hysteria is caused by the fact that the posters or their families are fed/ngo/501c3 grifter(s). These posters have let their selfish personal interest block their connection to reality and apocalyptic musings are nothing more than a smoke screen to block the reality of the grift. DCUM: the 325 million Americans who live outside the DMV, red/blue/purple, are ENRAGED by spectacular fraud, waste and abuse that has been going on in DC for generations in DC (by both parties, btw), they aren't going to pay for all of the fed/ngo/501c3 & defense contractor bullshit anymore, and they are thrilled that Elon, Big Balls and the others are stopping as much of this theft as possible. Good luck with telling the country they are misinformed- they have had it with all of you selfish, entitled people and even though I live here, and am friends with a lot of fed/ngos/501c3 people, I fully understand the country's rage with what goes on here.

You seem to hold the mistaken belief that Musk and his minions are doing this in any sort of thoughtful or knowledgeable way. How do you feel about the fact that some actual important stuff is going away as a result of this effort? Why would you want the cuts to be done so haphazardly? It doesn’t have to be done like this no matter what Musk is saying. Just because he is smart at certain things a doesn’t mean he has any idea what he’s doing with this DOGE effort. He seems to operating with a lot of hubris, unaware of the limits to his own understanding.

If you are cheering at how this is being done, it seems like you’re more interested in watching certain people you have deemed as “the other” suffer than you are in actual effective trimming of government fat.

Its been a month and people talk about DOGE like its a post mortem on failure. Lets see if they meaningfully cut spending in DoD, Department of Education, HHS, etc.

We have a $2T annual deficit, and our largest spending departments cannot pass an audit. We all should be cheering on an attempt to get reckless spending under control.

Trump campaigned on Musk leading this task, voters got what they were advertised (this President Musk BS is absurd). Let’s see if they can deliver, and all hope they do.

How do you reconcile this with the proposed tax cuts and adding tens of trillions to the deficits as a result?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?

This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.

This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.

DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.

Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.

Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.

It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.

Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.

Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?

Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.

I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.

You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.

I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.

Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.

I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.

We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.

You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.

In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.

Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.

WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.

For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.

DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.

If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.

Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.

PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.

Hi. Survivor of dictatorship here. The resemblance is uncanny and that's where we are headed in the US

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The blue hysteria is caused by the fact that the posters or their families are fed/ngo/501c3 grifter(s). These posters have let their selfish personal interest block their connection to reality and apocalyptic musings are nothing more than a smoke screen to block the reality of the grift. DCUM: the 325 million Americans who live outside the DMV, red/blue/purple, are ENRAGED by spectacular fraud, waste and abuse that has been going on in DC for generations in DC (by both parties, btw), they aren't going to pay for all of the fed/ngo/501c3 & defense contractor bullshit anymore, and they are thrilled that Elon, Big Balls and the others are stopping as much of this theft as possible. Good luck with telling the country they are misinformed- they have had it with all of you selfish, entitled people and even though I live here, and am friends with a lot of fed/ngos/501c3 people, I fully understand the country's rage with what goes on here.

You seem to hold the mistaken belief that Musk and his minions are doing this in any sort of thoughtful or knowledgeable way. How do you feel about the fact that some actual important stuff is going away as a result of this effort? Why would you want the cuts to be done so haphazardly? It doesn’t have to be done like this no matter what Musk is saying. Just because he is smart at certain things a doesn’t mean he has any idea what he’s doing with this DOGE effort. He seems to operating with a lot of hubris, unaware of the limits to his own understanding.

If you are cheering at how this is being done, it seems like you’re more interested in watching certain people you have deemed as “the other” suffer than you are in actual effective trimming of government fat.

Its been a month and people talk about DOGE like its a post mortem on failure. Lets see if they meaningfully cut spending in DoD, Department of Education, HHS, etc.

We have a $2T annual deficit, and our largest spending departments cannot pass an audit. We all should be cheering on an attempt to get reckless spending under control.

Trump campaigned on Musk leading this task, voters got what they were advertised (this President Musk BS is absurd). Let’s see if they can deliver, and all hope they do.

How do you reconcile this with the proposed tax cuts and adding tens of trillions to the deficits as a result?

Tax cuts to people who already are awash in cash, and hence, will not be spent to grow the economy. If you want to juice the economy, its well established that tax cuts should go to the bottom economic tier, since that money will be spent immediately on basic needs. Giving additional tax cuts to the rich does nothing, since it will simply be squirreled away in cash or offshore investments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?

This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.

This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.

DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.

Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.

Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.

It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.

Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.

Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?

Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.

I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.

You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.

I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.

Yeah, no. The fact that you don't understand why people are anxious about what is going on since Trump took office says otherwise.

I absolutely understand it. I share some of the concerns. But I am not having apocalyptic fantasies about what is going on like a lot of people in this thread. The level of panicking in this thread (and on DCUM in general) does not match what the rest of the country is experiencing. It just doesn’t. And the sooner DCUM’s out-of-touch wealthy liberals can understand that, the closer we are to a Democratic Party that might have a chance of ever winning an election again.

What you do not seem to understand, what a lot of DCUM doesn’t understand, is that much of the country, including blue states, are doing okay right now. And this constant doomerism is just shutting down discussion. Plus, the DCUM Democrats are just too much like the boy who cried wolf. You have been calling Trump “Hitler” for eight years now. Normal people just tune you out at this point.

I think there are serious issues going on with Trump. But DCUM’s brand of solipsistic and indulgent screaming about Hitler is useless.

We’re more panicked because we’re more informed. It will take decades to undo this damage if we recover at all. SO much waste.

Just because Joe Smith in rural Kansas doesn’t understand that DOGE isn’t a real thing and Elon isn’t allowed to hack our systems doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.

Even now, so many people saying “I didn’t see this coming”. How? Lots of us did. Because we are informed and we read history and real news. So maybe stop writing these people off as “screaming” and listen to them.

You are hopeless. The Democrats are just useless at this point. It is utterly depressing how the party loyalists cannot see how out-of-touch they are with the country.

In 1939 there was a motto, "Germany is Hitler, Hitler is Germany.” I bet that they wished that more “out of touch” Germans had spoken up.

Oh for Pete’s sake. Seek help.

WTF is it going to take for you people to wake up? Literally starving? Because that's coming. What do you think tariffs, deportations, mismanagement of bird flu, firing of farm inspectors and sudden lack of potash is going to do to our food supply? I hope you like to garden.

For how many years have you been telling us Trump is Hitler now? Has it been nine full years yet?

You sound insane to normies, you know. And I no Trump fan. Just a Democrat that actually wants to win an election again.

DP. People who live in other parts of the world are finally paying attention to US politics and have compared the US today to 1930s Germany.

It’s not “insane” to anyone who is assessing current events critically.

If you are talking endlessly about how Trump is Hitler, but have not made any move to immediately leave the US, you are perceived as a hypocritical nutcase. Sorry to break it to you, but those of us who have actual war refugees in our families despise people like you who cosplay totalitarianism to satisfy your untreated anxiety disorder.

Example 38373662637484 of these people showing their absolute ignorance of history outside of 1944. You don’t get the reference because you blew off history, psychology, anthropology, and literature as “a waste” in college.

PP here. I graduated with a degree in history specialized in World War Two Europe, particularly fascist states such as Germany.

Your self-centered and embarrassing hysteria is absolutely insulting to people who have survived actual fascist regimes. Stop cosplaying. It’s truly pathetic behavior.

I’m guessing you must have just scraped through your degree with assistance from others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The blue hysteria is caused by the fact that the posters or their families are fed/ngo/501c3 grifter(s). These posters have let their selfish personal interest block their connection to reality and apocalyptic musings are nothing more than a smoke screen to block the reality of the grift. DCUM: the 325 million Americans who live outside the DMV, red/blue/purple, are ENRAGED by spectacular fraud, waste and abuse that has been going on in DC for generations in DC (by both parties, btw), they aren't going to pay for all of the fed/ngo/501c3 & defense contractor bullshit anymore, and they are thrilled that Elon, Big Balls and the others are stopping as much of this theft as possible. Good luck with telling the country they are misinformed- they have had it with all of you selfish, entitled people and even though I live here, and am friends with a lot of fed/ngos/501c3 people, I fully understand the country's rage with what goes on here.

You seem to hold the mistaken belief that Musk and his minions are doing this in any sort of thoughtful or knowledgeable way. How do you feel about the fact that some actual important stuff is going away as a result of this effort? Why would you want the cuts to be done so haphazardly? It doesn’t have to be done like this no matter what Musk is saying. Just because he is smart at certain things a doesn’t mean he has any idea what he’s doing with this DOGE effort. He seems to operating with a lot of hubris, unaware of the limits to his own understanding.

If you are cheering at how this is being done, it seems like you’re more interested in watching certain people you have deemed as “the other” suffer than you are in actual effective trimming of government fat.

Its been a month and people talk about DOGE like its a post mortem on failure. Lets see if they meaningfully cut spending in DoD, Department of Education, HHS, etc.

We have a $2T annual deficit, and our largest spending departments cannot pass an audit. We all should be cheering on an attempt to get reckless spending under control.

Trump campaigned on Musk leading this task, voters got what they were advertised (this President Musk BS is absurd). Let’s see if they can deliver, and all hope they do.

How do you reconcile this with the proposed tax cuts and adding tens of trillions to the deficits as a result?

Exactly. It’s crystal clear that cutting expenses is not the true aim of DOGE. If it were, there wouldn’t be tax cuts on the table and Trump wouldn’t be jetting off to the Super Bowl or NASCAR races or to MAL at the cost of millions to the tax payer.

The point is to cripple the government. The more it becomes dysfunctional, the more people will hate it and therefore look to an autocrat (Trump) to make decisions. Secondarily, the private sector can step in and certain people will make a ton of money doing the government’s job. This may sound good to you, but you won’t benefit, just a few already rich people who will become even richer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?

This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.

This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.

DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.

Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.

Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.

It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.

Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.

Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?

Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.

I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.

You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.

I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.

NP

Sorry, what’s your point?

NP the people who say this are the ones out of touch. Biden did more to help the masses than Trump ever did. He did amazing things for the unions, rail workers, auto workers. Biden was actually trying to help the lower middle class and they shived him for it.

Close to a million tech jobs were lost under Biden. There were also 8 million illegal workers that flooded in and took blue collar jobs.

Add in the 20% increase in grocery prices and 30% in rent and Biden did far more harm than good.

That’s why republicans own the presidency, house and senate.

That’s half of it. The bigger half is that the GOP echo system has been duping Americans citizens for the past 2 decades. The right wing media machine has galvanized Americans against Democrats, using wedge issues like trans in ladies bathrooms or sports to drive voters to Trump.

Trump & Musk know their voters are stupid and they know how to play them. It worked beautifully. Behavior is predictable. Republican voters will sign off on anything Musk & Trump do. No matter what.

What a depressingly cynical view of the world. People have agency. Democrats made policy choices and voters have responded to it. The same will be true when the pendulum swings the other way.

No, people actually have a lot less agency than you think. Humans are animals and react predictably to fear filled propaganda. Conservatives and old people in particular are particularly susceptible to being duped. Dem policies are a whole lot more popular than “cut everything that benefits working people to give Elon a tax break”, but those scary dog-eating trans Haitians in locker rooms get them every time.

This just helps you understand, it doesn’t mean they should be exempt or immune from what comes next. You touch a hot stove, you’re going to get burned. It doesn’t matter if you were told and believed your hands were fireproof.

lol... you people are still yammering about how policies may have impacted in the 2024 election. Sure, policies may have accounted for a drop or two in a bucket of reasons why Trump won. The rest of the drops in that bucket all have to do with an incumbent party having an incumbent with a sub 40% job approval rating backing out of the race 3 months prior to Election Day.

An incumbent with a sub 40% approval rating NEVER wins a second term and likely never will. An incumbent party that has to replace their unpopular incumbent with that unpopular incumbent's VP at the last minute has a zero chance of winning. ZERO! But sure, yea, it was "policies".....

You’re just reinforcing my point. Why did Biden have such a low approval rating? Because they truly believed dog eating trans Haitians in locker rooms were taking their entitlements, in between showing young girls their male genitals in locker rooms and conspiring with the Jews on their DEI space lasers. After that mess, no intelligent thought was ever going to cut through the mess of emotions and noise.

Plus, people didn’t want to make love to Kamala. Maybe if she died her hair blonde, stuffed her lips full of fillers, and wore clumpy mascara she would have stood a better chance.

Biden had a low approval rating because he was a poor leader of the people at his elderly age. Obama faced the similar ridiculousness during his presidency. Remember, he was accused of being an America hating Muslim with a fake birth certificate... none of the silly rhetoric prevented him from having a 50% approval rating and easily winning a second term. Plug Obama into the exact same 2021-2024 political and economic landscape and he certainly does not exit the race for a second term 3 months prior to Election Day. He beats the weak and very flawed GOP candidate in a landslide victory.

Quality of candidate is more important than anything else- by far!

As much as Biden had his issues, he never had protests like Trump's already starting to get.

I think those of you who think everything is great with Trump need to get out of your bubble a bit more and start reading the room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM lives in a little bubble. The country overwhelmingly favors gutting the federal gov and that support has materially increased since Elon and Big Balls have revealed the craziness of where the taxpayer dollars are going. Do you think black females in inner city communities that vote blue support spending tens of billions on illegals when our their own people are sleeping in the street?

This is silly.

I live outside the Beltway.

I’m a straight cis person with a house of worship.

None of the people in my circle has a government job. I’m the lowest-income person I know, but I’m the most familiar with and the most sympathetic toward libertarian arguments. I can respect the idea of Elon Musk or someone like that trying to analyze and streamline spending, with some freedom from the usual red tape.

But my friends are all completely terrified by what the Trump-Musk-Vance tri-archs are doing to federal employees, the way they’re ignoring ALL federal laws and procedures, and what the tri-archs are doing to the Treasury, our military and iur relationship with the EU.

We’re petrified about what this means for other kinds of everyday freedoms.

If we seem quiet, I think that’s because the assumption is that the tri-archs have probably hacked all of our phones and have us under surveillance. I don’t think this is a situation where people can participate much in meaningful demonstrations and stay alive. I think the only possible hope is that patriotic Republicans in Washington figure something out.

This is crazy. I live in a deep blue area across the country from DC and nobody I know thinks or believes this. You need anxiety treatment.

DP... You are either deeply out of touch or are trying a futile gaslighting attempt. I have friends all over the country, most of whom are not federal employees and there are significant ripples of concern and anxiety rippling all across the nation right now. Tonight one friend just posted a heartbreaking story about how she packed up and fled her own hometown in Wisconsin because of a flood of anti-LGBTQ messages that she suddenly started getting. People are scared, angry, upset in ways I have never seen before in my 55+ years as an American.

Well, let’s see. Today I went to a community soccer game where the dominant language by far was Spanish. I bought elote from a cart as usual. I then met friends for dinner in a super packed restaurant. Nobody was freaking out the entire time.

What I read on DCUM bears no resemblance to what I live every day. And I suspect I am far more in touch with ordinary Americans than you are.

Dp here.
The simple-mindedness of maga is what got us in this situation. Sure, people are trying to go about their lives. That doesn’t mean they aren’t extremely worried. I bet if you had gone around and interviewed people, you would have found most of them to be very concerned. The fact that you made it out of your house and that there appears to be Spanish-speaking people still able to function and run their taco truck does not mean all is well. What a weird take.

It’s extremely typical of DCUM’s wealthy isolated Democrats that you assumed the folks at the game with me aren’t my friends and I wasn’t having extensive conversations in Spanish with them. You can’t actually imagine being friends with Latino immigrants, can you? That’s so far out of your realm of understanding that it didn’t even cross your mind.

The point is that I’m in a community that’s far more vulnerable than you and your other fellow DCUM headcases are, and they are not freaked out the way you are. Get yourself together. The solipsism of this thread is embarrassing.

Your comments are actually sad b/c it's coming for them and they don't even realize it.

Ah, yes. The wealthy white liberal DCUM poster definitely knows better than impacted community members themselves. They should just listen to your superior wisdom.

God, do you even hear yourselves?

Do you hear YOURSELF? Why do you assume the poster is liberal or wealthy? Lots of people are speaking out. Listen to farmers. Listen to service workers. Listen to low paid fed, 85% of which live outside of the DC area. You have literally no idea what Yorkers talking about. I'm so sick of you loud mouth idiots telling the rest of us what to think.

I’m not telling anyone what to think. I am saying the navel-gazing and solipsism in this thread are embarrassing and typical of out-of-touch wealthy liberals, so that is a reasonable guess.

You know what? This is why I am happy to see Trumpers suffer. The irony about MAGA talking about navel gazing. LOLOLOL. DP.

I’m the PP and I voted for Harris. I despise most of what Trump is doing (but like many Americans, not all). But I also knew Trump was going to win months in advance, precisely because of Democratic navel-gazing.

Whatever. You’d think DCUM Democrats would have learned just how wildly out-of-touch and sealed off they are on election night, but apparently not. Carry on, I guess.

NP

Sorry, what’s your point?

NP the people who say this are the ones out of touch. Biden did more to help the masses than Trump ever did. He did amazing things for the unions, rail workers, auto workers. Biden was actually trying to help the lower middle class and they shived him for it.

Close to a million tech jobs were lost under Biden. There were also 8 million illegal workers that flooded in and took blue collar jobs.

Add in the 20% increase in grocery prices and 30% in rent and Biden did far more harm than good.

That’s why republicans own the presidency, house and senate.

This is false. It wasn't "close to a million" - it was tens of thousands, tops, due to layoffs by Musk at Twitter, as well as some from Amazon and Meta and a few others in 2022 and 2023. Most of them found jobs elsewhere in the tech sector, or in other types of consulting. But since you think this is a huge problem, what do you think of the mass layoffs that Musk is doing, which includes thousands of government tech workers, scientists, and so on?

And no, there weren't millions of out-of-work blue-collar Americans because of illegal workers, either.

And meanwhile grocery prices have increased at an accelerated pace since Trump took office, he doesn't even have a plan to deal with it, and will probably make prices go even higher as he deports ag workers and imposes tariffs.

For all the harm you want to yell about Biden doing, you should be concerned about the fact that Trump is going to be a lot worse harm.

Here’s a bit of news for you: meta, twitter and Amazon aren’t the only tech companies in the US.

Hundreds of thousands, very close to a million white collar jobs were eliminated during the Biden administration. That you won’t acknowledge that reality is why people here have zero empathy with what is happening now with Feds.

Explain how the Biden administration is responsible for the loss of those tech jobs. For example, some foreign billionaire AH buying a functioning tech company and subsequently laying off most of its workforce out of spite isn’t the fault of the Biden administration, even if it occurred during the Biden administration.

A counter example (in which the job losses ARE the fault of the contemporaneous administration) would be a sitting President appointing some foreign billionaire AH with explicit instructions to lay off X% of the Federal workforce out of spite.