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01/31/2024 14:38

Subject: Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Great! Thank you for sharing your opinion. I disagree. I think it's probably a real relationship but also that they were probably introduced/set up via public relations people, and I also think there are ongoing conversations about how to monetize the relationship and use it to benefit their careers, especially Kelce's. I think the claim that they "don't want the attention" is blatantly false, but that they say it because they don't like the *negative* attention, but want and expressly encourage the positive attention because it benefits them financially. I absolutely think they are "asking for" all the attention and commentary and that it's actually kind of baked into the relationship, but they want the upside (more fame, more money, more professional opportunities, plus just feeling loved by more people) and not the downside (criticism, judgment, people making fun of them, plus some of the genuinely scary stuff like stalkers/obsessives). I get why they want that? It does not change my opinion on the nature of their relationship.

I also tend to think it will crash and burn because I think it is premised to some degree on a certain level of attention and synergy with their careers, and that if/when it no longer serves those purposes, they will lose interest in each other. I sense, based on their dating histories, that they both like the exciting, early part of relationships but have a demonstrated distaste for the boring, middle part. I also just do not see two total workaholics at the top of their careers "settling down" to play house and have kids together (which I think is a-ok and if anyone can demonstrate how to live meaningful, wonderful lives without marriage/kids, it's these two), so I don't see them transitioning their relationship to the "happily ever after" that it's pretty clear a lot of fans are hoping for.

See, we can both share our opinions, without saying misogynist things about Taylor or calling Kelce stupid. That's the point of this thread.

You misread me.

Also who wants false stuff out there?

Lol, I think you are the one misreading.

Travis said they don't want the attention to stop them living their lives. This implies that the attention is not something they courted. But it is. Actually, this is a very interesting phrasing from him that I think is either sort of obtuse (to be generous) or very cynical (to be less generous).

I think Taylor and Travis have been famous for so long, and have personalities, that make it hard for them to recognize that a lot of their behavior courts attention in a very obvious, overt way, and that when it results in attention, that's on them and not on some evil press or overzealous fans.

Taylor showing up to a Chiefs game in thigh high boots with Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Hugh Jackman, and Sophie Turner courts attention. But Taylor might say "whatever, those are my friends, they were interested in going to this football game, am I supposed to NOT bring my friends to my boyfriends football game?" But that would be either playing dumb or being dumb, because her friends are extremely high profile celebrities. She knows the stir it will cause to show up to the game with them. If she wants to go to the game without attracting a TON of attention, she could just bring one friend, dress differently, bring a lower profile friend, etc. All of those things are within her options. It just so happens, coincidentally, that the thing Taylor most wants that would bring her the most joy, is also the thing that would attract the maximum amount of attention from the media and everyone else.

And this is the crux of it. These people are performers, they attract people's attention for a living. They extend those habits to all aspects of their lives, including their private lives. But it is still a *choice.*

So Travis's comment is interesting because it implies that they don't like the attention, but everything these people have done in their lives, down to their choice of career and significant other and how they are carrying on that relationship, indicates that they LOVE attention. And that's why some of us are rolling our eyes at this because it seems obvious to us that the fact that it's garnering all this attention is at least part of the reason these two people are together in the first place, and that strikes us as a little bit gross.