Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

Right. It seems to me they are living their lives. I don’t see anything sinister or cynical. It is fun. And yes money is being made all around. Cool.

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Anonymous wrote:NFL has been rigged for decades. Patriots won the Super Bowl in the run up to Iraq war. New Orleans won it after Katrina.

I really do believe that the NFL is now about 90% fake. It's just one step above WWE or whatever that is called these days. The NFL powers that be can control the refs who then control the outcome of most games. It's not 100% controlled and fake like wrestling, but give it a few years.

I think the NFL wanted the Chiefs in the Super Bowl for the extra $$ Taylor Swift would bring in. I also think they wanted the Lions in the Super Bowl but the NFL can't account for everything, like idiot coaches going for it on 4th down instead of kicking to tie the game.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

Right. It seems to me they are living their lives. I don’t see anything sinister or cynical. It is fun. And yes money is being made all around. Cool.

That's a value judgment on your part and not everyone agrees. To me, the fact that money is being made "all around" (including very much by Kelce and his family who are absolutely capitalizing on this relationship to make more money via endorsements and building Kelce's entertainment career) is de facto cynical, even if the relationship is based on genuine attraction between these two people.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

So what if he was.

MYOB this whole debate is absurd.

MAGA/ Republcians are showing how ignorant they are.

Their fat orange King is embarrished because a woman is a better business person than he ever was.

Taylor has never gone bankrupt once Donnie 6 times.

Taylor pays the people who work for her.

Trump never does.

Trump wants to be KING Republicans are the most hypocritical ignorant shits. Do you think you will have freedom to spew on social media republicans when your Dictator takes over? IDIOTS

What are you even talking about? What does Taylor swift have to do with trump? Are you high? I’m the furthest thing from a trump supporter.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

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Also, I do want to point out that while Swifts are batshit crazy, the craziest people in this thread are the anti-fans. Really? He's gay and she's a beard because he's an unmarried 34 year old man with no kids is gay? Really? I mean, do what you want, but do you hear yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

Travis Kelce has been dressing "over the top" his whole professional life.

Article before the 2020 Super Bowl https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/super-bowl-2020-look-out-for-chiefs-star-travis-kelces-game-day-outfit/

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

Exactly. And Travis has been in reality shows before and even acted some - and was good. These are not low key people. They seem to be consistent so not really understanding why it is so much of a problem. Plus they are nice and joyful. Could do a lot worse when it comes to celebs.

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All the MAGA that found this thread in the last couple days going full MAGA and then stupidly insisting “I’m not MAGA” and “what does this have to with trump?” Liars.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

DP. He always dresses flamboyantly (though of course nobody cared before he got with Taylor), but the convertible thing was 1000% staged for maximum photo ops and attention. This woman travels in armored vehicles for her safety. Zero chance she hopped into a top-down convertible, tee-hee on a whim, without multiple people planning ahead and securing the entire route, etc. It's fine that they both want attention - she is after all an entertainer and he is aspiring to be - but they should own it - get that money! No snark. But the "golly gee, just going about our business and paps happened to catch it" is being insincere and deliberately obtuse.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

Travis Kelce has been dressing "over the top" his whole professional life.

Article before the 2020 Super Bowl https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/super-bowl-2020-look-out-for-chiefs-star-travis-kelces-game-day-outfit/

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

DP. He always dresses flamboyantly (though of course nobody cared before he got with Taylor), but the convertible thing was 1000% staged for maximum photo ops and attention. This woman travels in armored vehicles for her safety. Zero chance she hopped into a top-down convertible, tee-hee on a whim, without multiple people planning ahead and securing the entire route, etc. It's fine that they both want attention - she is after all an entertainer and he is aspiring to be - but they should own it - get that money! No snark. But the "golly gee, just going about our business and paps happened to catch it" is being insincere and deliberately obtuse.

Ha! I think they own it. And you are using the going about our business in the wrong context deliberately as well. Of course that was all about her “Getaway Car” and was for for photogs.

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You can ask Jeff. I’m 10000% not maga. I just think Taylor and Travis have a PR relationship. It wouldn’t be the first. Do you also think Tom cruise and Katie Holmes were truly madly deeply in love?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

I don't want to argue this into the ground, but there is such a difference between what they do and being "force to hole up indoors all the time."

Like what is the attention difference, for them, between getting in a convertible and driving around with the top down, and getting in your standard rich person SUV? It's actually pretty large. If they'd just driven a normal rich person car on that night instead of a freaking 1950s fever dream, no one would have seen them or cared what they were doing. Choosing the super bespoke, showy option (the sort of thing that the director of a music video would choose for the "date scene" specifically because it's nostalgic and evocative and especially camera ready) every single time is what has made the attention paid to their relationship so over the top intense to the degree we are now at.

There is a version of Taylor & Travis in which they don't hide, everyone knows they are dating, there is definitely interest but people are not totally obsessed. It would involve them not choosing the showiest option every single time. That is not the route the have taken. They want people following they relationship breathlessly, and have made choices throughout to ensure that's the case.