Waitlisted at TJ - now what?

[Anonymous]

If the argument is that all of the top 10 in mathcounts state, all AIME qualifiers, all Science Olympiad state winners or nationals participants etc from a school got admitted to TJ, it shouldn’t be that difficult for PP to name the school.

I don’t buy for a second that any teacher is handed a list of the kids from their school who got into TJ. I also don’t buy that some teacher was stalking the STEM ECs for the 200+ TJ applicants from their school to be confident in any way that all of the top kids were getting in.

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Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Out of curiosity, how do you know who the “very top” Longfellow kids are? And how do you know that more than half of these were accepted? That is a lot of personal information that you keep track of and that FCPS does not publish.

It is likely that many kids don’t know how their parents responded to the parents’ part of the form and are curious. Many parents are trying to avoid embarrassment with their own kids and that likely explains the PPs claim above.

Nobody really knows who the very top kids are….

The very top kids in my mind are those top students in math counts, science Olympiad, Quizbowl, AMC8/AMC10 etc. Longfellow has the most national award winners in FCPS. In my observation, most of these kids end up being accepted in TJ.

Kids know who got accepted, waitlisted, or rejected.

And some of them said yes on the meals question.

At our school the top kids were accepted, but many of the second string who might make the cut in the past with thousands of dollars in outside prep did not. It seems like the new process is working as intended.

At our school, the top kid was accepted. The rest of the top kids were not accepted. It looks like the second string was not accepted either.

Same at our school. 1 of the top 15 or son cohort accepted. The others that were accepted were middling and certainly at a lower level of Math and STEM EC participation. In a weird way, it seems like the process is working as intended.

As a teacher at one of the top schools, I can safely say the very top kids were accepted. Many parents don't have all the info and make a lot of assumptions, but the county did a great job finding the best of the best.

Name the school, or it didn't happen. Are teachers even given a list of who got selected for TJ? Also, I highly doubt that even a regular teacher at a middle school could say with any assurance that the top kids got in. Hypothetically, let's say you're the 8th grade AAP science teacher. You're going to teach like 150 kids total out of 300+ AAP kids, which is hardly great coverage of the grade to definitively state that the best kids were taken. Even if you were the Science Olympiad coach, you're not interacting with the Mathcounts or robotics whizzes.

Just admit that you're trolling and making stuff up to try to support your agenda. It's blatantly obvious.

the winners of STEM EC activities are usually the top kids. It's not hard to know who are they.

Nice dodge. The TJ application does not include a section for ECs or achievements, and there is no indication that they're giving any weight to those. Are the members of the selection panel psychics to be able to determine who these top kids are and offer admissions?

If the "teacher" is so sure that all of the very top kids at their Longfellow/Carson/Rocky Run/Frost/etc. school got accepted, then name the school.

When you have awards as the proofs, it is easy to make a good portrait.
I do think FCPS should create a database to record these awards and show them on FCPS website.

Awards aren't included in the portrait. Wouldn't you have to weave your Science Olympiad national placement into your essay about how Michelle Obama inspires you to have it considered? Also, they didn't verify any national awards. Anyone could claim anything without the TJ selection panel knowing. Plus, haven't people argued that awards and ECs shouldn't even be considered, since not every single MS has the same access?

Again, those TJ reviewers must be psychic. They have no real way of knowing which kids are the nationally recognized outliers, yet they miraculously picked all of them from some ex-TJ feeder MS based on the scant info in the application. Of course, the reality is that the person who is claiming to be a teacher is the same poster who has had like a thousand posts about how the classes of 2025 and 2026 are the strongest ever, and the process is finding talent over prep. They are determined to rewrite reality so the new process is the best thing ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the argument is that all of the top 10 in mathcounts state, all AIME qualifiers, all Science Olympiad state winners or nationals participants etc from a school got admitted to TJ, it shouldn’t be that difficult for PP to name the school.

I don’t buy for a second that any teacher is handed a list of the kids from their school who got into TJ. I also don’t buy that some teacher was stalking the STEM ECs for the 200+ TJ applicants from their school to be confident in any way that all of the top kids were getting in.

Not to mention that what allegedly happened at that school doesn't have any bearing on what happened at other schools...

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Anonymous wrote:If you child was denied, but you did not file an appeal, any chance the FRMS scandal will change the outcome?

It is a mess, so who knows.

For some of the schools, it would not surprise me if ALL of the kids who were accepted checked yes and ALMOST all of the waitlisted kids checked yes. All of the honest kids were rejected.

What will TJ Admissions do then? How will it look when Longfellow has only a handful of admissions after they clean out all the false “Yes” answers.

I know a ton of Longfellow kids that got waitlisted. These were not families that would have lied. I only know a few kids that were accepted. These are also not families that would have lied. The kids that were accepted are perfectly deserving of being accepted, great students, but so are the kids that weren’t accepted. It just appears random. My child didn’t apply so I have no personal stake, but many of child’s friends applied.

More than half of the very top longfellow kids were accepted. I mean very top. Some were left in the waiting pool.
There are also students who are not very strong got accepted. Probably these are the free meal students.
Anyway, the longfellow admission is not like somebody imagined that all accepted and waitlisted students are free meal students.

Out of curiosity, how do you know who the “very top” Longfellow kids are? And how do you know that more than half of these were accepted? That is a lot of personal information that you keep track of and that FCPS does not publish.

It is likely that many kids don’t know how their parents responded to the parents’ part of the form and are curious. Many parents are trying to avoid embarrassment with their own kids and that likely explains the PPs claim above.

Nobody really knows who the very top kids are….

The very top kids in my mind are those top students in math counts, science Olympiad, Quizbowl, AMC8/AMC10 etc. Longfellow has the most national award winners in FCPS. In my observation, most of these kids end up being accepted in TJ.

Kids know who got accepted, waitlisted, or rejected.

And some of them said yes on the meals question.

At our school the top kids were accepted, but many of the second string who might make the cut in the past with thousands of dollars in outside prep did not. It seems like the new process is working as intended.

At our school, the top kid was accepted. The rest of the top kids were not accepted. It looks like the second string was not accepted either.

Same at our school. 1 of the top 15 or son cohort accepted. The others that were accepted were middling and certainly at a lower level of Math and STEM EC participation. In a weird way, it seems like the process is working as intended.

As a teacher at one of the top schools, I can safely say the very top kids were accepted. Many parents don't have all the info and make a lot of assumptions, but the county did a great job finding the best of the best.

Name the school, or it didn't happen. Are teachers even given a list of who got selected for TJ? Also, I highly doubt that even a regular teacher at a middle school could say with any assurance that the top kids got in. Hypothetically, let's say you're the 8th grade AAP science teacher. You're going to teach like 150 kids total out of 300+ AAP kids, which is hardly great coverage of the grade to definitively state that the best kids were taken. Even if you were the Science Olympiad coach, you're not interacting with the Mathcounts or robotics whizzes.

Just admit that you're trolling and making stuff up to try to support your agenda. It's blatantly obvious.

the winners of STEM EC activities are usually the top kids. It's not hard to know who are they.

Nice dodge. The TJ application does not include a section for ECs or achievements, and there is no indication that they're giving any weight to those. Are the members of the selection panel psychics to be able to determine who these top kids are and offer admissions?

If the "teacher" is so sure that all of the very top kids at their Longfellow/Carson/Rocky Run/Frost/etc. school got accepted, then name the school.

When you have awards as the proofs, it is easy to make a good portrait.
I do think FCPS should create a database to record these awards and show them on FCPS website.

Awards aren't included in the portrait. Wouldn't you have to weave your Science Olympiad national placement into your essay about how Michelle Obama inspires you to have it considered? Also, they didn't verify any national awards. Anyone could claim anything without the TJ selection panel knowing. Plus, haven't people argued that awards and ECs shouldn't even be considered, since not every single MS has the same access?

Again, those TJ reviewers must be psychic. They have no real way of knowing which kids are the nationally recognized outliers, yet they miraculously picked all of them from some ex-TJ feeder MS based on the scant info in the application. Of course, the reality is that the person who is claiming to be a teacher is the same poster who has had like a thousand posts about how the classes of 2025 and 2026 are the strongest ever, and the process is finding talent over prep. They are determined to rewrite reality so the new process is the best thing ever.

Wait.

Hold up.

One of the TJ admissions essays was about how Michelle Obama inspires you?

This has got to be false.

[Anonymous]

Based on the article posted about the 4 kids from class of 2025, one if the girls said she wrote about how Michelle Obama inspired her in her portrait sheet. The question was probably a general one about which famous person inspires you and why.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the article posted about the 4 kids from class of 2025, one if the girls said she wrote about how Michelle Obama inspired her in her portrait sheet. The question was probably a general one about which famous person inspires you and why.

Inspired to marry a guy that becomes President?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the winners of STEM EC activities are usually the top kids. It's not hard to know who are they.

Nice dodge. The TJ application does not include a section for ECs or achievements, and there is no indication that they're giving any weight to those. Are the members of the selection panel psychics to be able to determine who these top kids are and offer admissions?

If the "teacher" is so sure that all of the very top kids at their Longfellow/Carson/Rocky Run/Frost/etc. school got accepted, then name the school.



The teacher, or the poster, is saying they can identify the top kids without teaching everyone, because these top students are winning various awards.
Also they are saying this group was getting in.

[Anonymous]

Anyone get off the waitlist today?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone get off the wai

tlist today?

Yes my friends daughter moved from waitlisted to accepted.
I didn't get any email for my son who is waitlisted

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone get off the wai

tlist today?

Yes my friends daughter moved from waitlisted to accepted.
I didn't get any email for my son who is waitlisted

BS, not one person in Rocky, Carson, or Longfellow (the feeder schools) got off waitlist yet. My son is friends with all the top kids in those schools, and nobody has gotten in yet according to all of my friends. My son goes to Rocky BTW. Furthermore, applicants from last week were supposed to accept their offers by the 24th. Why would they offer admission right after they receive application responses? They need time to process things.

[Anonymous]

PP, what do you mean by applicants from last week? I just saw that online..we are waitlisted since couple of weeks. Do we need to anything? Do you think we may hear something this week?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, what do you mean by applicants from last week? I just saw that online..we are waitlisted since couple of weeks. Do we need to anything? Do you think we may hear something this week?

Students from last week were taken off waitlist due to FARMS adjustments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, what do you mean by applicants from last week? I just saw that online..we are waitlisted since couple of weeks. Do we need to anything? Do you think we may hear something this week?

Pretty sure this friday will see waitlist movement.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, what do you mean by applicants from last week? I just saw that online..we are waitlisted since couple of weeks. Do we need to anything? Do you think we may hear something this week?

Students from last week were taken off waitlist due to FARMS adjustments.

I don’t the FARMs kids have been kicked out yet. There would be a lot more movement.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, what do you mean by applicants from last week? I just saw that online..we are waitlisted since couple of weeks. Do we need to anything? Do you think we may hear something this week?

Students from last week were taken off waitlist due to FARMS adjustments.

I don’t the FARMs kids have been kicked out yet. There would be a lot more movement.

Students from Carson and Frost were kicked out. It was only a few. The numbers match up.