College Football--Big Ten Expansion

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Anonymous wrote:The Big Ten will never make an offer to Clemson or FSU.

I don't think they will ever offer membership to a non AAU school again. They seem to make about about academic qualifications and they have more teams wanting to join than they have space to accommodate.

Agree that the current rumor is a ploy.

https://aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members

Agree that the Big Ten Conference is unlikely to target Clemson or FSU--but money talks and bs walks. Never say never.

https://outkick.com/big-ten-vetting-expansion-oregon-washington-unc-duke-miami/

In my opinion, FSU 7 about 6 other ACC teams are trying to force change now while major conferences consider expansion and other conferences (Pac-12 and ACC) fight to survive.

The majority of the ACC know they are better off in the ACC than elsewhere and that FSU and Clemson have no choice for more than a decade. U

The ACC has 14 members which play football of which 7 are trying to leave the conference.

7 may be trying, but only 2 seem desperate. UNC/UVA/GT aren't going to cross the Rubicon without assurances

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Anonymous wrote:The Big Ten will never make an offer to Clemson or FSU.

I don't think they will ever offer membership to a non AAU school again. They seem to make about about academic qualifications and they have more teams wanting to join than they have space to accommodate.

Agree that the current rumor is a ploy.

https://aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members

Agree that the Big Ten Conference is unlikely to target Clemson or FSU--but money talks and bs walks. Never say never.

https://outkick.com/big-ten-vetting-expansion-oregon-washington-unc-duke-miami/

In my opinion, FSU 7 about 6 other ACC teams are trying to force change now while major conferences consider expansion and other conferences (Pac-12 and ACC) fight to survive.

The majority of the ACC know they are better off in the ACC than elsewhere and that FSU and Clemson have no choice for more than a decade. U

The ACC has 14 members which play football of which 7 are trying to leave the conference.

7 may be trying, but only 2 seem desperate. UNC/UVA/GT aren't going to cross the Rubicon without assurances

None of the 7 are going to leave without assurances. Why would anyone think otherwise ?

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Anonymous wrote:2022 regular season average viewership for the 16 Big Ten Conference football teams:

1) Ohio State--5.80 million
2) U Michigan--4.37
3) Penn State--3.05
4) USC--2.07
5) Nebraska--1.98
6) Michigan State--1.91
7) U Maryland--1.864
8) UCLA--1.591
9) Wisconsin--1.587
10) Iowa--1.5
11) Indiana--1.19
12) Illinois--1.17
13) Northwestern--1.13
14) Minnesota--1.05
15) Purdue--870,000
16) Rutgers--618,000

Top expansion prospects for Big Ten Conference:

Notre Dame--3.3 million
U Oregon--2.21
FSU--2.03
U Utah--1.16
U Washington--1.15
UCal-Berkely--857,000
UNC--849,000
Stanford--846,000
Georgia Tech--837,000
U Pittsburgh--650,000
U Miami--608,000

Schools like U Virginia--237,000; Duke--115,700; Boston College--322,000 just don't have enough viewership to be attractive to the Big Ten Conference.

Rating reflect which games Fox, CBS and ABC decide to air nationally. ND will always have great rating because they always play on NBC. Teams in the playoff hunt will have great rating because they will get national games. If TCU drops a game or two early, their rating will plummet because they won't be on TV outside of Texas anymore

Agree--especially with respect to the comment about TCU. Nonetheless, the networks select games which viewers want to see. Ratings reflect which games viewers actually watch. Viewers have multiple choices of football games from multiple broadcast & streaming services. No one is clamoring to see more BC or Duke football on national TV.

I know people love a good train wreck, but you can't convince me that anyone actually wanted to see Iowa play last year

Big Ten member Iowa averaged 1,500,000 viewers per regular season game in 2022. Showing Univ. of Iowa on TV is about as dumb as thinking that an NFL franchise could survive in tiny out-of-the-way Green Bay, Wisconsin.

Iowa averaging 1,500,000 viewers with riveting games like a 6-9 loss to Illinois and a 13-10 win over Minnesota proves the point that the conference and not the teams matter

Agree that results of games played in the major conferences like the SEC and the Big Ten matter more to the general public and to the CFP than do schools in less dominant conferences. This is one reason why membership in the Big Ten Conference or in the SEC pay more--and a lot more when CFP playoff is shared.

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CFP playoff money is shared

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by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in either the Big10 or SEC

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Anonymous wrote:by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in either the Big10 or SEC

Lots of meetings going on at FSU among the school's decision makers.

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Ultimately, the SEC will be the football factory schools and the B1G will be the more academically inclined schools that have top football teams. They will both end up with 24 teams and their conferences will make up like 10 of the 12 teams that compete for a national championship every year.

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“ ND will always have great rating because they always play on NBC.”

That could very well change in the near future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Big Ten will never make an offer to Clemson or FSU.

I don't think they will ever offer membership to a non AAU school again. They seem to make about about academic qualifications and they have more teams wanting to join than they have space to accommodate.

I believe they never offered a non AAU school before. Nebraska was a member of the AAU when it joined the B1G.

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Anonymous wrote:by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in either the Big10 or SEC

With Colorado and Arizona bolting, it looks like the the lifeboats are in the water for the PAC…8? Again? For now?

Will be interesting to see in the ACC. The media rights deal is just uncompetitive for FSU & Clemson, but over market for the Wake Forests and Boston Colleges.

That GOR is the final boss. Will someone jump?

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Anonymous wrote:by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in either the Big10 or SEC

With Colorado and Arizona bolting, it looks like the the lifeboats are in the water for the PAC…8? Again? For now?

Will be interesting to see in the ACC. The media rights deal is just uncompetitive for FSU & Clemson, but over market for the Wake Forests and Boston Colleges.

That GOR is the final boss. Will someone jump?

Jump where? The GOR is toxic and bulletproof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in either the Big10 or SEC.

by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in the SEC

The Big Ten will take Stanford and Cal before either of those schools. Yes, academic reputation does matter.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Academic_Alliance

The newer name of the old CIC.

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(OP here)

U Washington & U Oregon to the Big Ten Conference then stratagize how to put additional pressure on Notre Dame.

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Anonymous wrote:https://si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football/college-football-expansion-oregon-washington-insider-reaction

(OP here)

U Washington & U Oregon to the Big Ten Conference then stratagize how to put additional pressure on Notre Dame.

I agree. Washington and Oregon first, and then a pick ‘em out of ND, Stanford, Berkeley, and a few others. Whoever they choose to add, they will be added two at a time, or at least in even numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in either the Big10 or SEC.

by weeks end Clemson and FSU are in the SEC

The Big Ten will take Stanford and Cal before either of those schools. Yes, academic reputation does matter.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Academic_Alliance

The newer name of the old CIC.

If FSU becomes or appears to be headed to the AAU, then they would also be considered.