Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason that Blake and Justin have credibility issues is that they very publicly lied about their relationship not starting while he was still married on the set of Green Lantern. I can understand not wanting to publicize that, but affirmatively lying about it is a choice.


Who thinks they have credibility issues? Sounds like a personal opinion.


I’m more leaning on Blakes side in this case, but come on, the reason there was so much organic bad press about her is that for a few years now this couple has been overexposed and absolutely there is starting to be public backlash. Listen to any pop culture podcast - tons of them going through blind items on them, the daily NYC pap walks, the whole Preserve era, their fake dating origin story about how they were on a double date with other people.

Just before this whole thing broke in December 20, Ryan was getting heat for coming out in an interview and saying that he and Blake were working class growing up. He actually probably was but Blake clearly wasn’t. She came from a Hollywood family.

Which really has nothing to do with the legal elements of this case, but a lot to do with the public perception.


The vast majority of people are just finding out about a lot of this. They don't follow Blake or Ryan and Baldoni had almost zero name recognition. The credibility piece has nothing to do with anything and is just an opinion of vocal fans.


Hmmm. I think the whole reason she’s doing the suit is to get back credibility. They need to be a beloved Hollywood couple or a lot of their revenue streams dry up.


I actually agree with both this post and the one immediately above. I'm in the category of people who don't follow Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. Like I'm not even sure I knew they were married. If I read about it when it happened, I'd forgotten, and definitely did not know or care that they may have been adulterous when they met. I only knew of her from Gossip Girl and Baldoni from Jane the Virgin.

What got her on my radar was that big story about the baby bump interview. I saw lots of discussion about it and it was so weird to me because it didn't seem like that big of a deal especially since it wasn't even recent or in connection with her latest film. It seemed totally random. So for me, when I read about her lawsuit and the retaliation/smear campaign, that rang true and puts me on her side (and I'm not otherwise a follower or a fan). I think that she perceived last summer's bad press as a major hit to her credibility and her lawsuit is absolutely about gaining credibility and frankly, I think she's doing a good of it. Her PR campaign is a hell of a lot more professional than his.


Blake has the added advantage of her billionaire husband throwing his weight around. I disagree that it is going well, the fact that swipes were taken at her at Golden Globes and the fact they didn’t attend despite Ryan being nominated suggest it isn’t going well.


Weird that so many have a different perception. Blake and Ryan will be fine. There are much bigger stories going on right now. People will move on and lose interest in this very soon.


Yeah, with the wildfires burning in Los Angeles and so many people losing everything, there will probably be a period where celebrities won't be doing a lot of publicity about their personal problems. It's on Daily Mail that Leighton Meester and Adam Brody's house in the Palisades burned to the ground. So there is some connection to the disaster for the GG cast
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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason that Blake and Justin have credibility issues is that they very publicly lied about their relationship not starting while he was still married on the set of Green Lantern. I can understand not wanting to publicize that, but affirmatively lying about it is a choice.


Who thinks they have credibility issues? Sounds like a personal opinion.


I’m more leaning on Blakes side in this case, but come on, the reason there was so much organic bad press about her is that for a few years now this couple has been overexposed and absolutely there is starting to be public backlash. Listen to any pop culture podcast - tons of them going through blind items on them, the daily NYC pap walks, the whole Preserve era, their fake dating origin story about how they were on a double date with other people.

Just before this whole thing broke in December 20, Ryan was getting heat for coming out in an interview and saying that he and Blake were working class growing up. He actually probably was but Blake clearly wasn’t. She came from a Hollywood family.

Which really has nothing to do with the legal elements of this case, but a lot to do with the public perception.


The vast majority of people are just finding out about a lot of this. They don't follow Blake or Ryan and Baldoni had almost zero name recognition. The credibility piece has nothing to do with anything and is just an opinion of vocal fans.


Hmmm. I think the whole reason she’s doing the suit is to get back credibility. They need to be a beloved Hollywood couple or a lot of their revenue streams dry up.


I actually agree with both this post and the one immediately above. I'm in the category of people who don't follow Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. Like I'm not even sure I knew they were married. If I read about it when it happened, I'd forgotten, and definitely did not know or care that they may have been adulterous when they met. I only knew of her from Gossip Girl and Baldoni from Jane the Virgin.

What got her on my radar was that big story about the baby bump interview. I saw lots of discussion about it and it was so weird to me because it didn't seem like that big of a deal especially since it wasn't even recent or in connection with her latest film. It seemed totally random. So for me, when I read about her lawsuit and the retaliation/smear campaign, that rang true and puts me on her side (and I'm not otherwise a follower or a fan). I think that she perceived last summer's bad press as a major hit to her credibility and her lawsuit is absolutely about gaining credibility and frankly, I think she's doing a good of it. Her PR campaign is a hell of a lot more professional than his.


Blake has the added advantage of her billionaire husband throwing his weight around. I disagree that it is going well, the fact that swipes were taken at her at Golden Globes and the fact they didn’t attend despite Ryan being nominated suggest it isn’t going well.


Weird that so many have a different perception. Blake and Ryan will be fine. There are much bigger stories going on right now. People will move on and lose interest in this very soon.


Yeah, with the wildfires burning in Los Angeles and so many people losing everything, there will probably be a period where celebrities won't be doing a lot of publicity about their personal problems. It's on Daily Mail that Leighton Meester and Adam Brody's house in the Palisades burned to the ground. So there is some connection to the disaster for the GG cast


They did not get along at all.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one reason that Blake and Justin have credibility issues is that they very publicly lied about their relationship not starting while he was still married on the set of Green Lantern. I can understand not wanting to publicize that, but affirmatively lying about it is a choice.


Who thinks they have credibility issues? Sounds like a personal opinion.


I’m more leaning on Blakes side in this case, but come on, the reason there was so much organic bad press about her is that for a few years now this couple has been overexposed and absolutely there is starting to be public backlash. Listen to any pop culture podcast - tons of them going through blind items on them, the daily NYC pap walks, the whole Preserve era, their fake dating origin story about how they were on a double date with other people.

Just before this whole thing broke in December 20, Ryan was getting heat for coming out in an interview and saying that he and Blake were working class growing up. He actually probably was but Blake clearly wasn’t. She came from a Hollywood family.

Which really has nothing to do with the legal elements of this case, but a lot to do with the public perception.


The vast majority of people are just finding out about a lot of this. They don't follow Blake or Ryan and Baldoni had almost zero name recognition. The credibility piece has nothing to do with anything and is just an opinion of vocal fans.


Hmmm. I think the whole reason she’s doing the suit is to get back credibility. They need to be a beloved Hollywood couple or a lot of their revenue streams dry up.


I actually agree with both this post and the one immediately above. I'm in the category of people who don't follow Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. Like I'm not even sure I knew they were married. If I read about it when it happened, I'd forgotten, and definitely did not know or care that they may have been adulterous when they met. I only knew of her from Gossip Girl and Baldoni from Jane the Virgin.

What got her on my radar was that big story about the baby bump interview. I saw lots of discussion about it and it was so weird to me because it didn't seem like that big of a deal especially since it wasn't even recent or in connection with her latest film. It seemed totally random. So for me, when I read about her lawsuit and the retaliation/smear campaign, that rang true and puts me on her side (and I'm not otherwise a follower or a fan). I think that she perceived last summer's bad press as a major hit to her credibility and her lawsuit is absolutely about gaining credibility and frankly, I think she's doing a good of it. Her PR campaign is a hell of a lot more professional than his.


Blake has the added advantage of her billionaire husband throwing his weight around. I disagree that it is going well, the fact that swipes were taken at her at Golden Globes and the fact they didn’t attend despite Ryan being nominated suggest it isn’t going well.


Weird that so many have a different perception. Blake and Ryan will be fine. There are much bigger stories going on right now. People will move on and lose interest in this very soon.


Yeah, with the wildfires burning in Los Angeles and so many people losing everything, there will probably be a period where celebrities won't be doing a lot of publicity about their personal problems. It's on Daily Mail that Leighton Meester and Adam Brody's house in the Palisades burned to the ground. So there is some connection to the disaster for the GG cast


They did not get along at all.


The point is that people may be loathe to do interviews about Hollywood problem when stuff is literally burning to the ground. But hey, maybe Blake will go out and do a promo for her shampoo
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The thing I find so surprising about what happened over 2024 is the way Baldoni was totally iced out of the promotion and premiere. Anyone following the timeline knows this was before he hired the PR agency to do whatever they did, and well before Lively found out about it.

Throughout the summer, the entire cast refused to appear with him, not letting him walk the carpet with them - unheard of. Can anyone think of any example of something like that? And that is through hundreds of movies/TV shows where we have found out during or after the fact that costars or directors/actors hated each other, screamed at each other, even came to blows.

Think about Grey's Anatomy where Isaiah Washington used anti-gay slurs and had a physical altercation with Patrick Dempsey - still Dempsey and other cast members didn't ice him out like that. Or Charlize Theron/Tom Hardy. So many examples.
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First Mangione, then this, people will move on to the fire devastation now.
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Anonymous wrote:The thing I find so surprising about what happened over 2024 is the way Baldoni was totally iced out of the promotion and premiere. Anyone following the timeline knows this was before he hired the PR agency to do whatever they did, and well before Lively found out about it.

Throughout the summer, the entire cast refused to appear with him, not letting him walk the carpet with them - unheard of. Can anyone think of any example of something like that? And that is through hundreds of movies/TV shows where we have found out during or after the fact that costars or directors/actors hated each other, screamed at each other, even came to blows.

Think about Grey's Anatomy where Isaiah Washington used anti-gay slurs and had a physical altercation with Patrick Dempsey - still Dempsey and other cast members didn't ice him out like that. Or Charlize Theron/Tom Hardy. So many examples.


Show how much power she and her husband have. They also know she is best friends with Taylor Swift.
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Anonymous wrote:The thing I find so surprising about what happened over 2024 is the way Baldoni was totally iced out of the promotion and premiere. Anyone following the timeline knows this was before he hired the PR agency to do whatever they did, and well before Lively found out about it.

Throughout the summer, the entire cast refused to appear with him, not letting him walk the carpet with them - unheard of. Can anyone think of any example of something like that? And that is through hundreds of movies/TV shows where we have found out during or after the fact that costars or directors/actors hated each other, screamed at each other, even came to blows.

Think about Grey's Anatomy where Isaiah Washington used anti-gay slurs and had a physical altercation with Patrick Dempsey - still Dempsey and other cast members didn't ice him out like that. Or Charlize Theron/Tom Hardy. So many examples.


I agree that was kind of amazing. I remember being shocked and hat the director who was also one of the stats wasn't at the premier.

I do think it's different than those other situations. Gray's Anatomy was actually a huge deal and Washington either got fired or quit. It wasn't a small thing. It was an ongoing show so there was no premier to exclude him though. I do recall him being pretty iced out by the cast and producers though, except maybe Katherine Heigl? And she had her own conflicts. But it was all lower profile because it was TV not a film and the biggest star was Dempsey who still isn't that big of a deal.

I had totally forgotten about Charlize Theron and Tom Hardy but that was just them hating each other. There was no allegations of harassment. It was stuff like Hardy being really slow to show up for shoots and Theron being mad about having to wait in the desert heat. But that kind of thing happens all the time. Costars often don't get along and there are power struggles on set.
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I think we are going to find Ryan’s fingerprints all over this, which is why Justin’s attorney keeps talking about releasing all the information emails/texts.
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I honestly don’t believe there was harassment but likely unprofessionalism. I And they just didn’t like each other. He’s was suppose to be the scapegoat but started fighting back.
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t believe there was harassment but likely unprofessionalism. I And they just didn’t like each other. He’s was suppose to be the scapegoat but started fighting back.


I think based on the allegations that it was very unprofessional but veered into harassment because of the personalities involved and Baldoni was directing. It sounds like Baldoni has these attitudes about sex that he thinks if as "sex positive" and he has this idea that the production would reflect that approach. But like other people I've met who think of themselves as very sexually open and evolved, he doesn't understand that most people have stricter boundaries around sex. He thought it was normal and acceptable to talk about porn addiction, ask his cast mates about their sexual history, talk about his wife's birth experience, look at video of a naked woman giving birth, etc. And he didn't get that not everyone wants to do that.

When you add in that he was director/producer, it be ones harassment. I think he honestly didn't understand thus stuff is harassing because I don't think he understands that consent doesn't just mean "don't rape people." It also means that people get to decide how much they talk about sex, where and with whom they talk about it, can choose to decline conversations about sex, etc. He also didn't seem to understand that it was not appropriate to be coercive about getting an actor to do nudity that hasn't been previously discussed and contractually agreed to. Like he just thought "I'm such a sex positive, open-minded guy, of course this is fine."

Had Baldoni just been a costar and not in a position if authority, I don't think there would have been an issue. The problem was him not understanding that being "sex positive" cannot be forced on people, and then him being the boss so when he did force it in people, it carried more weight and was more problematic.
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what are you talking about? He was bringing a book to life. Have you read the book? He is a director and creative and he had an intimacy coordinator. This is acting and not for everyone. You don’t get to be in a movie with all sorts of sex and also very uncomfortable themes and then call harassment after when you know what the movie is.
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I am glad he is fighting back. Gosh she really wants to ruin him. I think she didn’t realize that people are tired of watching people get cancelled.
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t believe there was harassment but likely unprofessionalism. I And they just didn’t like each other. He’s was suppose to be the scapegoat but started fighting back.


Oh no! A good husband protecting his wife from an unprofessional sexual harasser. I'm sure we'll all be stunned and shocked at the texts that come out. If that suit we keep hearing about ever happens.
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Anonymous wrote:I am glad he is fighting back. Gosh she really wants to ruin him. I think she didn’t realize that people are tired of watching people get cancelled.


You can't cancel a nobody. But he will never be a Hollywood somebody now.
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Anonymous wrote:I am glad he is fighting back. Gosh she really wants to ruin him. I think she didn’t realize that people are tired of watching people get cancelled.


You can't cancel a nobody. But he will never be a Hollywood somebody now.[/quote



Wow! This is harsh. Everybody is somebody.
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