Woodward Boundary Study discussion at next BoE meeting

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

DP. For example, it's a pretty solid bet that both Luxmanor and Garrett Park will be reassigned from WJ to Woodward. But there's also an island assignment for Kensington-Parkwood that is directly south of Woodward, so that piece is also likely to be reassigned, but the rest of KP could still remain at WJ, or be reassigned somewhere else.

Don't forget Farmland in the probable Woodward list! It's a perfect time to adjust the KP island on Tuckerman, but doesn't the "no ES changes" mean that they can't do it for ES, only when they would switch to Tilden?

Yes. Any kids currently assigned to KP would stay assigned to KP. But those kids could end up with different assignments for MS or HS.

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MCPS just needs to make a decision. No more wasting money on more studies.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

DP. For example, it's a pretty solid bet that both Luxmanor and Garrett Park will be reassigned from WJ to Woodward. But there's also an island assignment for Kensington-Parkwood that is directly south of Woodward, so that piece is also likely to be reassigned, but the rest of KP could still remain at WJ, or be reassigned somewhere else.

Don't forget Farmland in the probable Woodward list! It's a perfect time to adjust the KP island on Tuckerman, but doesn't the "no ES changes" mean that they can't do it for ES, only when they would switch to Tilden?

Yes. Any kids currently assigned to KP would stay assigned to KP. But those kids could end up with different assignments for MS or HS.

Literally, a kid can be in a TH right next door to Woodward and be zoned for KP at the moment. Split articulation for the relatively small group there isn't ideal, I would think. Maybe they will tinker with ES assignments after they figure out the MS/HS situation?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

DP. For example, it's a pretty solid bet that both Luxmanor and Garrett Park will be reassigned from WJ to Woodward. But there's also an island assignment for Kensington-Parkwood that is directly south of Woodward, so that piece is also likely to be reassigned, but the rest of KP could still remain at WJ, or be reassigned somewhere else.

Don't forget Farmland in the probable Woodward list! It's a perfect time to adjust the KP island on Tuckerman, but doesn't the "no ES changes" mean that they can't do it for ES, only when they would switch to Tilden?

Yes. Any kids currently assigned to KP would stay assigned to KP. But those kids could end up with different assignments for MS or HS.

Literally, a kid can be in a TH right next door to Woodward and be zoned for KP at the moment. Split articulation for the relatively small group there isn't ideal, I would think. Maybe they will tinker with ES assignments after they figure out the MS/HS situation?

The kids in that KP island will stay zoned for KP, because the study isn't going to tinker with any ES assignments. But they could end up as NBMS/Woodward, or Tilden/Woodward (or any number of other combinations).

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS just needs to make a decision. No more wasting money on more studies.

They have to do a boundary study in order to make a decision on new boundaries. That is the only way they can change boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:We will be moving to the area from out of state. We will likely be renting a house in the Whitman neighborhood. Will this new study on boundries affect where my child will go to school? I’m not understanding really what changes will happen to kids living in the neighborhood of their assigned school. What will determine which kids go to which schools? Will it be a lottery? I’m genuinely curious. I would not love the idea of my kid living close to a school but assigned to one that would mean a 30-40 minute bus ride to a different school. Is this a real possibility?

Whitman, Wootton and Churchill clusters will hire lawyers and fight any changes to their sacred boundary changes. And MCPS and the board will cave in out of fear.

Those are the most segregated schools in the county. These days they will loose bigly.

lose big

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

Yes. I think they will try to move entire elementary school zones to different MS and HS zones when they can, but they may not always be able to, given different building capacities.

I would expect 90% of assignments to remain the same based on the different models they released from the study that was done around 2020.

But they weren't factoring in the opening of Woodward and Crown then.

I'm guessing the closer your home school is to say Woodward or Crown the greater the change so nearby schools like WJ or BCC would be more affected than ones that are further away.

Proximity is one of the four factors under consideration, yes.

But it depends on one's definition of "nearby" to Woodward.

Walter Johnson - 1 mile
Wheaton - 4.1 miles
Einstein - 4.4 miles
Whitman - 4.5 miles
B-CC - 4.6 miles
Kennedy - 5.9 miles
Blair - 8.5 miles

It doesn't matter how far away other high schools are, it matters where the neighborhoods are. You could say that anything within 5 miles of Woodward is "nearby". That would include all the neighborhoods between most of those schools, and is halfway to Blair.

Also, the choice isn't just "shift a neighborhood to Woodward or not". There could be some musical chairs. For example, pull a large amount of students from WJ to Woodward, then shift some from Whitman to WJ and backfill some from BCC to Whitman. Or shift that the other way around.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

Yes. I think they will try to move entire elementary school zones to different MS and HS zones when they can, but they may not always be able to, given different building capacities.

I would expect 90% of assignments to remain the same based on the different models they released from the study that was done around 2020.

But they weren't factoring in the opening of Woodward and Crown then.

I'm guessing the closer your home school is to say Woodward or Crown the greater the change so nearby schools like WJ or BCC would be more affected than ones that are further away.

Proximity is one of the four factors under consideration, yes.

But it depends on one's definition of "nearby" to Woodward.

Walter Johnson - 1 mile
Wheaton - 4.1 miles
Einstein - 4.4 miles
Whitman - 4.5 miles
B-CC - 4.6 miles
Kennedy - 5.9 miles
Blair - 8.5 miles

It doesn't matter how far away other high schools are, it matters where the neighborhoods are. You could say that anything within 5 miles of Woodward is "nearby". That would include all the neighborhoods between most of those schools, and is halfway to Blair.

Also, the choice isn't just "shift a neighborhood to Woodward or not". There could be some musical chairs. For example, pull a large amount of students from WJ to Woodward, then shift some from Whitman to WJ and backfill some from BCC to Whitman. Or shift that the other way around.

I wonder how the boundary study will deal with new development that is in the process of populating, like Amalyn?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

Yes. I think they will try to move entire elementary school zones to different MS and HS zones when they can, but they may not always be able to, given different building capacities.

I would expect 90% of assignments to remain the same based on the different models they released from the study that was done around 2020.

But they weren't factoring in the opening of Woodward and Crown then.

I'm guessing the closer your home school is to say Woodward or Crown the greater the change so nearby schools like WJ or BCC would be more affected than ones that are further away.

Proximity is one of the four factors under consideration, yes.

But it depends on one's definition of "nearby" to Woodward.

Walter Johnson - 1 mile
Wheaton - 4.1 miles
Einstein - 4.4 miles
Whitman - 4.5 miles
B-CC - 4.6 miles
Kennedy - 5.9 miles
Blair - 8.5 miles

It doesn't matter how far away other high schools are, it matters where the neighborhoods are. You could say that anything within 5 miles of Woodward is "nearby". That would include all the neighborhoods between most of those schools, and is halfway to Blair.

Also, the choice isn't just "shift a neighborhood to Woodward or not". There could be some musical chairs. For example, pull a large amount of students from WJ to Woodward, then shift some from Whitman to WJ and backfill some from BCC to Whitman. Or shift that the other way around.

I wonder how the boundary study will deal with new development that is in the process of populating, like Amalyn?

That's one reason they won't be making the final decisions until 2025, so they can have the most up-to-date enrollment numbers and projections.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

Yes. I think they will try to move entire elementary school zones to different MS and HS zones when they can, but they may not always be able to, given different building capacities.

I would expect 90% of assignments to remain the same based on the different models they released from the study that was done around 2020.

But they weren't factoring in the opening of Woodward and Crown then.

I'm guessing the closer your home school is to say Woodward or Crown the greater the change so nearby schools like WJ or BCC would be more affected than ones that are further away.

Proximity is one of the four factors under consideration, yes.

But it depends on one's definition of "nearby" to Woodward.

Walter Johnson - 1 mile
Wheaton - 4.1 miles
Einstein - 4.4 miles
Whitman - 4.5 miles
B-CC - 4.6 miles
Kennedy - 5.9 miles
Blair - 8.5 miles

It doesn't matter how far away other high schools are, it matters where the neighborhoods are. You could say that anything within 5 miles of Woodward is "nearby". That would include all the neighborhoods between most of those schools, and is halfway to Blair.

Also, the choice isn't just "shift a neighborhood to Woodward or not". There could be some musical chairs. For example, pull a large amount of students from WJ to Woodward, then shift some from Whitman to WJ and backfill some from BCC to Whitman. Or shift that the other way around.

You cannot have Whitman kids with Wheaton kids. People purposely moved to get away from those families.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS just needs to make a decision. No more wasting money on more studies.

They have to do a boundary study in order to make a decision on new boundaries. That is the only way they can change boundaries.

They can change the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

Yes. I think they will try to move entire elementary school zones to different MS and HS zones when they can, but they may not always be able to, given different building capacities.

I would expect 90% of assignments to remain the same based on the different models they released from the study that was done around 2020.

But they weren't factoring in the opening of Woodward and Crown then.

I'm guessing the closer your home school is to say Woodward or Crown the greater the change so nearby schools like WJ or BCC would be more affected than ones that are further away.

Proximity is one of the four factors under consideration, yes.

But it depends on one's definition of "nearby" to Woodward.

Walter Johnson - 1 mile
Wheaton - 4.1 miles
Einstein - 4.4 miles
Whitman - 4.5 miles
B-CC - 4.6 miles
Kennedy - 5.9 miles
Blair - 8.5 miles

It doesn't matter how far away other high schools are, it matters where the neighborhoods are. You could say that anything within 5 miles of Woodward is "nearby". That would include all the neighborhoods between most of those schools, and is halfway to Blair.

Also, the choice isn't just "shift a neighborhood to Woodward or not". There could be some musical chairs. For example, pull a large amount of students from WJ to Woodward, then shift some from Whitman to WJ and backfill some from BCC to Whitman. Or shift that the other way around.

You cannot have Whitman kids with Wheaton kids. People purposely moved to get away from those families.

Stay classy, DCUM!

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS just needs to make a decision. No more wasting money on more studies.

They have to do a boundary study in order to make a decision on new boundaries. That is the only way they can change boundaries.

They can change the rules.

I'm confused, it feels like they need to consider a lot of factors to make this decision. You really don't want them to study it first?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

Yes. I think they will try to move entire elementary school zones to different MS and HS zones when they can, but they may not always be able to, given different building capacities.

I would expect 90% of assignments to remain the same based on the different models they released from the study that was done around 2020.

But they weren't factoring in the opening of Woodward and Crown then.

I'm guessing the closer your home school is to say Woodward or Crown the greater the change so nearby schools like WJ or BCC would be more affected than ones that are further away.

Proximity is one of the four factors under consideration, yes.

But it depends on one's definition of "nearby" to Woodward.

Walter Johnson - 1 mile
Wheaton - 4.1 miles
Einstein - 4.4 miles
Whitman - 4.5 miles
B-CC - 4.6 miles
Kennedy - 5.9 miles
Blair - 8.5 miles

It doesn't matter how far away other high schools are, it matters where the neighborhoods are. You could say that anything within 5 miles of Woodward is "nearby". That would include all the neighborhoods between most of those schools, and is halfway to Blair.

Also, the choice isn't just "shift a neighborhood to Woodward or not". There could be some musical chairs. For example, pull a large amount of students from WJ to Woodward, then shift some from Whitman to WJ and backfill some from BCC to Whitman. Or shift that the other way around.

Yes, but they're not going to backfill to WJ because one of the main drivers of reopening Woodward is to relieve the massive overcrowding at WJ.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what it means that they're not considering elementary school boundaries. Does this mean that they could tweak MS/HS boundaries and leave elementaries with split articulations? Or does it mean that they will change the assignments for entire elementaries to different MS/HS? Or some of both?

Sounds like it means nobody will be reassigned to a different elementary as a result of this process. But where those elementaries feed into can be changed including split articulations.

Yes. I think they will try to move entire elementary school zones to different MS and HS zones when they can, but they may not always be able to, given different building capacities.

I would expect 90% of assignments to remain the same based on the different models they released from the study that was done around 2020.

But they weren't factoring in the opening of Woodward and Crown then.

I'm guessing the closer your home school is to say Woodward or Crown the greater the change so nearby schools like WJ or BCC would be more affected than ones that are further away.

Proximity is one of the four factors under consideration, yes.

But it depends on one's definition of "nearby" to Woodward.

Walter Johnson - 1 mile
Wheaton - 4.1 miles
Einstein - 4.4 miles
Whitman - 4.5 miles
B-CC - 4.6 miles
Kennedy - 5.9 miles
Blair - 8.5 miles

It doesn't matter how far away other high schools are, it matters where the neighborhoods are. You could say that anything within 5 miles of Woodward is "nearby". That would include all the neighborhoods between most of those schools, and is halfway to Blair.

Also, the choice isn't just "shift a neighborhood to Woodward or not". There could be some musical chairs. For example, pull a large amount of students from WJ to Woodward, then shift some from Whitman to WJ and backfill some from BCC to Whitman. Or shift that the other way around.

Yes, but they're not going to backfill to WJ because one of the main drivers of reopening Woodward is to relieve the massive overcrowding at WJ.

True, but I could envision a scenario where Tilden and its 3 feeders are rezoned to Woodward, which would leave WJ too far under capacity. So they could shift some other boundaries (BCC, Whitman) to send more kids to WJ.