It's official: Gen Z are not delaying marriage til 30s anymore, young weddings are cool again

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny that old people think that women shouldn't get married until after 30, so controlling

I think my kids should get married whenever they feel like they’ve met someone they want to marry. If that’s at 22, so be it. But I’m getting the sense that the posters who are most supportive of young marriages are the controlling ones. These are the parents who have carefully controlled their kids’ friendships since preschool, making sure they only ever mix with the “right” families. The marriage to the appropriate partner is essentially what they’ve been building up to.

I mean, this sounds “controlling” to you but it sounds smart to me? After a certain age we know that kids’ peers have more influence on them than their parents. Trying to make sure your kids interact with kids whose parents share your particular values just seems like common sense.

Of course I want my kid with an appropriate partner- don’t you?? I mean, be honest with yourself, would you be happy to be mother of the bride at Lana del Ray’s bayou wedding? I would not.

Can you all conceive of real relationships without comparing to celebrities?

And it doesn’t just sound controlling, it is controlling. I trust my kids to figure what an appropriate partner means to them. Just as both my parents and my IL’s did for my husband and me. If our parents had exerted any kind of control on the type of people we married, we probably would have ended up with very different people, and we would have been miserable.

Celebrities and rich influencers are the Generation Z trendsetters. Trends spread like wildfire on TikTok and Instagram. Millie, Sophia Ritchie, and Joey King have over 100 million followers. If you don’t think young people are influenced when they see these gorgeous weddings and the young rich wife/mom aesthetic you are in denial. The wisest college kids are dating to marry and are repelled at the idea of being unmarried and childless at 30 — or using an app to meet a husband.

No, the wisest college kids are there for academic and professional pursuits. MS not MRS.

I’m not sure why you believe finding a good partner would negate this somehow. My smartest classmates did.

Because the goal of college is to learn and develop skills. Not get a husband.

Yes but also not required to put your life on hold and wait for settling with someone from an app at 37, you don't need to immediately marry and have kids but you certainly can date with intention to commit if you find a good partner.

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny that old people think that women shouldn't get married until after 30, so controlling

I think my kids should get married whenever they feel like they’ve met someone they want to marry. If that’s at 22, so be it. But I’m getting the sense that the posters who are most supportive of young marriages are the controlling ones. These are the parents who have carefully controlled their kids’ friendships since preschool, making sure they only ever mix with the “right” families. The marriage to the appropriate partner is essentially what they’ve been building up to.

I mean, this sounds “controlling” to you but it sounds smart to me? After a certain age we know that kids’ peers have more influence on them than their parents. Trying to make sure your kids interact with kids whose parents share your particular values just seems like common sense.

Of course I want my kid with an appropriate partner- don’t you?? I mean, be honest with yourself, would you be happy to be mother of the bride at Lana del Ray’s bayou wedding? I would not.

Can you all conceive of real relationships without comparing to celebrities?

And it doesn’t just sound controlling, it is controlling. I trust my kids to figure what an appropriate partner means to them. Just as both my parents and my IL’s did for my husband and me. If our parents had exerted any kind of control on the type of people we married, we probably would have ended up with very different people, and we would have been miserable.

Celebrities and rich influencers are the Generation Z trendsetters. Trends spread like wildfire on TikTok and Instagram. Millie, Sophia Ritchie, and Joey King have over 100 million followers. If you don’t think young people are influenced when they see these gorgeous weddings and the young rich wife/mom aesthetic you are in denial. The wisest college kids are dating to marry and are repelled at the idea of being unmarried and childless at 30 — or using an app to meet a husband.

No, the wisest college kids are there for academic and professional pursuits. MS not MRS.

They’re ambitious overachievers. They are doing both. Our 23 year old niece is at a top 10 law school and is engaged to be married next summer to a boy she met in undergrad.

She’ll probably only have kids after 30 though.

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Its a bad idea.

Married at 19

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Anonymous wrote:waiting until you are 40 to have kids, college graduation picture!

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Mommy was a girl boss who waited 15 years to have kids because she was too busy with zoom meetings, emails, PowerPoints, spreadsheets, drunken happy hours and earning airline status.

I’ll take spreadsheets and frequent flyer miles over Gilead. Thanks.

Same.

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Those pesky facts from a May 2024 article:

The world that millennials and Gen Z live in is vastly different from the one that their parents and grandparents grew up in. One aspect of modern life that has significantly changed is marriage: Younger generations are settling down at a much older age than what was commonplace in the past. Research suggests that getting married in your early 20s was the norm in the mid-1900s. Now, millennials, a cohort of people born between 1981 and 1996, and Gen Z, those with a birthdate from 1997 to 2012, are waiting until their late 20s and early 30s to say “I do.”

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Anonymous wrote:waiting until you are 40 to have kids, college graduation picture!

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Mommy was a girl boss who waited 15 years to have kids because she was too busy with zoom meetings, emails, PowerPoints, spreadsheets, drunken happy hours and earning airline status.

I’ll take spreadsheets and frequent flyer miles over Gilead. Thanks.

Equating having kids as a married person in your 20s to Gilead is some major, major copium. Come on now.

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Gilead reference. I’m begging you idiots to read a second book in your life. (Though more likely you only saw it on TV).

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Anonymous wrote:Have at it, Gen Z and parents. Everything old is new again. They can know the "problem with no name" like my mom and other post-WWII era SAHMs did. Oh, and tell them to read Fascinating Womanhood, also on many mothers' bookshelves.

Same for the men. They can look forward to being tethered to someone for life who, most likely, will quickly lose interest in frequent sex, pester them about inane bullsht, and not let them do fun sht anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet all these young folks divorce. No one has the tenacity for marriage anymore. People put their own “journey” before the hardcore commitment a marriage takes. Everyone is so opinionated and sure of themselves. Let’s see these marriages in a decade. There is no residency in this generation.

Only a damaged, bitter, and jaded person sees beautiful wedding photos of a gorgeous young couple and impulsively predicts (let’s be honest, you hope for) a divorce. I honestly feel sorry for you and anyone else spamming similar. You’re projecting your own baggage onto these madly in love and glowing young people.

I’m being real. You should, too.

The divorce rate is already 55%. And with Me Too and women not taking any perceived sht anymore from men, obsessive “self-care”, young people’s obsession with mental health and proudly wearing their anxiety on their sleeve, and just normal trends, we’re going to see many of these young marriages fail. I’m sorry you can’t handle reality.

I can tell you’re either never married or still bitter about your own messy divorce. Throwing around the alleged 55% divorce rate in this context is ignorant. Affluent college educated people who marry early have the most successful marriages, according to the data.

I’m married, but I also exist on planet earth. The average married person is not that happy. I feel you have a hard time grasping reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Isolate the cohort this forum cares about. The divorce rate of college educated UMC and UC young adults who walked down the aisle between the ages of 22 to 26 with someone they dated in college is closer to 10%.

I doubt that statistic is valid. Source?

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Anonymous wrote:Have at it, Gen Z and parents. Everything old is new again. They can know the "problem with no name" like my mom and other post-WWII era SAHMs did. Oh, and tell them to read Fascinating Womanhood, also on many mothers' bookshelves.

Same for the men. They can look forward to being tethered to someone for life who, most likely, will quickly lose interest in frequent sex, pester them about inane bullsht, and not let them do fun sht anymore.

Yes, have it. Have four kids by the time you are 29 and enjoy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm definitely not going to read the entire 18 page thread, and someone likely has made this point already, but it takes a very . . . special kind of intellect to read that two very affluent, successful 20-somethings are getting married and draw sweeping conclusions about an entire generation from that.

Said more succinctly . . . OP, you're an idiot.

Are they even both successful? She is a successful former child actress who seems to be bankable as an adult. He is a nepo baby who does … modeling?

Right? This will last 9 years, tops. Just like Bieber. None of these people will be together in a decade. No one can do it anymore. People just give no fks these days.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet all these young folks divorce. No one has the tenacity for marriage anymore. People put their own “journey” before the hardcore commitment a marriage takes. Everyone is so opinionated and sure of themselves. Let’s see these marriages in a decade. There is no residency in this generation.

Only a damaged, bitter, and jaded person sees beautiful wedding photos of a gorgeous young couple and impulsively predicts (let’s be honest, you hope for) a divorce. I honestly feel sorry for you and anyone else spamming similar. You’re projecting your own baggage onto these madly in love and glowing young people.

Or someone who is good at statistics. How many Hollywood marriages last more than 10 years? How many Hollywood marriages of people under 25 last more than 10 years. Can you name a single one? I don’t think I can.
I’m actually happy for them. Liz Taylor once made a comment that people should feel glad for her that she fell in love so many times. It’s a wonderful sign of hope — these people willing to say “I love you” even knowing it probably won’t last. If you spend your life waiting for the person that will be “forever” you might just spend your life alone. These people are super rich so there’s really no downside to a 5 year or 10 year marriage. If it lasts longer, great! Hope it does!

What do the statistics say about unmarried American millennials?

- depressed
- abusing SSRIs and alcohol and weed
- addicted to video games and online gambling
- high suicide rate
- highest ever % living at home with parents
- don’t have a pot to piss in
- record low birth rate, under replacement levels
- will probably never own a house
- doom swiping dating apps

I’m sure they’re all glad they pissed away their college years and prime 20s not dating to marry when they had a chance. Gen Z has wised up.

Yes, they’re so evolved compared to the ignorant “cavemen” that came before them. Older people know nothing and have no wisdom to share about marriage.

They definitely won’t get divorced. Everyone stays the same as they did when they were twenty fking two years old.

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Anonymous wrote:Have at it, Gen Z and parents. Everything old is new again. They can know the "problem with no name" like my mom and other post-WWII era SAHMs did. Oh, and tell them to read Fascinating Womanhood, also on many mothers' bookshelves.

Same for the men. They can look forward to being tethered to someone for life who, most likely, will quickly lose interest in frequent sex, pester them about inane bullsht, and not let them do fun sht anymore.

I'd be shocked if the "high quality" men in major metro areas DCUM loves have changed so much in the past 10 years since I was dating that they're down with getting married at 22. I think even if a woman was hellbent on early marriage, but dating in NYC/DC/London etc. it would be nearly impossible unless they were part of some subgroup (probably religious) where early marriage was the norm OR they were ok with dating 10+ years older. All those finance/law/etc types were marrying from around 28-34.

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So they're emulating young, wealthy, Hollywood couples?

Does Bon Jovi's kid even work or does he live off of dad? His own parents have been together since HS, but the only reason it's been successful is because the lifestyle was worth it to the wife to look the other way...