Feel like a fish out of water in Vienna

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

Personally, I'd rather live around a live wire who has opinions and curses occasionally than the polite but gossipy, backstabbing types so common in Vienna.

What the heck do you people with your neighbors? I live in Vienna, I mind my own business. I know my neighbors but I don’t sit and talk to them as if they are my best friends and expect the world from them. Y’all are a bunch of bored housewives talking up a storm. Calling Bravo to cast you guys, at least we can get some entertainment on the screen 📺

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

Personally, I'd rather live around a live wire who has opinions and curses occasionally than the polite but gossipy, backstabbing types so common in Vienna.

x1 billion

I’ll take brash, honest, and compassionate over polite, backstabbing, and “conservative”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

I'm the one who wrote the post you're +-ing and I think you're missing my point. The issue isn't about cursing or being vocal about social injustice -- that's great. I think it was OP's assertion that everyone in Vienna is conformist and tightly wound and not as enlightened or cool as she is.

[Anonymous]

it just sounds like OP is insecure in her choices.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t found it that uniform at all. Maybe that’s because I moved from a large midwestern city that was way more of a small town, stay in line, vibe. And even though that “line” was very progressive I found the social circle simply too small. I like that in Vienna, probably like most of the dc metro, you can also have some freedom and anonymity. You don’t always know exactly what your neighbors are doing. I do feel there’s more of a mix here that includes some repubs and religious folks but I don’t mind that. My own friends tend to be progressive. I guess I just got lucky with who my kids became friends with and the few moms I met around

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

Personally, I'd rather live around a live wire who has opinions and curses occasionally than the polite but gossipy, backstabbing types so common in Vienna.

What the heck do you people with your neighbors? I live in Vienna, I mind my own business. I know my neighbors but I don’t sit and talk to them as if they are my best friends and expect the world from them. Y’all are a bunch of bored housewives talking up a storm. Calling Bravo to cast you guys, at least we can get some entertainment on the screen 📺

Also from Vienna, and I am puzzled too. I am not here to make best friends with the neighbors. If it happens - I'd be thrilled, but so far, the furthest we go in our "friendships" is exchanging pleasantries, donating baby gear, and gardening tips. And it works for me too. My kids' friends' parents are lovely, but I don't see us vacationing or going out for drinks. I have my pe-kids friends and former coworkers for that.

[Anonymous]

The reason Vienna is “polite” is because there has been a diverse range of views here for many years.

You have the OGs that moved in in the 70s. They’re definitely conservative. Then there’s the wave of folks who now have adult kids, another wave of families that have high school or college kids now, and then another wave of families with young kids more recently.

The political spectrum is broad but (at least in TOV) we are also a town that values community. So getting along with the neighbors goes hand in hand with that. We aren’t besties. But we do look out for each other regardless of whether or not we agree on hot button topics.

I don’t understand why the OP feels the need to discuss hot button issues with neighbors. To ‘rock the boat’ with your neighbors. They’re not your friend group, not your close circle, not your family. I feel like there’s some sort of social cues missing for the OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

Personally, I'd rather live around a live wire who has opinions and curses occasionally than the polite but gossipy, backstabbing types so common in Vienna.

x1 billion

I’ll take brash, honest, and compassionate over polite, backstabbing, and “conservative”.

Have friends in Takoma, and so many of their neighbors feel progressive and liberal just because they live in Takoma. Yet, their kids attend private schools, and their involvement in social justice issues doesn't exceed "hate has no home here" yard signs, being loudmouths, and waiting to get offended. The neighborhood friend groups are also very homogeneous regarding their SES and race.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

Personally, I'd rather live around a live wire who has opinions and curses occasionally than the polite but gossipy, backstabbing types so common in Vienna.

Is swearing a bit that big a deal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason Vienna is “polite” is because there has been a diverse range of views here for many years.

You have the OGs that moved in in the 70s. They’re definitely conservative. Then there’s the wave of folks who now have adult kids, another wave of families that have high school or college kids now, and then another wave of families with young kids more recently.

The political spectrum is broad but (at least in TOV) we are also a town that values community. So getting along with the neighbors goes hand in hand with that. We aren’t besties. But we do look out for each other regardless of whether or not we agree on hot button topics.

I don’t understand why the OP feels the need to discuss hot button issues with neighbors. To ‘rock the boat’ with your neighbors. They’re not your friend group, not your close circle, not your family. I feel like there’s some sort of social cues missing for the OP.

The defense of utter blandness isn’t surprising at all. It’s what Vienna does best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason Vienna is “polite” is because there has been a diverse range of views here for many years.

You have the OGs that moved in in the 70s. They’re definitely conservative. Then there’s the wave of folks who now have adult kids, another wave of families that have high school or college kids now, and then another wave of families with young kids more recently.

The political spectrum is broad but (at least in TOV) we are also a town that values community. So getting along with the neighbors goes hand in hand with that. We aren’t besties. But we do look out for each other regardless of whether or not we agree on hot button topics.

I don’t understand why the OP feels the need to discuss hot button issues with neighbors. To ‘rock the boat’ with your neighbors. They’re not your friend group, not your close circle, not your family. I feel like there’s some sort of social cues missing for the OP.

The defense of utter blandness isn’t surprising at all. It’s what Vienna does best.

Good thing there are plenty of other options for you out there. Head back to DC or to where DCUM thinks the holy land of progressive thought is in Takoma Park. It’s a big world out there, instead of putting a place down for not being edgy enough for you, find your slice of heaven on earth.

Your blandness is my place of peace. Isn’t it great that we don’t have to all think in lockstep?

[Anonymous]

The fact that you are divorced is not all all surprising. You are defcon level annoying. Doubtful you could
Make friends anywhere

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

Personally, I'd rather live around a live wire who has opinions and curses occasionally than the polite but gossipy, backstabbing types so common in Vienna.

Is swearing a bit that big a deal?

It is to conservatives. They want to burn it all down, politely.

Doesn’t that insurrectionist congressman live in Vienna? It’s a-ok to storm the Capitol, but don’t even think about cursing.

[Anonymous]

God 19 pages about a narcissistic woman who needs attention in her new neighborhood? Now she needs it here too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, most people can freely express their views on this site - about communities, houses, schools, etc - and when other posters push back, it's usually to try to rebut the specific criticism that's been voiced. But in all my time reading this Real Estate forum, I don't think i've ever seen such a weird sustained barrage of personal attacks on an OP -- "no, OP is the problem, she sounds like a real b****, doesn't she? i know people like her, ugh."

Honestly, if these other posters were trying to prove her point about the unwelcoming and problematic personalities in Vienna (who knows where they hail from, but something in her comment about Vienna triggered them), they couldn't have done better job.

I cannot believe this thread is still going and with the same level of vitriol as 10 pages ago. Our family lives in Vienna and is always trying to convince us to move. We went to see a few homes last weekend. After reading this thread, I can firmly say no freaking way. We are super happy where we are.

OP’s post was ridiculous and people are responding in kind in a somewhat tongue in cheek way. It’s ok.

+1. OP's post could have been phrased as "I lean more liberal and am feeling out of place in conservative leaning Vienna" and I think responding posts would have been more empathetic. The fact that she uses words like "conformist" and "tightly-wound' showed that she thought 1) everyone was the same and 2) she was better than everyone.

At the end of the day, not all neighborhoods are meant for everyone and I truly hope OP finds a community but to think people in Vienna are beneath her because of her particular parenting style or politics is unfair.

+2. Also OP turned off a lot of potential sympathizers with this: "I’m pretty vocal about social injustice and I curse a lot — I don’t really buy into the “don’t rock the boat” ethos around me." Nobody, but nobody, wants to live around that person.

Personally, I'd rather live around a live wire who has opinions and curses occasionally than the polite but gossipy, backstabbing types so common in Vienna.

Is swearing a bit that big a deal?

It is to conservatives. They want to burn it all down, politely.

Doesn’t that insurrectionist congressman live in Vienna? It’s a-ok to storm the Capitol, but don’t even think about cursing.

Josh Hawley lives or was living in Vienna around the time of the January 6th insurrection. Apparently he looked around for the place with the most pious, sanctimonious haters and decided he could do no better.