University of Alabama - “ peak neo-antebellum white Southern culture” - NYT

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who was in an SEC sorority, I am rolling my eyes so hard at her suggestion that women only join to meet the right men rather than to be part of a sisterhood. It’s kind of misogynist and gives off “not like the other girls” vibes. Not every girl is there for marriage (in fact, in 2023, I’d guess that most are not, even in the south). And I know not every sorority can say this, but our sisterhood was actually very strong and has been the foundation of many of my social connections with women to this day. I don’t see why it’s surprising or problematic that young women would want that.

This is because progressives like the author have jumped in to embrace misogyny with an enthusiasm in the past I associated with MAGA. Misogyny is a fundamental part of the progressive left platform now. That’s why overtly misogynist pieces like this one are accepted.

No, that’s complete BS. I have to reluctantly agree that misogyny is part of the minority left who want to Karen all white women. But it’s certainly not part of the Hilary-supporting, pro-choice left as a whole.

Maybe not. I’m honestly not sure I believe that any more and I say that as someone who for most of my life would have called myself progressive.

But stuff like this openly misogynist article comes out of the progressive left all the time now. And it’s not openly criticized by others on the left publicly, at least. I mean, if you want to see just how sexist and misogynist the article is, read the article with men substituted for all references to women. It’s ludicrous, but this sort of tone and language has become part and parcel of how the progressive left talks about women now.

At least one other progressive poster here, and I, were hoping we wouldn't have to spell this out. That you could read between the lines. But it's not all of the progressive left--it's a very specific corner of the progressive left. Some, probably just a handful, of black women, who are undeniably progressive like Tressa and Monique Judge, are working overtime to paint white women as BBQ Beckies and Karens. There are probably a lot of reasons for this, but one of them is clearly pushing back on white standards of beauty. Which is legitimate, because it's way past time we started to value and elevate other colors and shapes. Tressa makes her living complaining about white beauty standards (see her book Thick! for example). But this is a a particularly spiteful and misogynistic way to accomplish this, because it apparently extends to any white woman files her nails into almonds, wears minimal makeup, or rushes in Lululemon and hair dye, apparently (the list keeps growing) instead of wearing sackcloth and ashes. And progressives who see this dynamic are uncomfortable calling it out.

PP here. I’ve seen plenty of open misogyny from white leftists too, thanks. I don’t know what exactly you are driving at in this post, but the embrace of misogyny by the left isn’t purely or even mostly a race-based issue as far as I’m concerned.

I agree that white women who jump on the Karen bandwagon are misogynists, too. But that's not Tressa, she's doing her misogyny for a different reason.

It’s weird you keep mistaking her name.

You mean the way certain posters (no doubt including you) insist on calling Melania Trump "Melanie"? Not too concerned with spelling her name correctly since so many of you make a point to do the same thing to anyone you dislike - that is, white people.
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What a hate-filled thread this is.
In general, a lot of people are talking about 'Bama Rush because their kids are watching it on TikTok. Then there's the documentary. This columnist has an opinion. But it's not your opinion - so why aren't you writing a well-informed opinion piece explaining all the benefits of sorority culture instead of cr@pping on this one black columnist? Interesting that none of you were interested hearing what an actual top drawer (Tri Delta) Southern sorority alum has to say about any of this, so I wonder if any of you even know anyone in a sorority - are you even women? Maybe you're just a bunch of trolls who found an excuse to say something racist.

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^ not the Tri Delta

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/22/opinion/bama-rush-tiktok-race.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Angry woman from NYT big mad that Bama girls are hot and also big mad that outsiders think the Bama girls are hot also.

“ Their Southern accents are the linguistic equivalent of pointing a ring light at their shiny hair and tasteful makeup. ”

“ that accent is seductive. It says these are ideal women from a regional culture that values traditional gender norms ”

“ these sororities’ annual viral juggernaut is counterprogramming to the Northeastern elite university brand. The Bama version is wholesome, nonthreatening, traditional femininity in Lululemon athleisure. ”

The whole article is a must read

No thoughts on the history of segregation and Greek life? On the role of the Machine? You're missing the point if you think this piece and other critiques of the system are directed at the "shiny hair and tasteful makeup."

And the Devine nine don’t segregate? Please, enough with this garbage.

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Amazing that actual segregated sororities get a pass from this author (and DCUM’s finest LWNJs), but all other sororities do not. And I’m not a fan of the Greek system in any iteration, but this author is so transparent.

Until white supremacy has been completely dismantled, there will always been a need for affinity groups and safe spaces for marginalized people. I know this bothers white people so much, in the same way you are not allowed to use the N word, while Black people do because a primary tenet of white culture is that no one can tell you what you can't do ever (see 2nd Amendment). White folks built an entire society and systems of exclusion and discrimination that has only been successfully challenged in the past 70 years (for kicks, picking 1954 the year of Brown v Board, though the decision did not lead truly integrated schools...) and now, the organizations that Blacks built to uplift themselves are somehow problematic? This is akin to the big bully wanting the little kid he beat up to be forced to apologize to him too.

the more important point is that there is no black sorority Tik Tok trend.

anyway, I don’t think any white DCUM person who knows any black people in DC fails to understand the role of Jack & Jill, HBCUs, black sororities/frats, or vacations to Oak Bluffs. I’m sure Cottom would have equally interesting things to say about them as elite institutions.

Do you think all the TikTok viewers are watching because they admire these sisters? Seriously? Probably most viewers are hate-watching and laughing. Also, you dodged the question about self-segregation contradicting Cottom's thesis about discrimination.

What is her “thesis about discrimination”? I don’t think you read the article. If your thesis is that white sororities in Alabama is exactly the same thing as say Howard University, I think you’re being willfully obtuse.

In any event her piece has almost as much to do with gender & class as race. Sure it would be interesting if she wrote about Black elite institutions… but they are not a pop cultural phenom at the moment and Cottom is a *cultural critic.*

There's absolutely a white patriarchy in Alabama, and it needs to be dismantled now or yesterday. Fraternities and sororities also probably need to be dismantled.

Going after a handful of white teenagers by mocking their looks and bodies is the wrong way to go about it, though. So yes, I agree with you, that it's about gender. It's about white women, specifically. That's Cottom's beat--she dislikes white women. To the point where she's willing to allude to discrimination (you're right, Cottom has no clear thesis because she has no data to back it up, and pp with the self-segregation is busy undermining Cottom too) as some sort of thin cover for her misogyny.

Nobody ever equated white sororities in Alabama to Howard U. You're the one being obtuse. We all agree there's a history there, and nobody wants to go back to the days of deb balls. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about rushing in 2024.

Hopefully that leads to the NYT and UNC parting ways with her. If this same article was written about the appearance of black women, she would have already written her apology and been fired, but it's ok to attack white women based on appearance.

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And it’s especially ok for a black woman to attack white women. Never would a white woman dare to write this kind of garbage about black women, and if she did, the NYT would NEVER publish it.

I hate that I’m starting to think this, but it’s another form of Karenning white women. They can’t send back the latte, they can’t file their nails into almonds or buy beachy furniture, they can’t expect a bike after a 12-hour shift, and now they can’t rush a sorority that maybe black women want nothing to do with anyway. And the accusers are almost always black women.

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Especially the bolded ^^. The author and her defenders will never admit this FACT - that the vast majority of black women want to rush exclusively black sororities. No one is excluding them - they are CHOOSING to self-segregate. No one is a victim here, though it certainly seems progressives want to blame white women for the preferences of black women.

ffs. read the f’in article and pay close attention to what she says about integrating white sororities.

DP. Do you mean the part where the author talks about the 1960s?

Or where Tressie writes "And I ask, why would anyone want to integrate that?" in a conclusion that underscores the contention that, instead of discrimination, actually Black women aren't rushing, don't want to rush, these White sororities?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who was in an SEC sorority, I am rolling my eyes so hard at her suggestion that women only join to meet the right men rather than to be part of a sisterhood. It’s kind of misogynist and gives off “not like the other girls” vibes. Not every girl is there for marriage (in fact, in 2023, I’d guess that most are not, even in the south). And I know not every sorority can say this, but our sisterhood was actually very strong and has been the foundation of many of my social connections with women to this day. I don’t see why it’s surprising or problematic that young women would want that.

This is because progressives like the author have jumped in to embrace misogyny with an enthusiasm in the past I associated with MAGA. Misogyny is a fundamental part of the progressive left platform now. That’s why overtly misogynist pieces like this one are accepted.

No, that’s complete BS. I have to reluctantly agree that misogyny is part of the minority left who want to Karen all white women. But it’s certainly not part of the Hilary-supporting, pro-choice left as a whole.

Maybe not. I’m honestly not sure I believe that any more and I say that as someone who for most of my life would have called myself progressive.

But stuff like this openly misogynist article comes out of the progressive left all the time now. And it’s not openly criticized by others on the left publicly, at least. I mean, if you want to see just how sexist and misogynist the article is, read the article with men substituted for all references to women. It’s ludicrous, but this sort of tone and language has become part and parcel of how the progressive left talks about women now.

At least one other progressive poster here, and I, were hoping we wouldn't have to spell this out. That you could read between the lines. But it's not all of the progressive left--it's a very specific corner of the progressive left. Some, probably just a handful, of black women, who are undeniably progressive like Tressa and Monique Judge, are working overtime to paint white women as BBQ Beckies and Karens. There are probably a lot of reasons for this, but one of them is clearly pushing back on white standards of beauty. Which is legitimate, because it's way past time we started to value and elevate other colors and shapes. Tressa makes her living complaining about white beauty standards (see her book Thick! for example). But this is a a particularly spiteful and misogynistic way to accomplish this, because it apparently extends to any white woman files her nails into almonds, wears minimal makeup, or rushes in Lululemon and hair dye, apparently (the list keeps growing) instead of wearing sackcloth and ashes. And progressives who see this dynamic are uncomfortable calling it out.

TressIE is nothing like Monique Judge. I was an OG contributor on the Sara Comrie thread ripping Monique regularly. What it seems like is that you’ve decided that any cultural critique of how racial, gender, and class power is maintained through ritual and institutions is anti-white. (And of course you ignore that the sororities piece is almost as much about class & gender as race.) If you are refusing to allow any such analysis of an all-white institution (a freakin’ Alabama sorority! come on) you are basically saying that this type of critique can never happen. Christopher Rufo must be very proud.

FFS. I hate all frats and sororities. And I've posted multiple times that I believe there's a white patriarchy in Alabama. I posted that I would never want my daughter to rush these houses, or any sororities.

What I don't believe--because neither Tressa nor anybody here has provided a shred of evidence--is that a few hundred white teenagers are propping up Alabama's white patriarchy. Tressa draws a straight line between wearing Lululemon and propping up the white patriarchy. Yet nobody, but nobody, and certainly not Tessie, has demonstrated that...
-- The sororities are racist. Instead of Blacks understandably preferring their own sororities, which a black poster argued upthread.
-- The sororities resemble the sororities of the 1950s in terms of racism, legacy preferences and other privilege.
-- These few hundred white sorority women are advancing to positions of power in Alabama faster and more easily than nonwhites and whites who aren't sisters. Somebody gave a single example of a white sorority woman in power. Even Tressa mocks these women for wanting to be homemakers.
-- These white women, who aspire to little more than keeping house for their supposedly patriarchal man, are somehow doing that job better than white women who weren't sorority sisters.
-- No woman, including white women, is entitled to manifest themselves as they want, even if we don't condone their desire to be homemakers.

Tressa's piece reads instead like just another case of mocking and trashing of white women for vague reasons. No data, no facts, just a straight line from the bottle of hair dye to the white patriarchy. Because white women, and that's all you and Tressa need to know. And you're willing to swallow it all, because Alabama's past really was horrific, so you're willing to believe that maybe it's still just as equally horrific. And you're not willing to subject Tressa's arguments to daylight. You're not willing to ask for statistics on rates of rejection, for example.

you just listed a whole bunch of stuff that actually is not in the article. and you do seem to be arguing that nothing about the all-white Alabama sororities today has anything to do with race? because why, because black sororities exist? you realize also she’s making a cultural critique not impugning any individuals? I can’t really “subject [Cottoms] claims to daylight” as you’ve listed them because those aren’t her claims, they are distortions/deliberate misreadings. And her name is Tressie not Tressa.

I pointed out that Tressie went straight from Lululemon to white patriarchy. And absolutely I listed a bunch of stuff that's not in the article--that's exactly the point. To get from point A to point B, Tessie would have had to prove ALL these points. Yet she doesn't even care to bother. And you're OK with that. You should ask yourself why.

I mean, that’s not actually how cultural criticism works … you think she has to empirically prove in a RCT that the reification of perfect blonde hair in the context of an all-white sorority rush in Alabama has something to do with race?

No. Try to be honest, please. Tressie needs to prove that blond hair has something to do with discrimination. As opposed to, you know, black women wanting to pledge black sororities instead.

right. all-black sororities have nothing to do w/racism or sexism.

FIFY.

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Anonymous wrote:What a disappointing piece. This writer could have spent her time being productive. Instead she espouses the "evils" of being white. It is sickening and makes me want to throw up. I don't understand today's mindset of having to put other people down because of their race. It's a bad look.

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It’s the progressive way.

No, it’s not and gtfo with that. Lots of us progressives are pushing back on this mindset of bashing white women for anything they do. Even in situations like this one, where it’s not at all clear this is about discrimination vs. black women (smartly) not wanting anything to do with the silliness and preferring their own affinity groups.

OMG READ the article. Tressie makes *exactly* the point you are making.

OMG READ my post. Progressives like me are pushing back on Tressie’s “points.”

Because you’re not even trying to understand them because you are apparently incredibly triggered by any discussion about the cultural aspects of whiteness.

Let's talk about the "cultural aspects of blackness"! This will be fun!
DP

I mean, there is plenty written on HBCUs and black fraternal orgs. This is a complete straw man, as well.

But let me ask you - how do you situate the Tik Tok-mediated acceleration of all-white, hyper-feminized sororities in Alabama in the context of race and gender in the US?

There is plenty written about HBCU's and the black greek organizations BY BLACK PEOPLE. Why are you being deliberately obtuse? The point is that a white person would be burned at the stake if they ever tried to write a cultural critique of black sororities the way this author did about white sororities.

As for the Tik-Tok business, I find it all to be utterly revolting - whether the participants are white OR black. It's stupid and shallow. And has nothing to do with race, because we know that people of all races are participating. But it's great fun for a black woman to think she is somehow entitled to critique only the white girls - not the black girls!

So this isn’t about what she actually wrote, but about a different thing entirely. Got it.

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So glad my dad left that backward ass state.

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Anonymous wrote:What a hate-filled thread this is.
In general, a lot of people are talking about 'Bama Rush because their kids are watching it on TikTok. Then there's the documentary. This columnist has an opinion. But it's not your opinion - so why aren't you writing a well-informed opinion piece explaining all the benefits of sorority culture instead of cr@pping on this one black columnist? Interesting that none of you were interested hearing what an actual top drawer (Tri Delta) Southern sorority alum has to say about any of this, so I wonder if any of you even know anyone in a sorority - are you even women? Maybe you're just a bunch of trolls who found an excuse to say something racist.

"Top drawer" - oh my goodness. You really do believe your own hype, don't you? Sure, this woman has an opinion. And we are sharing our opinions as well, mainly that she is WAY out of line critiquing white women when any critique of black women (by white women) would be excoriated immediately. She's welcome to her opinion, and we are welcome to critique her stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:What a disappointing piece. This writer could have spent her time being productive. Instead she espouses the "evils" of being white. It is sickening and makes me want to throw up. I don't understand today's mindset of having to put other people down because of their race. It's a bad look.

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It’s the progressive way.

No, it’s not and gtfo with that. Lots of us progressives are pushing back on this mindset of bashing white women for anything they do. Even in situations like this one, where it’s not at all clear this is about discrimination vs. black women (smartly) not wanting anything to do with the silliness and preferring their own affinity groups.

OMG READ the article. Tressie makes *exactly* the point you are making.

OMG READ my post. Progressives like me are pushing back on Tressie’s “points.”

Because you’re not even trying to understand them because you are apparently incredibly triggered by any discussion about the cultural aspects of whiteness.

Let's talk about the "cultural aspects of blackness"! This will be fun!
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I mean, there is plenty written on HBCUs and black fraternal orgs. This is a complete straw man, as well.

But let me ask you - how do you situate the Tik Tok-mediated acceleration of all-white, hyper-feminized sororities in Alabama in the context of race and gender in the US?

There is plenty written about HBCU's and the black greek organizations BY BLACK PEOPLE. Why are you being deliberately obtuse? The point is that a white person would be burned at the stake if they ever tried to write a cultural critique of black sororities the way this author did about white sororities.

As for the Tik-Tok business, I find it all to be utterly revolting - whether the participants are white OR black. It's stupid and shallow. And has nothing to do with race, because we know that people of all races are participating. But it's great fun for a black woman to think she is somehow entitled to critique only the white girls - not the black girls!

So this isn’t about what she actually wrote, but about a different thing entirely. Got it.

I see you're going to continue with the deliberately obtuse act since it's working so well for your corresponding gaslighting act. Or perhaps you're just plain old obtuse, in which case I'm sorry you're so confused and don't understand the point that many posters have made, multiple times.

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Thought it was interesting that Alabama was a popular school to apply to at our school (Bethesda-Chevy Chase), but no one enrolled (27 applied, 13 accepted, 0 attended).

https://moco360.media/september-october-2023-digital-edition/

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Anonymous wrote:What a disappointing piece. This writer could have spent her time being productive. Instead she espouses the "evils" of being white. It is sickening and makes me want to throw up. I don't understand today's mindset of having to put other people down because of their race. It's a bad look.

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It’s the progressive way.

No, it’s not and gtfo with that. Lots of us progressives are pushing back on this mindset of bashing white women for anything they do. Even in situations like this one, where it’s not at all clear this is about discrimination vs. black women (smartly) not wanting anything to do with the silliness and preferring their own affinity groups.

OMG READ the article. Tressie makes *exactly* the point you are making.

OMG READ my post. Progressives like me are pushing back on Tressie’s “points.”

Because you’re not even trying to understand them because you are apparently incredibly triggered by any discussion about the cultural aspects of whiteness.

Let's talk about the "cultural aspects of blackness"! This will be fun!
DP

I mean, there is plenty written on HBCUs and black fraternal orgs. This is a complete straw man, as well.

But let me ask you - how do you situate the Tik Tok-mediated acceleration of all-white, hyper-feminized sororities in Alabama in the context of race and gender in the US?

You don’t. It’s entertainment, a curiosity — nothing more, nothing less. Just like the housewives.

DP. This. It's entertainment. I'm willing to bet that half the watchers, or more, are rolling their eyes and laughing. The other half are pervy guys.

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Angry woman from NYT big mad that Bama girls are hot and also big mad that outsiders think the Bama girls are hot also.

“ Their Southern accents are the linguistic equivalent of pointing a ring light at their shiny hair and tasteful makeup. ”

“ that accent is seductive. It says these are ideal women from a regional culture that values traditional gender norms ”

“ these sororities’ annual viral juggernaut is counterprogramming to the Northeastern elite university brand. The Bama version is wholesome, nonthreatening, traditional femininity in Lululemon athleisure. ”

The whole article is a must read

No thoughts on the history of segregation and Greek life? On the role of the Machine? You're missing the point if you think this piece and other critiques of the system are directed at the "shiny hair and tasteful makeup."

And the Devine nine don’t segregate? Please, enough with this garbage.

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Amazing that actual segregated sororities get a pass from this author (and DCUM’s finest LWNJs), but all other sororities do not. And I’m not a fan of the Greek system in any iteration, but this author is so transparent.

Until white supremacy has been completely dismantled, there will always been a need for affinity groups and safe spaces for marginalized people. I know this bothers white people so much, in the same way you are not allowed to use the N word, while Black people do because a primary tenet of white culture is that no one can tell you what you can't do ever (see 2nd Amendment). White folks built an entire society and systems of exclusion and discrimination that has only been successfully challenged in the past 70 years (for kicks, picking 1954 the year of Brown v Board, though the decision did not lead truly integrated schools...) and now, the organizations that Blacks built to uplift themselves are somehow problematic? This is akin to the big bully wanting the little kid he beat up to be forced to apologize to him too.

the more important point is that there is no black sorority Tik Tok trend.

anyway, I don’t think any white DCUM person who knows any black people in DC fails to understand the role of Jack & Jill, HBCUs, black sororities/frats, or vacations to Oak Bluffs. I’m sure Cottom would have equally interesting things to say about them as elite institutions.

Do you think all the TikTok viewers are watching because they admire these sisters? Seriously? Probably most viewers are hate-watching and laughing. Also, you dodged the question about self-segregation contradicting Cottom's thesis about discrimination.

What is her “thesis about discrimination”? I don’t think you read the article. If your thesis is that white sororities in Alabama is exactly the same thing as say Howard University, I think you’re being willfully obtuse.

In any event her piece has almost as much to do with gender & class as race. Sure it would be interesting if she wrote about Black elite institutions… but they are not a pop cultural phenom at the moment and Cottom is a *cultural critic.*

There's absolutely a white patriarchy in Alabama, and it needs to be dismantled now or yesterday. Fraternities and sororities also probably need to be dismantled.

Going after a handful of white teenagers by mocking their looks and bodies is the wrong way to go about it, though. So yes, I agree with you, that it's about gender. It's about white women, specifically. That's Cottom's beat--she dislikes white women. To the point where she's willing to allude to discrimination (you're right, Cottom has no clear thesis because she has no data to back it up, and pp with the self-segregation is busy undermining Cottom too) as some sort of thin cover for her misogyny.

Nobody ever equated white sororities in Alabama to Howard U. You're the one being obtuse. We all agree there's a history there, and nobody wants to go back to the days of deb balls. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about rushing in 2024.

Hopefully that leads to the NYT and UNC parting ways with her. If this same article was written about the appearance of black women, she would have already written her apology and been fired, but it's ok to attack white women based on appearance.

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And it’s especially ok for a black woman to attack white women. Never would a white woman dare to write this kind of garbage about black women, and if she did, the NYT would NEVER publish it.

I hate that I’m starting to think this, but it’s another form of Karenning white women. They can’t send back the latte, they can’t file their nails into almonds or buy beachy furniture, they can’t expect a bike after a 12-hour shift, and now they can’t rush a sorority that maybe black women want nothing to do with anyway. And the accusers are almost always black women.

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Especially the bolded ^^. The author and her defenders will never admit this FACT - that the vast majority of black women want to rush exclusively black sororities. No one is excluding them - they are CHOOSING to self-segregate. No one is a victim here, though it certainly seems progressives want to blame white women for the preferences of black women.

ffs. read the f’in article and pay close attention to what she says about integrating white sororities.

DP. Do you mean the part where the author talks about the 1960s?

Or where Tressie writes "And I ask, why would anyone want to integrate that?" in a conclusion that underscores the contention that, instead of discrimination, actually Black women aren't rushing, don't want to rush, these White sororities?

Yes.

Whoooooooosh. I'm that pp, and that's the sound of irony going right over your head.

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Anonymous wrote:What a hate-filled thread this is.
In general, a lot of people are talking about 'Bama Rush because their kids are watching it on TikTok. Then there's the documentary. This columnist has an opinion. But it's not your opinion - so why aren't you writing a well-informed opinion piece explaining all the benefits of sorority culture instead of cr@pping on this one black columnist? Interesting that none of you were interested hearing what an actual top drawer (Tri Delta) Southern sorority alum has to say about any of this, so I wonder if any of you even know anyone in a sorority - are you even women? Maybe you're just a bunch of trolls who found an excuse to say something racist.

Puhleeze. Cottom put her piece out there. So we have the right to say in detail exactly why it's misogynistic trash.

-- a woman

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Anonymous wrote:Thought it was interesting that Alabama was a popular school to apply to at our school (Bethesda-Chevy Chase), but no one enrolled (27 applied, 13 accepted, 0 attended).

https://moco360.media/september-october-2023-digital-edition/

So 'Bama isn't quite the escalator to success that Cottom is making it out to be, at least in the eyes of BCC kids and their families?

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Anonymous wrote:What a hate-filled thread this is.
In general, a lot of people are talking about 'Bama Rush because their kids are watching it on TikTok. Then there's the documentary. This columnist has an opinion. But it's not your opinion - so why aren't you writing a well-informed opinion piece explaining all the benefits of sorority culture instead of cr@pping on this one black columnist? Interesting that none of you were interested hearing what an actual top drawer (Tri Delta) Southern sorority alum has to say about any of this, so I wonder if any of you even know anyone in a sorority - are you even women? Maybe you're just a bunch of trolls who found an excuse to say something racist.

Puhleeze. Cottom put her piece out there. So we have the right to say in detail exactly why it's misogynistic trash.

-- a woman

Should amend:

- a progressive woman