Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

DP. He always dresses flamboyantly (though of course nobody cared before he got with Taylor), but the convertible thing was 1000% staged for maximum photo ops and attention. This woman travels in armored vehicles for her safety. Zero chance she hopped into a top-down convertible, tee-hee on a whim, without multiple people planning ahead and securing the entire route, etc. It's fine that they both want attention - she is after all an entertainer and he is aspiring to be - but they should own it - get that money! No snark. But the "golly gee, just going about our business and paps happened to catch it" is being insincere and deliberately obtuse.

Thank you. You explain it better than me. I’ve heard that Taylor sneaks into her own concerts in disguise or under a blanket or something weird like that so to not be seen. And her security detail is massive. I live in Baltimore and her security had the freight elevator shut down for like an hour so she and her entourage could privately come up to the box. This is not someone who was like “wheeee a convertible ride!” and hopped in. She is heavily guarded and at times she is not, it’s planned well in advance.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

I don't want to argue this into the ground, but there is such a difference between what they do and being "force to hole up indoors all the time."

Like what is the attention difference, for them, between getting in a convertible and driving around with the top down, and getting in your standard rich person SUV? It's actually pretty large. If they'd just driven a normal rich person car on that night instead of a freaking 1950s fever dream, no one would have seen them or cared what they were doing. Choosing the super bespoke, showy option (the sort of thing that the director of a music video would choose for the "date scene" specifically because it's nostalgic and evocative and especially camera ready) every single time is what has made the attention paid to their relationship so over the top intense to the degree we are now at.

There is a version of Taylor & Travis in which they don't hide, everyone knows they are dating, there is definitely interest but people are not totally obsessed. It would involve them not choosing the showiest option every single time. That is not the route the have taken. They want people following they relationship breathlessly, and have made choices throughout to ensure that's the case.

Every single time? How do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:All the MAGA that found this thread in the last couple days going full MAGA and then stupidly insisting “I’m not MAGA” and “what does this have to with trump?” Liars.

You can ask Jeff. I’m 10000% not maga. I just think Taylor and Travis have a PR relationship. It wouldn’t be the first. Do you also think Tom cruise and Katie Holmes were truly madly deeply in love?

Same on all points. I've been posting in this thread for months, I am progressive and hope Trump gets jail time or loses all his money lawsuits (preferably both) so that it destroys any chance of him becoming president again, and I also think Taylor and Travis were set up by their PR teams, will likely break up with in the next 6 months, and have a bunch of brand deals tied to their relationship that are making it mutually beneficial.

It's not a MAGA position, it's a "I've seen this one before" position.

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She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

You’re agreeing with me that it was staged.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

You’re agreeing with me that it was staged.

Of course. But I don’t see why that is some gotcha you think it is.

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Anonymous wrote:All the MAGA that found this thread in the last couple days going full MAGA and then stupidly insisting “I’m not MAGA” and “what does this have to with trump?” Liars.

You can ask Jeff. I’m 10000% not maga. I just think Taylor and Travis have a PR relationship. It wouldn’t be the first. Do you also think Tom cruise and Katie Holmes were truly madly deeply in love?

Same on all points. I've been posting in this thread for months, I am progressive and hope Trump gets jail time or loses all his money lawsuits (preferably both) so that it destroys any chance of him becoming president again, and I also think Taylor and Travis were set up by their PR teams, will likely break up with in the next 6 months, and have a bunch of brand deals tied to their relationship that are making it mutually beneficial.

It's not a MAGA position, it's a "I've seen this one before" position.

No one is saying THAT is a MAGA position, and it's disingenuous of you to pretend others are conflating the two. MAGAs are saying that liberals think anyone who claims the relationship is PR are MAGA, because it's part of their "Hurdur libs sensitive" shtick.

What is a MAGA position is insisting that Taylor Swift is too old to be acting like this (acting like what? Going to her bf's JOB? Also get a grip, she's 34), that glorifying Taylor Swift's "childish" behavior is why the birth rates are down, that any man who doesn't have kids by Travis's age is gay (wtf?), this is being done to influence the election, etc. And of course, MAGAs - again, not you, PP, your stance is totally reasonable - would be totally fine with all of this if Taylor had just kept her mouth shut and been a good celebrity who didn't speak about politics.

This relationship may very well be PR, I don't know and I don't care, but having a meltdown because a 34 year old woman who happens to be childless had a couple cocktails at her boyfriend's football game is, well, snowflake behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

I don't want to argue this into the ground, but there is such a difference between what they do and being "force to hole up indoors all the time."

Like what is the attention difference, for them, between getting in a convertible and driving around with the top down, and getting in your standard rich person SUV? It's actually pretty large. If they'd just driven a normal rich person car on that night instead of a freaking 1950s fever dream, no one would have seen them or cared what they were doing. Choosing the super bespoke, showy option (the sort of thing that the director of a music video would choose for the "date scene" specifically because it's nostalgic and evocative and especially camera ready) every single time is what has made the attention paid to their relationship so over the top intense to the degree we are now at.

There is a version of Taylor & Travis in which they don't hide, everyone knows they are dating, there is definitely interest but people are not totally obsessed. It would involve them not choosing the showiest option every single time. That is not the route the have taken. They want people following they relationship breathlessly, and have made choices throughout to ensure that's the case.

Every single time? How do you know?

It was hyperbole, but I can think of a bunch of examples where they chose the attention-getting option that would result in extra photos/press coverage/fan obsession as opposed to the typical celeb option.

The vintage convertible over a black SUV.
Taylor wearing costumey cheerleader outfits to games that really stand out compared to how every other person, including other celebrities, are dressed.
Taylor bringing a rotating cast of high profile celebs to games with her, instead of, like, her mom or a non-celeb friend.
Travis and Taylor's dad arranging for her to greet him off stage at her show in full view of hundreds of fans (and their phone cameras) so that a very private moment played out in public even though there were lots of ways to ensure that happened in actual private.
Etc.

All that stuff has really driven interest and gotten people very worked up, and if they'd jus made lower key choices there, it would not impact the course of their relationship at all, but it would make it a lot less camera-friendly and attract far less media attention. Which has led many of us to wonder if maybe the media attention is the whole point.

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And another thing. It may well be PR. Like you said, "we've seen this before."

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So why the f does it matter? They aren't the first celebrities in a PR relationship and they won't be the last. If you're so nonchalant about "I've seen it before"...why do you care? Were you this worked up about the last celebrities you saw do this?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

I don't want to argue this into the ground, but there is such a difference between what they do and being "force to hole up indoors all the time."

Like what is the attention difference, for them, between getting in a convertible and driving around with the top down, and getting in your standard rich person SUV? It's actually pretty large. If they'd just driven a normal rich person car on that night instead of a freaking 1950s fever dream, no one would have seen them or cared what they were doing. Choosing the super bespoke, showy option (the sort of thing that the director of a music video would choose for the "date scene" specifically because it's nostalgic and evocative and especially camera ready) every single time is what has made the attention paid to their relationship so over the top intense to the degree we are now at.

There is a version of Taylor & Travis in which they don't hide, everyone knows they are dating, there is definitely interest but people are not totally obsessed. It would involve them not choosing the showiest option every single time. That is not the route the have taken. They want people following they relationship breathlessly, and have made choices throughout to ensure that's the case.

Every single time? How do you know?

It was hyperbole, but I can think of a bunch of examples where they chose the attention-getting option that would result in extra photos/press coverage/fan obsession as opposed to the typical celeb option.

The vintage convertible over a black SUV.
Taylor wearing costumey cheerleader outfits to games that really stand out compared to how every other person, including other celebrities, are dressed.
Taylor bringing a rotating cast of high profile celebs to games with her, instead of, like, her mom or a non-celeb friend.
Travis and Taylor's dad arranging for her to greet him off stage at her show in full view of hundreds of fans (and their phone cameras) so that a very private moment played out in public even though there were lots of ways to ensure that happened in actual private.
Etc.

All that stuff has really driven interest and gotten people very worked up, and if they'd jus made lower key choices there, it would not impact the course of their relationship at all, but it would make it a lot less camera-friendly and attract far less media attention. Which has led many of us to wonder if maybe the media attention is the whole point.

The convertible was Travis' personal car. You're acting like they rented it specifically for this. It's a car that he owns.

I don't think she dresses that differently from Brittany Mahomes tbh. (I don't know any of the other players wives and gfs.) She wears trendy clothes in the Chiefs colors.

I don't think she has that many non-celebrity friends? She has the one best friend from high school whose wedding she was a bridesmaid in a couple years ago, but she's been famous since she was 16, so almost 20 years later it makes sense that the majority of her friends are other celebrities. I do think her friends are tacky and annoying though.

I don't have any explanation for the thing with her dad, though it's not the gotcha people think it is.

Again, don't care either way but people are acting like all these things you mentioned are just sooooo bad and it's like...I couldn't care less if some young (oops sorry forgot she's 34 which is almost 35 which means her eggs are dead) pop star wears a bright red miniskirt to watch a football game.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

No, it's not being lost on us. We just think it's lame to have a freaking "easter egg" in your dating life, a planted reference designed to reward fans for obsessing over your every move. Like I think that's borderline insane. It also pushes fans to obsessive even more, looking for more references and secret codes, pulling apart her every move and word, looking for messages in her clothes, her hair, her shade of lipstick.

All of which is a great way to sell concert tickets and albums, but an absolutely deranged and gross way to conduct your personal life.

Which, again, is why some of us speculate that this is not actually her persona life, but a fake relationship being conducted for business reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has gotten so incredibly toxic. I wish Jeff would lock it.

NO. This thread is fun and I enjoy speculating about celebrity relationships. Just report the toxic MAGA crap -- I support you in that!

But I'm going to be so irritated if one of you gets this thread locked 2 weeks before Taylor goes to the Super Bowl to cheer on Travis. Where will we go to discuss what she wears? Whether she references Kelce at her Tokyo shows? Whether Travis puts a secret message to her in his IG posts leading up to the game? Where will we discuss and pull apart all the players and coaches having to answer press questions about "The Swift Effect." And oh yeah, I'm also hear for continued speculation about whether the entire relationship is fake, a PR ploy designed by reps for Swift, Kelce, NFL, and State Farm to drive revenue and interest in their respective products. I think that conversation is fun too!

Please do not take this away from me. It is the middle of winter, work is annoying, I am a tired middle-aged mom who needs some juicy celeb gossip to get me through. Report the dumb comments about how Taylor is old or ugly or whatever -- those are just the usual DCUM trolls being trolls. Some of us are really enjoying the celeb gossip aspect and I really don't want to take it away because it's so much easier to do this here than on other sites.

I wish all the people saying nasty things about her and dumping on the relationship would go to that toxic thread from a while ago about Taylor and leave this thread for those of us who want positive vibes and escapism via this relationship.

Wait! I’m not maga, I’m quite liberal, but I also think their relationship is being sold to us by the media for some weird reason. It seems so staged and over the top for being such a short relationship. And they’re doing it purposely if they were really dating for a month or two before becoming this massive brand that they are now. It’s fascinating to me! I want to be on this thread too, wouldn’t it be boring if the whole thread was just middle aged women cheering positive vibes for the happy couple?

Thank you!! I'm the PP who really does not want this thread to get shut down (or taken over by the weird MAGA people). I feel like there are people on the thread who are just mega-Swifties (which I have no problem with! I like her music and think it's cool how successful she is) and they want somewhere to just say "omg they are so cute." But, like, try Twitter? I want a place to actually *talk about* the phenomenon that is Taylor & Travis, which I agree is kind of weird due to the speed of their relationship and how it has played out publicly, and I definitely feel like there are weird "synergies" with both the NFL and Kelce's aspiring entertainment career that set off my "fake" radar.

I don't think any of those opinions are "toxic" or "bad vibes." It's just my honest opinion and I think this is interesting and want to discuss it with people who also find it interesting, even if we don't agree about it.

I think it is a real relationship and they are acting like anyone would in a normal relationship. But like Travis said, they do not want the attention and chaos to stop them from living their lives. I don’t think they are asking for it, but rather not hiding anything.

Not asking for it?? Didn’t he wear s Taylor swift sweat suit after his game when she first came to watch and then took her on a pap ride around in his open top convertible? I mean…. that’s clearly looking for a headline

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed that I know this but that wasn't a Taylor sweat suit -- the designer named it after Taylor AFTER Kelce was photographed in it with her.

Though I still think you can argue that choosing to dress like that for a pap walk through the stadium and then a top-down convertible ride through KC was attention grabbing in a way that the vast majority people (including even most celebrities) are not.

You can make that argument cause they're celebrities but at the end of the day they're also people and like...should they not enjoy little moments with each other? Who among us newly in love hasn't taken an evening drive together just to talk? Of course they're celebrities so it was in a much fancier car and on the way home from an NFL game. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't think they should be forced to hole up indoors all the time, because since they're celebrities, anything they do will inherently be attention-getting.

But I do see your point.

I don't want to argue this into the ground, but there is such a difference between what they do and being "force to hole up indoors all the time."

Like what is the attention difference, for them, between getting in a convertible and driving around with the top down, and getting in your standard rich person SUV? It's actually pretty large. If they'd just driven a normal rich person car on that night instead of a freaking 1950s fever dream, no one would have seen them or cared what they were doing. Choosing the super bespoke, showy option (the sort of thing that the director of a music video would choose for the "date scene" specifically because it's nostalgic and evocative and especially camera ready) every single time is what has made the attention paid to their relationship so over the top intense to the degree we are now at.

There is a version of Taylor & Travis in which they don't hide, everyone knows they are dating, there is definitely interest but people are not totally obsessed. It would involve them not choosing the showiest option every single time. That is not the route the have taken. They want people following they relationship breathlessly, and have made choices throughout to ensure that's the case.

Every single time? How do you know?

It was hyperbole, but I can think of a bunch of examples where they chose the attention-getting option that would result in extra photos/press coverage/fan obsession as opposed to the typical celeb option.

The vintage convertible over a black SUV.
Taylor wearing costumey cheerleader outfits to games that really stand out compared to how every other person, including other celebrities, are dressed.
Taylor bringing a rotating cast of high profile celebs to games with her, instead of, like, her mom or a non-celeb friend.
Travis and Taylor's dad arranging for her to greet him off stage at her show in full view of hundreds of fans (and their phone cameras) so that a very private moment played out in public even though there were lots of ways to ensure that happened in actual private.
Etc.

All that stuff has really driven interest and gotten people very worked up, and if they'd jus made lower key choices there, it would not impact the course of their relationship at all, but it would make it a lot less camera-friendly and attract far less media attention. Which has led many of us to wonder if maybe the media attention is the whole point.

Got it. Sound like it’s a you issue.

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Anonymous wrote:She has a song called Getaway Car. I feel that is being lost on some of you. Yes this was an easter egg. It was fun.

You’re agreeing with me that it was staged.

Of course. But I don’t see why that is some gotcha you think it is.

It was staged to the extent Kelce chose that car from extensive car collection to drive her in because it was her first time in KC and he wanted to impress her. Maybe he was thinking of Getaway Car? And, yeah, he probably ran it by her beforehand vis a vis her security. But what is the gotcha? I don't understand.

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Yeah so this is a MAGA take. This is it. Not "Oh, I think they do this for press." This.

I also find it funny because my brother is the right wing nut freak of our family (I love him nonetheless), worked in MAGA circles, is 35 and his gf is...somewhere around his age. 32 or 33, I would wager. I know it's because they're professionals who live in DC as opposed to a basement in BFE where these trolls are coming up with these hot takes, but it's really not that absurd for two professionals with law degrees to be unmarried in their early to mid-30s. Even Republicans.