Massive pentagon leak re Ukraine conflict

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Anonymous wrote:So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?

If it is, so what? What difference does it make? Do you think 14 special forces dudes can take out 200,000 Russian troops? Have you been watching too many action movies?
Again they were probably there as observers, advisors and trainers.

Well a couple of things.

1) We were told that there are no troops on the ground
2) The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.
3) This is what we did in vietnam as advisors/trainers which lead to actual war
4) This means we are actually at war, and Russia can go after us in any way they want

The military said a long time ago that there is a small spec ops team at the embassy. They aren’t in combat. Stop being stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:From the times

Later, someone who appeared to be Airman Teixeira drove onto the property in a red pickup truck.

When Times reporters approached the house again, the truck was parked in the driveway. Airman Teixeira’s mother and a man were standing outside in the driveway.

When asked if Airman Teixeira was there and willing to speak, the man said: “He needs to get an attorney if things are flowing the way they are going right now. The Feds will be around soon, I’m sure.”

The NYT found this guy before the feds did? Wonder if FBI agents refused to investigate the case?

And what does that tell you instinctively?

I'm hoping that the FBI hadn't moved on the guy yet because they'd had him under surveillance???? They aren't really as incompetent as this NYT story make them appear, right??? Right???

I just watched the Boston Bombing doc on Netflix. The FBI had images of the suspects fairly quickly and were determining the identity when someone leaked the images. I got the sense it was BPD, but idk. Anyways, the reason the FBI and DOJ didn't want to release them was b/c they didn't want to alert the bombers that they were on to them. Ultimately, FBI had to get out ahead of the leak, and then there was a lot of death and destruction that followed when they tried to escape. Not to mention the bombers' friends trying to destroy evidence once they recognized who it was.

Revealing that the government has been lying about its involvement in Ukraine? Sounds like whistleblowing.

Where's the big lie?

We've been transparent on equipment being transferred. As for other "involvement" the leak said there were 50 US soldiers in Ukraine. 50. Whoopie doo. Four dozen. Like we're supposed to believe that 50 American soldiers are going to take on 200,000 Russian soldiers? The role of those Americans is no doubt to observe, advise and provide training where needed, pretty standard kind of stuff.

That's a FAR cry from the stupid and ridiculous lies your Russian friends have been telling, that they are "fighting NATO troops" and claims that there were no Ukrainian troops at the front, all black GIs from America and other horsecrap.

You say lie? That's pretty ridiculous.

Their role is most likely Embassy security.

+1. It's never been a secret that there are 50 marines protecting the embassy. It was announced when we reopened it after the invasion.

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MAGA extremist, no matter how much folks here want to claim he's a"libertarian"

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Anonymous wrote:Per the NYTs, these documents would’ve only been viewable in a SCIF. And phones & cameras are banned from SCIFs.

So how did a camera get inside a SCIF?

My money is that this leak is from someone inside Congress

Oh, FFS. Someone in Congress did not leak this.

Perhaps if leaks had been taken more seriously in the past, this crap would not be happening.

People have been leaking stuff for a while now, and very rarely suffer any ramifications.

Republican congressmen showed during the first impeachment that they have no respect for SCIFs.

Exactly. And everyone I know who works in SCIFs is under strict rules about phones and cameras.

I will snicker a little when we find that this leak was from some far-left Democrat trying to impress his friends.

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He’s a “young, charismatic gun enthusiast.”

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Washington Post reporters got hold of members of the Discord channel where the leaks were posted, they know the poster, and said he is in his 20s, currently serving in the military, conservative, gun enthusiast, and he got the documents from a military base that he serves on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/discord-leaked-documents/

Will probably get caught very soon.

Oh this is a lot of stuff being leaked. Not many people have access to all these docs. Should be easy to track him down.

Need to find him like immediately. I don't want to be gruesome, but there's a self-harm risk here.

I would assume that they've already identified him. Heck the WaPo puff piece about him and the kids he groomed has enough detail in it for anyone with subpoena power to easily follow the trail. All that's left now is to find out whether the leaker was just an insecure narcissist trying to impress a bunch of teenagers or something more sinister. Either way the mom from that article needs to hire their son a lawyer ASAP.

Why did the mom let her son speak to WaPo in the first place?! The kid didn’t even obstruct his voice too

Uhm maybe mom wants the protection that comes with being a known entity. If the kid remained anonymous and never said anything to anyone, it would be a lot easier to manipulate him further, if people wanted to. That’s my take anyway. I think it was smart.

Not with what he said to WaPo. Even the journalists writing the article expressed surprise. If the mother was smart, she'd have hired a lawyer, who would have most likely told the kid to shut up, or possibly coached the kid through his interview (very unlikely).

The kid who was interviewed by the Post isn't the leaker - it was one of his young teen acolytes.

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Why do the GOP love traitors so much?

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Anonymous wrote:So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?

If it is, so what? What difference does it make? Do you think 14 special forces dudes can take out 200,000 Russian troops? Have you been watching too many action movies?
Again they were probably there as observers, advisors and trainers.

Well a couple of things.

1) We were told that there are no troops on the ground
2) The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.
3) This is what we did in vietnam as advisors/trainers which lead to actual war
4) This means we are actually at war, and Russia can go after us in any way they want

You really do not know what you are posting about. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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It’s ridiculous that a goof-ass low-level kid in the Aur National Guard had access to all of this. What happened to need to know?

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Anonymous wrote:So is the part about 14 special forces on the ground true?

If it is, so what? What difference does it make? Do you think 14 special forces dudes can take out 200,000 Russian troops? Have you been watching too many action movies?
Again they were probably there as observers, advisors and trainers.

Well a couple of things.

1) We were told that there are no troops on the ground
2) The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.
3) This is what we did in vietnam as advisors/trainers which lead to actual war
4) This means we are actually at war, and Russia can go after us in any way they want

Another voice from the pro-Putin, pro-fascism camp! MAGA!

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Anonymous wrote:Per the NYTs, these documents would’ve only been viewable in a SCIF. And phones & cameras are banned from SCIFs.

So how did a camera get inside a SCIF?

My money is that this leak is from someone inside Congress

Oh, FFS. Someone in Congress did not leak this.

Perhaps if leaks had been taken more seriously in the past, this crap would not be happening.

People have been leaking stuff for a while now, and very rarely suffer any ramifications.

Republican congressmen showed during the first impeachment that they have no respect for SCIFs.

Exactly. And everyone I know who works in SCIFs is under strict rules about phones and cameras.

I will snicker a little when we find that this leak was from some far-left Democrat trying to impress his friends.

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He’s a “young, charismatic gun enthusiast.”

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Washington Post reporters got hold of members of the Discord channel where the leaks were posted, they know the poster, and said he is in his 20s, currently serving in the military, conservative, gun enthusiast, and he got the documents from a military base that he serves on. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/12/discord-leaked-documents/

Will probably get caught very soon.

Oh this is a lot of stuff being leaked. Not many people have access to all these docs. Should be easy to track him down.

Need to find him like immediately. I don't want to be gruesome, but there's a self-harm risk here.

I would assume that they've already identified him. Heck the WaPo puff piece about him and the kids he groomed has enough detail in it for anyone with subpoena power to easily follow the trail. All that's left now is to find out whether the leaker was just an insecure narcissist trying to impress a bunch of teenagers or something more sinister. Either way the mom from that article needs to hire their son a lawyer ASAP.

Why did the mom let her son speak to WaPo in the first place?! The kid didn’t even obstruct his voice too

Uhm maybe mom wants the protection that comes with being a known entity. If the kid remained anonymous and never said anything to anyone, it would be a lot easier to manipulate him further, if people wanted to. That’s my take anyway. I think it was smart.

I am not sure I understand the logic but thank you for replying

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Anonymous wrote:I've no idea what his motive was, but he should be punished in any case.

However, I am more disturbed that so many people have access to so much information.

This should go up the chain of command for negligence--beginning with whoever approved him for this clearance. How much training did this kid get on what would happen if he shared information? Did he get any training on the seriousness of his job?

We hear an awful lot about training on social issues, sexual issues, etc. How much training are these young people getting on the importance of their jobs.

Wow slow down there skippy! That is not how things work and why after Snowden(low level employee) we are seeing the same thing. There will be no comprehensive review as to why a low level employee has access to all the top secret files(many that are outside of his purview), can make copies, just take them home or post on the web(for months before anyone notices).

DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN….you will be arrested! So next times this happens do not ask these type of questions

What bs. There was no way to know this idiot would betray his country for his ego so no one did anything wrong giving him a clearance. People really think that the people vetting candidates for clearances have amazing powers of esp and see the future?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA extremist, no matter how much folks here want to claim he's a"libertarian"

Exactly.

You know they will be checking out his step dad and step brother as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the military ever embarrassed by all the issues in that organization? Both the leak and even having this guy in their service?

Every organization has issues.

Not to this level

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Whistleblower

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Has anyone seen a description of what this kids job was?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA extremist, no matter how much folks here want to claim he's a"libertarian"

Exactly.

You know they will be checking out his step dad and step brother as well.

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In addition he shouted antisemitic and racist epithets? Was convinced he alone knew the truth and he alone could educate his friends? Their dumb discord server was named for a meme from gay porn? Yep. That’s a maga.