Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

I don't think he was trying to get out of paying as if he was stealing the bike, he wouldn't have redocked it. It looks like you can pay a monthly fee and get a specific amount of time per ride or day and he was waiting for his account to be reset to keep going after his time was up with his account/plan. He wasn't stealing it to his defense. He was hanging out with friends, his time was up, he docked it and planned to rent it again - it sounds like you have to wait a certain amount of time to reuse it for free/low cost. He clearly paid and had an account.

Sounds like you can rent it again if it's available. There was no hold or reserve on it. It was available so she rented it. Does Citibike intend for bikes to sit there unused so people can "wait for their time to be up" if that's what they wanted why would they limit the time at all?

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

You won't answer the question: Why is this all on her? Why couldn't the guy have gotten a different bike?

Well she is the adult here, these are a group of young teens. Given their lack of maturity and that brains don't fully form into adulthood until you are at least 25. I think more responsibility lies on her from the perspective of a former teacher.

If you are over 18 you are an adult. If they were under 18 and had free range of the city, they are clearly old enough to be responsible and take responsibility for their actions.

The bike was sitting docked. He was not paying for the bike. Therefore it was available for anyone to rent. If it was his bike, he would have been paying for it, which he wasn't.

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

I don't think he was trying to get out of paying as if he was stealing the bike, he wouldn't have redocked it. It looks like you can pay a monthly fee and get a specific amount of time per ride or day and he was waiting for his account to be reset to keep going after his time was up with his account/plan. He wasn't stealing it to his defense. He was hanging out with friends, his time was up, he docked it and planned to rent it again - it sounds like you have to wait a certain amount of time to reuse it for free/low cost. He clearly paid and had an account.

Sounds like you can rent it again if it's available. There was no hold or reserve on it. It was available so she rented it. Does Citibike intend for bikes to sit there unused so people can "wait for their time to be up" if that's what they wanted why would they limit the time at all?

They make you do a check-in every 45 minutes or so. But, what's not clear is if there is a wait time between checking out the bike again or not. Either way, when she paid for it, no one had the bike rented.

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

You won't answer the question: Why is this all on her? Why couldn't the guy have gotten a different bike?

Well she is the adult here, these are a group of young teens. Given their lack of maturity and that brains don't fully form into adulthood until you are at least 25. I think more responsibility lies on her from the perspective of a former teacher.

Does trolling pay better than teaching

+1. It staggers belief the lame excuses that poster keeps finding to exonerate the guys and put all the blame on the PA. Do you have to be 35 to realize there's another bike two docks away and you could use that instead?

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

You won't answer the question: Why is this all on her? Why couldn't the guy have gotten a different bike?

Well she is the adult here, these are a group of young teens. Given their lack of maturity and that brains don't fully form into adulthood until you are at least 25. I think more responsibility lies on her from the perspective of a former teacher.

Does trolling pay better than teaching

+1. It staggers belief the lame excuses that poster keeps finding to exonerate the guys and put all the blame on the PA. Do you have to be 35 to realize there's another bike two docks away and you could use that instead?

What is unclear is if other bikes were available or did someone get off their bike and dock it for her to rent it. Either way, she didn't call the police or security. She rented another bike per others advice, went home and thought that was the end of it. Instead one of the boys (or maybe even this sister) posted the video online which started the drama.

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

I don't think he was trying to get out of paying as if he was stealing the bike, he wouldn't have redocked it. It looks like you can pay a monthly fee and get a specific amount of time per ride or day and he was waiting for his account to be reset to keep going after his time was up with his account/plan. He wasn't stealing it to his defense. He was hanging out with friends, his time was up, he docked it and planned to rent it again - it sounds like you have to wait a certain amount of time to reuse it for free/low cost. He clearly paid and had an account.

Sounds like you can rent it again if it's available. There was no hold or reserve on it. It was available so she rented it. Does Citibike intend for bikes to sit there unused so people can "wait for their time to be up" if that's what they wanted why would they limit the time at all?

They make you do a check-in every 45 minutes or so. But, what's not clear is if there is a wait time between checking out the bike again or not. Either way, when she paid for it, no one had the bike rented.

What's also not clear is whether they could all have redocked their bikes and then immediately rented out their friends' bikes. After all, even if you just have 25 mins on your bike, why not take this opportunity to reset to 45 mins again, especially if this means your friend who already has 45 mins gets one of the newly reset bikes.

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

I don't think he was trying to get out of paying as if he was stealing the bike, he wouldn't have redocked it. It looks like you can pay a monthly fee and get a specific amount of time per ride or day and he was waiting for his account to be reset to keep going after his time was up with his account/plan. He wasn't stealing it to his defense. He was hanging out with friends, his time was up, he docked it and planned to rent it again - it sounds like you have to wait a certain amount of time to reuse it for free/low cost. He clearly paid and had an account.

Sounds like you can rent it again if it's available. There was no hold or reserve on it. It was available so she rented it. Does Citibike intend for bikes to sit there unused so people can "wait for their time to be up" if that's what they wanted why would they limit the time at all?

They make you do a check-in every 45 minutes or so. But, what's not clear is if there is a wait time between checking out the bike again or not. Either way, when she paid for it, no one had the bike rented.

What's also not clear is whether they could all have redocked their bikes and then immediately rented out their friends' bikes. After all, even if you just have 25 mins on your bike, why not take this opportunity to reset to 45 mins again, especially if this means your friend who already has 45 mins gets one of the newly reset bikes.

Exactly, switching the bikes around would have made the most sense.

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

Omg she was not screaming bloody murder. Not even close. She yelled for help. A pretty lame yell at that. She was probably exhausted from her shift and just wanted out of the situation.

And yet for all the yelling she did, the dry tears and such, she immediately went along her merry way when a passerby merely suggested that she try for a different bike. She blanked for a minute, because you could tell that it never occurred to her to just check out the bike right next to the one she was carrying on about. This could have ended much earlier, if they had conveyed that they were waiting for the system to reset and if she had checked out the bike right next to their bike.

What on earth was she supposed to do? No one would care if she reported it to the police as it's been reported and the police have done nothing. So, her only option was to get off the bike, get a new one and go home. She was pregnant off a 12 hours shift. One can assume she was pretty tired.

Why didn't the men just change around bikes or take a free bike? None of that makes sense.

I mean she could have just pulled out her phone and called the citibike people off to the side and they would have locked the bike. She could have explained there was a dispute between the bikes and she was not sure who was the rightful owner. Instead she had a complete meltdown. I don't believe she was in fear because people in fear don't attempt to snatch a man's phone from his hand and touch him.

You won't answer the question: Why is this all on her? Why couldn't the guy have gotten a different bike?

Well she is the adult here, these are a group of young teens. Given their lack of maturity and that brains don't fully form into adulthood until you are at least 25. I think more responsibility lies on her from the perspective of a former teacher.

Does trolling pay better than teaching

+1. It staggers belief the lame excuses that poster keeps finding to exonerate the guys and put all the blame on the PA. Do you have to be 35 to realize there's another bike two docks away and you could use that instead?

Bottomline is both of them could have handled it a lot better. But, the young man did not have possession of the bike a it was docked and he was not currently renting it. He clearly wasn't stealing it.

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In the Citi Bike rules I read you have to wait 2 minutes. The bike is up for grabs in the down time. Otherwise don't be a cheap skate and just pay for the bike if you want it so bad.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Citi Bike rules I read you have to wait 2 minutes. The bike is up for grabs in the down time. Otherwise don't be a cheap skate and just pay for the bike if you want it so bad.

And, it had been I forget but 5-7 minutes or so. I don't think it was so much about being cheap, but they were probably taking a break as they had a long ride and you only get a limited time.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Citi Bike rules I read you have to wait 2 minutes. The bike is up for grabs in the down time. Otherwise don't be a cheap skate and just pay for the bike if you want it so bad.

In fact I'm sure that's why there's an upcharge for time over 45 min in the first place. To discourage multi-hour monopolization of bikes.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Citi Bike rules I read you have to wait 2 minutes. The bike is up for grabs in the down time. Otherwise don't be a cheap skate and just pay for the bike if you want it so bad.

That's racist against unemployed people.

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Anonymous wrote:In the Citi Bike rules I read you have to wait 2 minutes. The bike is up for grabs in the down time. Otherwise don't be a cheap skate and just pay for the bike if you want it so bad.

And, it had been I forget but 5-7 minutes or so. I don't think it was so much about being cheap, but they were probably taking a break as they had a long ride and you only get a limited time.

You get more time, for a fee. So yes, it was about saving money.

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Anonymous wrote:The larger issue here is that she yelled and screamed bloody murder over a bike, which could have ended up causing a much more dangerous situation for the young men. This is why people are upset!!! Even if the teens had the bike, and then redocked it in order to reset the system. While she might have assumed it was free, the way she carried on over a bike is absurd.

In the video we see her attempting to snatch his phone, yell her head off and then carry on about him touching her stomach, even though he narrates to her to stop touching him, she continues to touch him and then make it about her unborn baby.

This is why people are outraged.

She didn't yell and scream and stop making it about those men as the victim when they aren't. She grabbed his phone to see the receipt. If they are such fine men, why not stand up and say your side. The sisters side makes sense.

There is a double standard in your analysis. No woman should assault a man by grabbing at his phone to get her way. If this had been reversed, a man doing this to a group of women, there would be outcry. She should keep her hands to herself.

She was wrong to grab the phone but she was also probably trying to get her to let her go and he's basically restraining her. If he wanted that bike, his rear end should have been on it holding it. She was probably trying to look at the receipt.

How was he restraining her? He restrained the bike but not her person.

He reached across her pregnant belly to scan his QR code. He touched her then.

That doesn't really meet anyone's definition of restraining. Are you the same crazy person who said that she was kidnapped?

The things you are saying don't really exist in reality.

You're arguing in bad faith. Several pp's have explained to you that the guy held onto the bike with her on it, after pushing it back into the dock with her on it. That's bodily restraint.

Then, pp with the kidnapping was making an analogy. Presumably you know what an analogy is, but here you are pretending that was an actual claim.

Also, all your ad hominems are just childish.

If you want to persuade anybody about your position, you need to start arguing in good faith.

Your position borders on insanity, so it's not like you have any room to talk. You obviously know nothing about criminal law and the realities of our criminal justice system. Nobody is going to be charged for holding onto a bike. It's just not that serious.

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So. Why were there multiple guys arguing over 1 bike with the PA? Had the other guys already rented bikes, or did they bring their own bikes?

This is an important question. Why did multiple men surround a lone, pregnant woman and proceed to terrorize her over the bike? Someone is filming the exchange and it ends up on social media.

Uh, huh.