Kate's New Picture

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I always respect Tina Brown's perspective on the royal family, she gets the psychology right. She makes a great point. One taped appearance by Kate, perhaps thanking well wishers or even a picture of her reading the cards from well wishers (a common move they have employed before ) would make a lot of it go away...and yet it's not happening.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13187897/amp/Kate-photoshop-William-palace-fake-MAUREEN-CALLAHAN.html Hightlighting this part below because she's right.

'I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused,' she continued.

Note that 'we'. She didn't do this alone. A release such as this goes through many layers, through aides and private secretaries, and perhaps even the King.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you guys posting X links pretty please give a quick summary for those of us unable to access at work?


One of them said this:

"I mean, really, the Kate Middleton thing is about the royal family having power without accountability, and their relationship with a subservient press that would rather keep on their good side instead of telling the truth."

Which is spot on.


Uh, I think they're missing the point. The "power" that the royal family has is a deal with the press - and tradition. What power do they think requires "accouthnability"? The press could change their agreement with the BRF and vice versa. Tradition is a different beast - but the BRF does not have the type of power that the link is implying.


Yes they do. They have money, access to people at high levels of government/business/NGO world, titles that enable them to influence people at these levels (at least the king and prince of Wales do, other titles matter much less), etc. The idea that the BRF is powerless is ridiculous. If they were actually powerless, people would just take their money and properties and jewels and titles away. And also they would never be able to get that "deal" with the press. Sure they, and you, can call it "tradition." That's a code word the BRF uses to justify their existence. But it's power. And they know it, too. They'll pretend they don't have it because that is in their interest (many, many powerless people will claim they have no power as a way of shielding themselves from being held accountable, it happens all the time), but they do.
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Anonymous wrote:Ewwwww I feel so sad for Rose and her sister being married to those gross old men


It feels like classy human trafficking, tbh.

She has a striking look....and then she's next to this old dude who looks like her uncle. Blech.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently William doesn’t live at adalaide cottage….and that’s well known. She lives there alone w/kids.
Guys - dig into British media


Read that:
- Kate and William don't live together.
- She lives in Windsor close to her parents. - He lives in KP and Amner Hall (who lives close to Amner? Rose…. whose husband is reportedly gay)…


Just looked Rose up. I don’t know that I believe the affair. I mean, he could have just married her if he loved her, she is an aristocrat and would have likely been suitable wife. BUT…poor Rose. Her husband is so old. Why?? What was she thinking. She is 39 and he is 64!


Her sister also married a much older titled guy. Wanting titles and wealth running the family.


Pippa is 40 and her husband is 48.


The Middleton women met rich men because they were from a family that had become rich. Both women married former friends, not the first random rich dude who would have them. Believe me, they had options.


Carole Middleton is a modern day Mrs. Bennett. Kate and pippa “married well” because carole was strategic in where her daughters went to school and in whom they socialized with.

Pippa in particular married well because she did so on Kate’s coattails. In fact, pippa arguably married better than Kate. A never before married billionaire who’s a private citizen. They live in a 30 million pound mansion and his parents own a resort in st Barths. Pippa doesn’t work and writes the occasional op Ed in a woman’s health magazine on the benefits of swimming daily in pregnancy (the luxury.) while kate lives in 400 year old houses, has to never upstage her husband, and has to live an extremely public life. Kate chose this and made her bed for status, but pippa benefited more than she did.
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Anonymous wrote:My original fantasy (in addition to Crohn's or eating disorder treatment) was that that she was pregnant, and had an ectopic pregnancy (that was deeply emotionally and physically traumatic) which perhaps also resulted in an emergency hysterectomy. I suspected she was then mourning not only the pregnancy but future pregnancies, essentially needing healing physically and emotionally because she was depressed, understandably. (Perhaps she was also at risk of sepsis and the situation was quite serious). BUT hearing now about the marriage and the picture fiasco makes me indeed wonder if they are separating or in a deep marital crisis. Reports of his drinking provide more fodder as well as the odd timing of reports whereby it was stated that William and nanny were handling school runs followed by close declarations that HER family was circling the wagons and doing much of the caregiving. Multiple things can be happening at once (individual issues, marital crisis, larger family dynamics...perhaps Charles is very ill and they are reeling as they prepare to take over years earlier than expected and scrambling, particularly if the marriage is also troubled). Intuitively, it feels like it is a troubled marriage which is deeply sad if true.


I had an ectopic pregnancy and you only need 2 weeks to one month off to recover from the surgery. Also it’s not “planned” surgery, instead it’s an emergency they figure out and immediately operate on.


The sudden cancelation of her scheduled events plus footage of ambulance on 12/28 have made many suspect hers was not planned but was possibly an emergency. Complications or mental health or marital issues may have been a factor in extending her time off. Several things can be happening at once and based on the level of cover up and vaguesness....I would argue that's probably more likely. Several simultaneous issues...medical, marital, mental health, extended familial coukd be happening. The Queen, the stabilizing force, is gone. And it shows.
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Anonymous wrote:I always respect Tina Brown's perspective on the royal family, she gets the psychology right. She makes a great point. One taped appearance by Kate, perhaps thanking well wishers or even a picture of her reading the cards from well wishers (a common move they have employed before ) would make a lot of it go away...and yet it's not happening.


That’s what Charles did—a short video of him reading Get Well Soon cards.

There’s much, much less speculation about Charles, yet he’s the current king and has cancer. His team handled things much better.
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Anonymous wrote:Ewwwww I feel so sad for Rose and her sister being married to those gross old men


It feels like classy human trafficking, tbh.

She has a striking look....and then she's next to this old dude who looks like her uncle. Blech.



The Hanbury sisters both had a choice in the matter. So did Kate, for that matter.
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Anonymous wrote:I always respect Tina Brown's perspective on the royal family, she gets the psychology right. She makes a great point. One taped appearance by Kate, perhaps thanking well wishers or even a picture of her reading the cards from well wishers (a common move they have employed before ) would make a lot of it go away...and yet it's not happening.


That’s what Charles did—a short video of him reading Get Well Soon cards.

There’s much, much less speculation about Charles, yet he’s the current king and has cancer. His team handled things much better.


I agree. However, people like Kate more than William or Charles.
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Anonymous wrote:I always respect Tina Brown's perspective on the royal family, she gets the psychology right. She makes a great point. One taped appearance by Kate, perhaps thanking well wishers or even a picture of her reading the cards from well wishers (a common move they have employed before ) would make a lot of it go away...and yet it's not happening.


They could pretend to ignore the speculation by doing a video for one of her charities - congratulating them for a specific milestone or something. But nope nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:Great points here

https://x.com/chrisbrosnahan/status/1767203060344934774


He seems to see all this as an opportunity to cape for MM.
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Anonymous wrote:I always respect Tina Brown's perspective on the royal family, she gets the psychology right. She makes a great point. One taped appearance by Kate, perhaps thanking well wishers or even a picture of her reading the cards from well wishers (a common move they have employed before ) would make a lot of it go away...and yet it's not happening.


This is an excellent point. Throw on some make-up, get the hair done, sit behind a desk, and say thank you for the well wishes.

I know any number of women who had mastectomies, started chemo, and managed to return to work in less time than Kate has taken to date. Without make-up artists and hair stylists. Yes Kate doesn’t have to keep a job to put food on the table, but she could do the bare minimum of walking downstairs to the home office, utter a few words, and have put much of this to rest by know.
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Anonymous wrote:Apparently William doesn’t live at adalaide cottage….and that’s well known. She lives there alone w/kids.
Guys - dig into British media


Read that:
- Kate and William don't live together.
- She lives in Windsor close to her parents. - He lives in KP and Amner Hall (who lives close to Amner? Rose…. whose husband is reportedly gay)…


Just looked Rose up. I don’t know that I believe the affair. I mean, he could have just married her if he loved her, she is an aristocrat and would have likely been suitable wife. BUT…poor Rose. Her husband is so old. Why?? What was she thinking. She is 39 and he is 64!


Her sister also married a much older titled guy. Wanting titles and wealth running the family.


Pippa is 40 and her husband is 48.


No, the PP was referring to Rose Hanbury's sister.

In 2011, Marina Hanbury (age 29) became the 3rd wife to Edward Lambton, 7th Earl of Durham (age 51)...a 22 year age gap.

Here's a photo of them in 2011, I think this may be at their civil wedding ceremony:



As far as I tell, I think the Hanbury's are middle class peerage. Their historical family previously had an estate in Essex, but they lost it generations ago. Per Wikipedia, their father is (was?) a website designer. Doesn't exactly sound like they are rolling in the dough.







Somebody still has some dough....that coat she is wearing is AMAZING and must have cost a fortune


The old dude she married is worth nearly a quarter of a billion dollars, mostly in real estate holdings. That's who paid for the coat.
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Anonymous wrote:Rose Hanbury’s grandmother was a bridesmaid in QEII’s wedding. I don’t know whether that implies “middle peerage” or whatnot, but clearly it’s an upper class family.


The confusion here is with the word "class" which in the US has come to mostly refer to economic factors -- how much money your family has. The "upper class" in the US, at this point, just refers to people with money.

Traditionally, "class" referred to your social class, and it was possible for someone to be upper class but not have money. Likewise the French word "bourgeois" refers to people who are socially middle class (not aristocracy) but have money (and thus are perceived as being crass because they have money but don't have the manners or traditions of the upper class).

All of this is confusing to most Americans beyond a small population of WASP and immigrant "elites" who still subscribe to these ideas. But the system is still alive and well in the UK.

Rose Hanbury's family is "upper class" in that they had historical connections to the aristocracy. But they were generations removed from when their family held actual land and titles, and thus economically more middle class (by US standards, they would actually have been considered more UMC or even UC, as they are white collar and artistic professionals, not school teachers and firefighters). Rose and her sister were considered pretty and well-mannered but poor (again, by British aristocracy standards) and thus good candidates for marriage by wealthy, titled men who wanted attractive, artistic wives and didn't care so much as marrying into money.
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Anonymous wrote:I always respect Tina Brown's perspective on the royal family, she gets the psychology right. She makes a great point. One taped appearance by Kate, perhaps thanking well wishers or even a picture of her reading the cards from well wishers (a common move they have employed before ) would make a lot of it go away...and yet it's not happening.


This is an excellent point. Throw on some make-up, get the hair done, sit behind a desk, and say thank you for the well wishes.

I know any number of women who had mastectomies, started chemo, and managed to return to work in less time than Kate has taken to date. Without make-up artists and hair stylists. Yes Kate doesn’t have to keep a job to put food on the table, but she could do the bare minimum of walking downstairs to the home office, utter a few words, and have put much of this to rest by know.


Sorry, “now”
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