AP Tests this week, how are we feeling?

[Anonymous]

it comes up as soon as you google it--its different than withholding

"Cancel Scores
The AP Program allows you to cancel your AP Exam scores. When you request cancellation, your exam won’t be scored, and if it has already been scored, the score will be permanently deleted from our records. Once a score is canceled, it can’t be reinstated. There’s no fee for this service, but your exam fee is not refunded. Archived scores cannot be canceled.

Scores can be canceled at any time, but for scores not to be sent to the college, university, or scholarship program that you indicated as your free score report recipient at cb.org/apfreescoresend, the AP Program must receive your request by June 15 of the year you took the AP Exam."

[Anonymous]

https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/score-reporting-services/cancel-scores

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any good AP Comp A teachers?
My kid told me 3/4 of their class left the FRQ papers totally empty.

My kid liked the format of the actual class this year. Students did everything on their own, worked at their own pace and teacher was there if you had a question. This suited my kid just fine and he thought it was a nice break from his other classes which were more structured. But the teacher didn't teach - pretty sure some parents have complained.

My kid also said that the teacher didn't do a lot of prep for the exam either. He kept telling them "don't worry about this or that" so kid practiced questions on his own and somehow was able to tell what score he got on each one. Not sure how this works.

In any event, I'm the pp with the one kid who thought frq was a bit easier than the mcq but he said he focused more on practicing free response than multiple choice so that was probably a factor.

Agree with a pp - I've decided to encourage kid not to stress about the scores at all anymore. He gets what he gets and we'll decide what to do with the scores when that issue rolls around.

Wait, what? for real?

You can only cancel or remove them until June 15 of the year in which the test was taken. Aka - before you get the scores. Once you have the scores they are on the record and not removable.

that is not true at all. you can cancel anytime for a fee

Can you provide a link within the College Board that supports your claim? because I've looked and not found it.

correcting myself---its actually free

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it comes up as soon as you google it--its different than withholding

"Cancel Scores
The AP Program allows you to cancel your AP Exam scores. When you request cancellation, your exam won’t be scored, and if it has already been scored, the score will be permanently deleted from our records. Once a score is canceled, it can’t be reinstated. There’s no fee for this service, but your exam fee is not refunded. Archived scores cannot be canceled.

Scores can be canceled at any time, but for scores not to be sent to the college, university, or scholarship program that you indicated as your free score report recipient at cb.org/apfreescoresend, the AP Program must receive your request by June 15 of the year you took the AP Exam."

+1 I was called a moron for explaining the process
My child canceled his 9th-grade AP score. It's no longer listed on the College Board website, and I called to confirm that it doesn't go out in the report sent to schools, and there is no indication that the student took the test.

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Anonymous wrote:Was APUSH ridiculously easy for your kid? My son said it felt like a joke. His only worry now is that it will take close to a perfect score for a 5 and he's not sure he got everything correct.

My kid thought the same and got a 5 last year.

The score distribution for APUSH exam last year were rough-over 50% failure rate (1 or 2 on exam). Wouldn’t be so cocky!

5-10.6%
4-14.8%
3-22.1%
2-22.7%
1-29.8%

This is insane. My kid took the test yesterday from a DC private that doesn't even offer APUSH (just one level of US history) and he said that there was nothing on the test that he didn't know backwards and forwards. He is not a cocky kid (and readily admits when something is hard) so I believe him when he says this.

It's crazy how little many students learn in class.

It’s not a “gotcha” test…you think you are making some strange flex. Any well taught history class prepares kids and they will do well on the test.

I agree. It’s one of the easier AP exams. She earned a 5.

DP

APUSH is actually considered one of the hardest AP tests. Where did you read otherwise?

She didn’t. Because her genius daughter got a 5 it’s an easy exam. Anyone who doesn’t get a 5 is a complete moron.

I guess, but even that seems like funky logic? Arguing that something your kid aced is actually easy only diminishes what they accomplished, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Was APUSH ridiculously easy for your kid? My son said it felt like a joke. His only worry now is that it will take close to a perfect score for a 5 and he's not sure he got everything correct.

My kid thought the same and got a 5 last year.

The score distribution for APUSH exam last year were rough-over 50% failure rate (1 or 2 on exam). Wouldn’t be so cocky!

5-10.6%
4-14.8%
3-22.1%
2-22.7%
1-29.8%

This is insane. My kid took the test yesterday from a DC private that doesn't even offer APUSH (just one level of US history) and he said that there was nothing on the test that he didn't know backwards and forwards. He is not a cocky kid (and readily admits when something is hard) so I believe him when he says this.

It's crazy how little many students learn in class.

It’s not a “gotcha” test…you think you are making some strange flex. Any well taught history class prepares kids and they will do well on the test.

I agree. It’s one of the easier AP exams. She earned a 5.

DP

APUSH is actually considered one of the hardest AP tests. Where did you read otherwise?

She didn’t. Because her genius daughter got a 5 it’s an easy exam. Anyone who doesn’t get a 5 is a complete moron.

I guess, but even that seems like funky logic? Arguing that something your kid aced is actually easy only diminishes what they accomplished, right?

Maybe the PP isn’t that bright. Who knows. But APUSH is one of the hardest exams with the lowest pass rate. That much I know.

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Anonymous wrote:Was APUSH ridiculously easy for your kid? My son said it felt like a joke. His only worry now is that it will take close to a perfect score for a 5 and he's not sure he got everything correct.

My kid thought the same and got a 5 last year.

The score distribution for APUSH exam last year were rough-over 50% failure rate (1 or 2 on exam). Wouldn’t be so cocky!

5-10.6%
4-14.8%
3-22.1%
2-22.7%
1-29.8%

This is insane. My kid took the test yesterday from a DC private that doesn't even offer APUSH (just one level of US history) and he said that there was nothing on the test that he didn't know backwards and forwards. He is not a cocky kid (and readily admits when something is hard) so I believe him when he says this.

It's crazy how little many students learn in class.

It’s not a “gotcha” test…you think you are making some strange flex. Any well taught history class prepares kids and they will do well on the test.

I agree. It’s one of the easier AP exams. She earned a 5.

DP

APUSH is actually considered one of the hardest AP tests. Where did you read otherwise?

She didn’t. Because her genius daughter got a 5 it’s an easy exam. Anyone who doesn’t get a 5 is a complete moron.

I guess, but even that seems like funky logic? Arguing that something your kid aced is actually easy only diminishes what they accomplished, right?

Maybe the PP isn’t that bright. Who knows. But APUSH is one of the hardest exams with the lowest pass rate. That much I know.

Some of the pass rates are influenced by the self-selection vs. forced nature of the test. A lot of schools force less prepared students into APUSH, sometimes as freshman. If you make it through APUSH, the students is much more prepared for Gov and World.

[Anonymous]

Calculus tomorrow - oh joy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any good AP Comp A teachers?
My kid told me 3/4 of their class left the FRQ papers totally empty.

My kid liked the format of the actual class this year. Students did everything on their own, worked at their own pace and teacher was there if you had a question. This suited my kid just fine and he thought it was a nice break from his other classes which were more structured. But the teacher didn't teach - pretty sure some parents have complained.

My kid also said that the teacher didn't do a lot of prep for the exam either. He kept telling them "don't worry about this or that" so kid practiced questions on his own and somehow was able to tell what score he got on each one. Not sure how this works.

In any event, I'm the pp with the one kid who thought frq was a bit easier than the mcq but he said he focused more on practicing free response than multiple choice so that was probably a factor.

Agree with a pp - I've decided to encourage kid not to stress about the scores at all anymore. He gets what he gets and we'll decide what to do with the scores when that issue rolls around.

Wait, what? for real?

You can only cancel or remove them until June 15 of the year in which the test was taken. Aka - before you get the scores. Once you have the scores they are on the record and not removable.

that is not true at all. you can cancel anytime for a fee

Can you provide a link within the College Board that supports your claim? because I've looked and not found it.

DP, what you want to Google is how to withhold a score.
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/score-reporting-services/withhold-scores
Note that the points about deadlines for removing scores from the free report is only if you opted to have your scores sent with the free report (I’d recommend not ever doing that), because you have to cancel them before knowing how you did. Once a test is scored, as long as you did not choose to have the free report sent, you can selectively request to have scores withheld at any time for a fee.

Thank you. Very helpful. That bit about the deadline of June 15 is not very clear!

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Anonymous wrote:Was APUSH ridiculously easy for your kid? My son said it felt like a joke. His only worry now is that it will take close to a perfect score for a 5 and he's not sure he got everything correct.

My kid thought the same and got a 5 last year.

The score distribution for APUSH exam last year were rough-over 50% failure rate (1 or 2 on exam). Wouldn’t be so cocky!

5-10.6%
4-14.8%
3-22.1%
2-22.7%
1-29.8%

This is insane. My kid took the test yesterday from a DC private that doesn't even offer APUSH (just one level of US history) and he said that there was nothing on the test that he didn't know backwards and forwards. He is not a cocky kid (and readily admits when something is hard) so I believe him when he says this.

It's crazy how little many students learn in class.

It’s not a “gotcha” test…you think you are making some strange flex. Any well taught history class prepares kids and they will do well on the test.

I agree. It’s one of the easier AP exams. She earned a 5.

DP

APUSH is actually considered one of the hardest AP tests. Where did you read otherwise?

She didn’t. Because her genius daughter got a 5 it’s an easy exam. Anyone who doesn’t get a 5 is a complete moron.

I guess, but even that seems like funky logic? Arguing that something your kid aced is actually easy only diminishes what they accomplished, right?

Maybe the PP isn’t that bright. Who knows. But APUSH is one of the hardest exams with the lowest pass rate. That much I know.

Some of the pass rates are influenced by the self-selection vs. forced nature of the test. A lot of schools force less prepared students into APUSH, sometimes as freshman. If you make it through APUSH, the students is much more prepared for Gov and World.

There's truth in this, but APUSH is one of the hardest for several reasons. Low pass rate, very low rate of Score = 5, and extensive depth and breadth of content. It's a tremendous amount of materials, and yeah, if you have a bright kids who are motivated to learn and a good AP teacher, scores of 4 and 5 rain down from heaven like mana. But that doesn't mean it's one of the easiest tests, as the PP just threw out there.

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Anonymous wrote:The college board site says they start releasing results on July 8th.

Given past experience, that doesn't mean ALL results will be available first thing on July 8th.

I have kids taking a few starting this week. One kid is really ill with Flu B so has anti-virals and anything else we can pump him with, to be well enough to take them.

There are make-up days at the end of the exam period. Don’t take it sick

Agree!

The make ups are not the same test and my kid heard they can have harder FRQs so be careful.

That would be deemed discrimination and not ethical.

One possibility is that they are telling your kid the FRQs are harder so he's motivated to do them on time. It's also obv true that the FRQs MAY be harder (for him) or easier.

But I have heard the AP exams are much harder for international students taking an alternative exam. I don't know if it's true or not, but it seems to be lore within the foreign service and my kids' school. They use the "basic" questions for the "real" test, alternative questions for the international exams, and the logic is that the alternative ones are a lot harder even though they are graded using US curves.

This makes no sense. The international exams are same difficulty. They just have to use different questions because they are done on a different date

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The college board site says they start releasing results on July 8th.

Given past experience, that doesn't mean ALL results will be available first thing on July 8th.

I have kids taking a few starting this week. One kid is really ill with Flu B so has anti-virals and anything else we can pump him with, to be well enough to take them.

There are make-up days at the end of the exam period. Don’t take it sick

Agree!

The make ups are not the same test and my kid heard they can have harder FRQs so be careful.

That would be deemed discrimination and not ethical.

One possibility is that they are telling your kid the FRQs are harder so he's motivated to do them on time. It's also obv true that the FRQs MAY be harder (for him) or easier.

But I have heard the AP exams are much harder for international students taking an alternative exam. I don't know if it's true or not, but it seems to be lore within the foreign service and my kids' school. They use the "basic" questions for the "real" test, alternative questions for the international exams, and the logic is that the alternative ones are a lot harder even though they are graded using US curves.

This makes no sense. The international exams are same difficulty. They just have to use different questions because they are done on a different date

Yeah I am the PP they were addressing. Don't engage with trolls or theorists. Its a waste of time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:it comes up as soon as you google it--its different than withholding

"Cancel Scores
The AP Program allows you to cancel your AP Exam scores. When you request cancellation, your exam won’t be scored, and if it has already been scored, the score will be permanently deleted from our records. Once a score is canceled, it can’t be reinstated. There’s no fee for this service, but your exam fee is not refunded. Archived scores cannot be canceled.

Scores can be canceled at any time, but for scores not to be sent to the college, university, or scholarship program that you indicated as your free score report recipient at cb.org/apfreescoresend, the AP Program must receive your request by June 15 of the year you took the AP Exam."

+1 I was called a moron for explaining the process
My child canceled his 9th-grade AP score. It's no longer listed on the College Board website, and I called to confirm that it doesn't go out in the report sent to schools, and there is no indication that the student took the test.

Some high schools include AP scores on the academic records they send to colleges. If you canceled after the high school received the score, it might get sent to colleges that way nonetheless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it comes up as soon as you google it--its different than withholding

"Cancel Scores
The AP Program allows you to cancel your AP Exam scores. When you request cancellation, your exam won’t be scored, and if it has already been scored, the score will be permanently deleted from our records. Once a score is canceled, it can’t be reinstated. There’s no fee for this service, but your exam fee is not refunded. Archived scores cannot be canceled.

Scores can be canceled at any time, but for scores not to be sent to the college, university, or scholarship program that you indicated as your free score report recipient at cb.org/apfreescoresend, the AP Program must receive your request by June 15 of the year you took the AP Exam."

+1 I was called a moron for explaining the process
My child canceled his 9th-grade AP score. It's no longer listed on the College Board website, and I called to confirm that it doesn't go out in the report sent to schools, and there is no indication that the student took the test.

Some high schools include AP scores on the academic records they send to colleges. If you canceled after the high school received the score, it might get sent to colleges that way nonetheless.

well then mom can call the HS and inquire

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it comes up as soon as you google it--its different than withholding

"Cancel Scores
The AP Program allows you to cancel your AP Exam scores. When you request cancellation, your exam won’t be scored, and if it has already been scored, the score will be permanently deleted from our records. Once a score is canceled, it can’t be reinstated. There’s no fee for this service, but your exam fee is not refunded. Archived scores cannot be canceled.

Scores can be canceled at any time, but for scores not to be sent to the college, university, or scholarship program that you indicated as your free score report recipient at cb.org/apfreescoresend, the AP Program must receive your request by June 15 of the year you took the AP Exam."

+1 I was called a moron for explaining the process
My child canceled his 9th-grade AP score. It's no longer listed on the College Board website, and I called to confirm that it doesn't go out in the report sent to schools, and there is no indication that the student took the test.

Some high schools include AP scores on the academic records they send to colleges. If you canceled after the high school received the score, it might get sent to colleges that way nonetheless.

My kid’s school doesn’t include AP scores so not an issue. The school doesn’t even require students to take the AP exams.