Lebanon / Israel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).

What on earth are you talking about? The targets were terrorists. Mission accomplished. Do you even understand what Hezbollah is?

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Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

Yes.

Hamas needs to surrender and disband.

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Amazing that we’re still negotiating with terrorists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).

What on earth are you talking about? The targets were terrorists. Mission accomplished. Do you even understand what Hezbollah is?

People like PP love terrorist groups, so long as they’re killing Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.

DP. I totally agree that no one should be celebrating anyone's injury or death. (That's exactly the same awful inhumanity shown by the people who celebrated after 10/7).

Separately, the bolded is just flatly incorrect. Hamas has clearly been severely, perhaps irreparably, damaged. It has lost personnel, leadership, and much of its infrastructure. It is far, far less capable than it was on 10/7.

The injured were terrorists. This was a very targeted surgical strike. Very different from people handing out candy celebrating the deaths and rapes of Israeli citizens. Celebrate would not be the word but these terrorists hizbollah deserved their just desserts.

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Absolutely. I applaud whoever came up with this plan. Genius.

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Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.

DP. I totally agree that no one should be celebrating anyone's injury or death. (That's exactly the same awful inhumanity shown by the people who celebrated after 10/7).

Separately, the bolded is just flatly incorrect. Hamas has clearly been severely, perhaps irreparably, damaged. It has lost personnel, leadership, and much of its infrastructure. It is far, far less capable than it was on 10/7.

The injured were terrorists. This was a very targeted surgical strike. Very different from people handing out candy celebrating the deaths and rapes of Israeli citizens. Celebrate would not be the word but these terrorists hizbollah deserved their just desserts.

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Absolutely. I applaud whoever came up with this plan. Genius.

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So easy to identify a terrorist now, if they're still living. They're missing a limb or part of a hip.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cannot fight two ground wars at the same time. This operation just ended the risk that Israel would need to engage Hezbollah in a ground war. Hezbollah has been continually escalating for the past six months and it was getting dangerously close to Israel being pulled into a 2nd war or - at the very least - a sustained air campaign that would have catastrophic effects on Lebanese civilians.

This pager sabotage operation actually saved many thousands of civilian lives on both side of the border.

Further, it needs to be reiterated that Hezbollah just killed 12 Druze children playing soccer on a playground in northern Israel just last month with their rockets.

Yes, war sucks.

Hezbollah has said multiple times they will stop the rocket attacks if there is a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israel has killed over 150 civilians in Lebanon in the past 11 months. That is civilians, not Hezbollah.

That number includes a journalist for Reuters, paramedics, and many children.

I don't think the life of an Israeli kid is worth more than a Druze kid or a Lebanese kid or a Palestinian kid.

The best way to stop the Lebanon and Israel war is to get a ceasefire in Gaza. Which Netanyahu and his cronies don't want.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-airstrike-nabatiyeh-294288635bb489fdefd8d36978651554
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-strike-killed-clearly-identifiable-reuters-reporter-un-report-2024-03-13/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-paramedics-killed-israeli-strike-border-fighting-intensifies-2024-09-07/

Let's at least be honest about recent history--the first rocket attack from Hezbollah after October 7th came on October 8th. Israel hadn't even finished assessing the damage from the day before, let alone begun their movement into Gaza at that point. So while I absolutely support a ceasefire, I also will not give Hezbollah some kind of pass for being anything other than a terrorist organization that saw October 7th as the excuse they needed to attack Israel as soon and as often as they could.

Ah yes, history started on October 7th, please ignore every Israel attack against Lebanon (and the West bank, and Syria, and Iran) before then.

Let's also ignore 1947-48, when Arabs and Palestinians launched a war to annihilate Israel on the very day it was created.

That act of violence is the original sin that has given rise to everything since.

Competes with Hitler's invasion of Russia for the most idiotic move of the 20th century.

Let's go back to July 22, 1946 when the terrorist Zionists bombed the King David hotel - pretending to be Arabs in hopes that the British Military would vacate... Then let us ask ourselves what other atrocities and lies we may have missed...

We could even go back further into the early 1900s when Jews moved to Palestinian lands often times taking their land and houses by force. You know, because God said they could. Since He “chose” them over everyone else.

It was never sovereign Palestinian land. There has never been a sovereign Palestine.

At that time it was under British colonial occupation. The “West” has been f**king with that part of the world for many decades. They helped create the state of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians who were living on that land for centuries.

Jews were living there too. You people always forget that. Jews never actually left. Some did, but not all.

And the Palestinians weren't exactly kind to the Jews living amonst them.

[Anonymous]

Israel doesn't respect anyone who isn't Jewish or kissing their ass, and one can only hope they get a taste of their own medicine soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cannot fight two ground wars at the same time. This operation just ended the risk that Israel would need to engage Hezbollah in a ground war. Hezbollah has been continually escalating for the past six months and it was getting dangerously close to Israel being pulled into a 2nd war or - at the very least - a sustained air campaign that would have catastrophic effects on Lebanese civilians.

This pager sabotage operation actually saved many thousands of civilian lives on both side of the border.

Further, it needs to be reiterated that Hezbollah just killed 12 Druze children playing soccer on a playground in northern Israel just last month with their rockets.

Yes, war sucks.

Hezbollah has said multiple times they will stop the rocket attacks if there is a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israel has killed over 150 civilians in Lebanon in the past 11 months. That is civilians, not Hezbollah.

That number includes a journalist for Reuters, paramedics, and many children.

I don't think the life of an Israeli kid is worth more than a Druze kid or a Lebanese kid or a Palestinian kid.

The best way to stop the Lebanon and Israel war is to get a ceasefire in Gaza. Which Netanyahu and his cronies don't want.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-airstrike-nabatiyeh-294288635bb489fdefd8d36978651554
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-strike-killed-clearly-identifiable-reuters-reporter-un-report-2024-03-13/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-paramedics-killed-israeli-strike-border-fighting-intensifies-2024-09-07/

Let's at least be honest about recent history--the first rocket attack from Hezbollah after October 7th came on October 8th. Israel hadn't even finished assessing the damage from the day before, let alone begun their movement into Gaza at that point. So while I absolutely support a ceasefire, I also will not give Hezbollah some kind of pass for being anything other than a terrorist organization that saw October 7th as the excuse they needed to attack Israel as soon and as often as they could.

Ah yes, history started on October 7th, please ignore every Israel attack against Lebanon (and the West bank, and Syria, and Iran) before then.

Let's also ignore 1947-48, when Arabs and Palestinians launched a war to annihilate Israel on the very day it was created.

That act of violence is the original sin that has given rise to everything since.

Competes with Hitler's invasion of Russia for the most idiotic move of the 20th century.

Let's go back to July 22, 1946 when the terrorist Zionists bombed the King David hotel - pretending to be Arabs in hopes that the British Military would vacate... Then let us ask ourselves what other atrocities and lies we may have missed...

We could even go back further into the early 1900s when Jews moved to Palestinian lands often times taking their land and houses by force. You know, because God said they could. Since He “chose” them over everyone else.

It was never sovereign Palestinian land. There has never been a sovereign Palestine.

At that time it was under British colonial occupation. The “West” has been f**king with that part of the world for many decades. They helped create the state of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians who were living on that land for centuries.

Jews were living there too. You people always forget that. Jews never actually left. Some did, but not all.

And the Palestinians weren't exactly kind to the Jews living amonst them.

Before the Jews kicked them out of their houses, they treated the Jews a lot better than Israel has treated the Palestinians for the last 70+ years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.

DP. I totally agree that no one should be celebrating anyone's injury or death. (That's exactly the same awful inhumanity shown by the people who celebrated after 10/7).

Separately, the bolded is just flatly incorrect. Hamas has clearly been severely, perhaps irreparably, damaged. It has lost personnel, leadership, and much of its infrastructure. It is far, far less capable than it was on 10/7.

The injured were terrorists. This was a very targeted surgical strike. Very different from people handing out candy celebrating the deaths and rapes of Israeli citizens. Celebrate would not be the word but these terrorists hizbollah deserved their just desserts.

+100
Absolutely. I applaud whoever came up with this plan. Genius.

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So easy to identify a terrorist now, if they're still living. They're missing a limb or part of a hip.

Or their manhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cannot fight two ground wars at the same time. This operation just ended the risk that Israel would need to engage Hezbollah in a ground war. Hezbollah has been continually escalating for the past six months and it was getting dangerously close to Israel being pulled into a 2nd war or - at the very least - a sustained air campaign that would have catastrophic effects on Lebanese civilians.

This pager sabotage operation actually saved many thousands of civilian lives on both side of the border.

Further, it needs to be reiterated that Hezbollah just killed 12 Druze children playing soccer on a playground in northern Israel just last month with their rockets.

Yes, war sucks.

Hezbollah has said multiple times they will stop the rocket attacks if there is a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israel has killed over 150 civilians in Lebanon in the past 11 months. That is civilians, not Hezbollah.

That number includes a journalist for Reuters, paramedics, and many children.

I don't think the life of an Israeli kid is worth more than a Druze kid or a Lebanese kid or a Palestinian kid.

The best way to stop the Lebanon and Israel war is to get a ceasefire in Gaza. Which Netanyahu and his cronies don't want.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-airstrike-nabatiyeh-294288635bb489fdefd8d36978651554
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-strike-killed-clearly-identifiable-reuters-reporter-un-report-2024-03-13/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-paramedics-killed-israeli-strike-border-fighting-intensifies-2024-09-07/

Why is Hezbollah getting involved outside of lebanon they shouldn't be attacking other countries, not logical

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cannot fight two ground wars at the same time. This operation just ended the risk that Israel would need to engage Hezbollah in a ground war. Hezbollah has been continually escalating for the past six months and it was getting dangerously close to Israel being pulled into a 2nd war or - at the very least - a sustained air campaign that would have catastrophic effects on Lebanese civilians.

This pager sabotage operation actually saved many thousands of civilian lives on both side of the border.

Further, it needs to be reiterated that Hezbollah just killed 12 Druze children playing soccer on a playground in northern Israel just last month with their rockets.

Yes, war sucks.

Hezbollah has said multiple times they will stop the rocket attacks if there is a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israel has killed over 150 civilians in Lebanon in the past 11 months. That is civilians, not Hezbollah.

That number includes a journalist for Reuters, paramedics, and many children.

I don't think the life of an Israeli kid is worth more than a Druze kid or a Lebanese kid or a Palestinian kid.

The best way to stop the Lebanon and Israel war is to get a ceasefire in Gaza. Which Netanyahu and his cronies don't want.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-airstrike-nabatiyeh-294288635bb489fdefd8d36978651554
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-strike-killed-clearly-identifiable-reuters-reporter-un-report-2024-03-13/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-paramedics-killed-israeli-strike-border-fighting-intensifies-2024-09-07/

Let's at least be honest about recent history--the first rocket attack from Hezbollah after October 7th came on October 8th. Israel hadn't even finished assessing the damage from the day before, let alone begun their movement into Gaza at that point. So while I absolutely support a ceasefire, I also will not give Hezbollah some kind of pass for being anything other than a terrorist organization that saw October 7th as the excuse they needed to attack Israel as soon and as often as they could.

Ah yes, history started on October 7th, please ignore every Israel attack against Lebanon (and the West bank, and Syria, and Iran) before then.

Let's also ignore 1947-48, when Arabs and Palestinians launched a war to annihilate Israel on the very day it was created.

That act of violence is the original sin that has given rise to everything since.

Competes with Hitler's invasion of Russia for the most idiotic move of the 20th century.

Let's go back to July 22, 1946 when the terrorist Zionists bombed the King David hotel - pretending to be Arabs in hopes that the British Military would vacate... Then let us ask ourselves what other atrocities and lies we may have missed...

We could even go back further into the early 1900s when Jews moved to Palestinian lands often times taking their land and houses by force. You know, because God said they could. Since He “chose” them over everyone else.

It was never sovereign Palestinian land. There has never been a sovereign Palestine.

At that time it was under British colonial occupation. The “West” has been f**king with that part of the world for many decades. They helped create the state of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians who were living on that land for centuries.

Jews were living there too. You people always forget that. Jews never actually left. Some did, but not all.

And the Palestinians weren't exactly kind to the Jews living amonst them.

Yup. Arabs across the middle east have a LONG history of systematically oppressing the Jews living in their countries. That includes Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cannot fight two ground wars at the same time. This operation just ended the risk that Israel would need to engage Hezbollah in a ground war. Hezbollah has been continually escalating for the past six months and it was getting dangerously close to Israel being pulled into a 2nd war or - at the very least - a sustained air campaign that would have catastrophic effects on Lebanese civilians.

This pager sabotage operation actually saved many thousands of civilian lives on both side of the border.

Further, it needs to be reiterated that Hezbollah just killed 12 Druze children playing soccer on a playground in northern Israel just last month with their rockets.

Yes, war sucks.

Hezbollah has said multiple times they will stop the rocket attacks if there is a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israel has killed over 150 civilians in Lebanon in the past 11 months. That is civilians, not Hezbollah.

That number includes a journalist for Reuters, paramedics, and many children.

I don't think the life of an Israeli kid is worth more than a Druze kid or a Lebanese kid or a Palestinian kid.

The best way to stop the Lebanon and Israel war is to get a ceasefire in Gaza. Which Netanyahu and his cronies don't want.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-airstrike-nabatiyeh-294288635bb489fdefd8d36978651554
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-strike-killed-clearly-identifiable-reuters-reporter-un-report-2024-03-13/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-paramedics-killed-israeli-strike-border-fighting-intensifies-2024-09-07/

Let's at least be honest about recent history--the first rocket attack from Hezbollah after October 7th came on October 8th. Israel hadn't even finished assessing the damage from the day before, let alone begun their movement into Gaza at that point. So while I absolutely support a ceasefire, I also will not give Hezbollah some kind of pass for being anything other than a terrorist organization that saw October 7th as the excuse they needed to attack Israel as soon and as often as they could.

Ah yes, history started on October 7th, please ignore every Israel attack against Lebanon (and the West bank, and Syria, and Iran) before then.

Let's also ignore 1947-48, when Arabs and Palestinians launched a war to annihilate Israel on the very day it was created.

That act of violence is the original sin that has given rise to everything since.

Competes with Hitler's invasion of Russia for the most idiotic move of the 20th century.

Let's go back to July 22, 1946 when the terrorist Zionists bombed the King David hotel - pretending to be Arabs in hopes that the British Military would vacate... Then let us ask ourselves what other atrocities and lies we may have missed...

We could even go back further into the early 1900s when Jews moved to Palestinian lands often times taking their land and houses by force. You know, because God said they could. Since He “chose” them over everyone else.

It was never sovereign Palestinian land. There has never been a sovereign Palestine.

At that time it was under British colonial occupation. The “West” has been f**king with that part of the world for many decades. They helped create the state of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians who were living on that land for centuries.

Jews were living there too. You people always forget that. Jews never actually left. Some did, but not all.

And the Palestinians weren't exactly kind to the Jews living amonst them.

Before the Jews kicked them out of their houses, they treated the Jews a lot better than Israel has treated the Palestinians for the last 70+ years.

LOL are you kidding me?!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine

[Anonymous]

Here’s another article about Arab killings of Jews in Palestine before the creation of the state of Israel:

https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/pogroms-in-palestine-before-the-creation-of-the-state-of-israel-1830-1948/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s another article about Arab killings of Jews in Palestine before the creation of the state of Israel:

https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/pogroms-in-palestine-before-the-creation-of-the-state-of-israel-1830-1948/

Here’s a quote from that link:

In the nineteenth century, a great many accounts of Jewish life in Arab-Muslim lands reveal a condition characterized primarily by contempt. In 1910, a Western traveler to Yemen4 wrote: “The Jew is the beast on whom one beats at any time, for no reason, to calm one’s nerves, to appease one’s anger”. Between Jews and Arab-Muslims, coexistence is fragile, and remains at the mercy of the slightest incident, especially when Jews forget what Muslim society calls “their sense of humility”. Codified violence keeps everyone in their place, at the risk of being accompanied by the spilling of blood.

Based on a study of the archives of Islamic courts in Palestine, Israeli historian Amnon Cohen reconstructs the reality of the condition of Jewish dhimmis before the beginnings of Zionism, based on legal and administrative sources spanning almost six hundred years, from the Prophet to Saladin in the XIIth century. These documents attest to the fact that the so-called “Pact of Umar”, i.e. the codification of the dhimma, “had retained for many generations an indisputable character”. However, contrary to its official name, the “Pact of Umar” is not a treaty signed between two parties. It was not the subject of negotiation, but a constraint exerted on subjugated populations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).

What on earth are you talking about? The targets were terrorists. Mission accomplished. Do you even understand what Hezbollah is?

Israel calls everyone terrorists include Biden. This is the main reason Israel does everything it can to stop a Palestinian state. You committed acts of war and terrorism against Iran and Hezbollah.

It is time for Israel to address the problem. The Palestinians need full citizenship, right to return and compensation for property/pain and suffering. Nothing else matters.