Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:There's a new word in the urban slang dictionary -- "Israeled." To be "Israeled" means someone takes something that is yours, shamelessly pretends that it's theirs, and plays the victim if anyone tries to hold them accountable.

When I was eight years old, an older and much larger child shamelessly stole my toy and waltzed off with it during the school lunch break. My friends and I tried to talk to her, but she blew us off, and we had to line up for class shortly thereafter. The next day, I discussed it with these same friends, and we decided to confront her. We told her to return the toy, or we would go to the principal. She SCREAMED, "If you ever call me a stinking Jew again, my mother is going to talk to the principal!" I was horrified. I had not known she was Jewish, and even if I had, I would rather have died than have said anything like that. I immediately backed down, and that manipulative kid kept my toy. I got "Israeled."

This is very childish and petty.

Very, and it's what the pro-Israel crowd is brainwashed to do. Scream "antisemite" the moment they are challenged. Now they're committing genocide, they can't understand why it doesn't work quite as well for them.

I don't know what you are seeing that doesn't work--responding with oh no I am not an anti Semitie isn't a new novel gotcha that hasn't been tries before, doesn't cancel out the truth of anti-semitism.
In any event, the post about Israeled was very childish and petty, so your response about yes this it was Jews so doesn't make any sense as a response.

Oh, I know what the poster was doing. I just chose to turn it around. Someone taught that kid to claim victimhood by screaming antisemitism when she was challenged. She intimidated my 8yo self, which allowed her to get away with stealing from me. Isn't that what Israel has done? Stolen land and then screamed "Antisemitism!" and "But the holocaust!" when challenged? This isn't about true Judaism (many Orthodox Jews are passionately anti-Zionist). It's about Zionism that leverages victimhood to get what it wants. It's the MO of the illegal settlers in the West Bank.

You were challenged because your story is not true. Not only is it not true it’s pretty dumb and ridiculous.

It was indeed true. Nothing to do with her religion, but that kid was a thief and a budding sociopath who leveraged victimhood so she could steal and bully. Kind of like Israel.

Dude, just stop it. No one believes your idiotic story. You are a victim of your own imagination.

So you were there when it didn't happen? K

I was there when you made it up.

So now you're omniscient. Wow.

We Jews are everywhere to bring your bull to light.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a new word in the urban slang dictionary -- "Israeled." To be "Israeled" means someone takes something that is yours, shamelessly pretends that it's theirs, and plays the victim if anyone tries to hold them accountable.

When I was eight years old, an older and much larger child shamelessly stole my toy and waltzed off with it during the school lunch break. My friends and I tried to talk to her, but she blew us off, and we had to line up for class shortly thereafter. The next day, I discussed it with these same friends, and we decided to confront her. We told her to return the toy, or we would go to the principal. She SCREAMED, "If you ever call me a stinking Jew again, my mother is going to talk to the principal!" I was horrified. I had not known she was Jewish, and even if I had, I would rather have died than have said anything like that. I immediately backed down, and that manipulative kid kept my toy. I got "Israeled."

This is very childish and petty.

Very, and it's what the pro-Israel crowd is brainwashed to do. Scream "antisemite" the moment they are challenged. Now they're committing genocide, they can't understand why it doesn't work quite as well for them.

Nah, you’re just a POS.

Sincerely, a (lapsed) Protestant

More like a prolapsed "Protestant", if you know what I mean. I don't know why people think that concealing their bias for Israel is believable, or that claiming not to be Jewish somehow lends gravitas to their opinion (which is just a cloaked Islamophobic message every time anyway).

Invariably, they are either a Jewish person seeking to suggest broader gentile support by claiming to be one, related by marriage to someone who is Jewish, or just a garden variety racist who hates Black, Latino, and Muslim groups regardless the conversation. That latter group includes the Evangelicals.

Bracing myself to get Israel'd by the good squad here. I think I can take it, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a new word in the urban slang dictionary -- "Israeled." To be "Israeled" means someone takes something that is yours, shamelessly pretends that it's theirs, and plays the victim if anyone tries to hold them accountable.

When I was eight years old, an older and much larger child shamelessly stole my toy and waltzed off with it during the school lunch break. My friends and I tried to talk to her, but she blew us off, and we had to line up for class shortly thereafter. The next day, I discussed it with these same friends, and we decided to confront her. We told her to return the toy, or we would go to the principal. She SCREAMED, "If you ever call me a stinking Jew again, my mother is going to talk to the principal!" I was horrified. I had not known she was Jewish, and even if I had, I would rather have died than have said anything like that. I immediately backed down, and that manipulative kid kept my toy. I got "Israeled."

This is very childish and petty.

Very, and it's what the pro-Israel crowd is brainwashed to do. Scream "antisemite" the moment they are challenged. Now they're committing genocide, they can't understand why it doesn't work quite as well for them.

Nah, you’re just a POS.

Sincerely, a (lapsed) Protestant

More like a prolapsed "Protestant", if you know what I mean. I don't know why people think that concealing their bias for Israel is believable, or that claiming not to be Jewish somehow lends gravitas to their opinion (which is just a cloaked Islamophobic message every time anyway).

Invariably, they are either a Jewish person seeking to suggest broader gentile support by claiming to be one, related by marriage to someone who is Jewish, or just a garden variety racist who hates Black, Latino, and Muslim groups regardless the conversation. That latter group includes the Evangelicals.

Bracing myself to get Israel'd by the good squad here. I think I can take it, though.

The only person who is going to “israeled” you is your imaginary 8 year old bully.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel, the land where you can be detained indefinitely for thought crimes (but only if you're not Jewish), for the simple fact of not being Jewish, or for not being outspoken enough in denouncing Hamas. Also, the country where people from Russian and Ukraine tell Americans that they should be subject to prosecution in the U.S. court system for criticizing the actions of the IDF!

What a country!

You have clearly never been. In the words of a great comedian, I would rather be getting head in Tel Aviv, than getting head blown off in Gaza.

What a great thing to be proud of. Just like furniture, the best bedrooms are the silent ones

upset much that people are actually free to get head in Tel Aviv?

Well that’s nice what Israeli men have to wine and dine Palestinian men in jail can get for free from the female Israeli soldiers/guards who often get fired for relations with inmates.


Based on the amount of pregnant women and kids there alone, I don’t think Palestinian men feel deprived sexually .women probably but certainly not the guys

A reminder that the author of this word salad is totes okay with the Saudis.

A reminder that the author of this word salad thinks bigotry and blanket statements are normal.

I’m ok with Saudis just like I’m ok with Israelis, Palestinians, Germans, Americans, everyone . I am human just like everyone else . What are you?

Someone who thinks when you stone people to death in public squares and encourage your children to martyr themselves you shouldn't be in charge of anything. In other words, a sane human being who doesn't support a pack of misogynist medieval zealots.

Don't get me wrong, I hate Bibi too, and anyone else who thinks they can use cannon fodder who think they're fighting a holy war to achieve their own ends... But something that was sadly missing in your undergraduate lecture "coloniasm is bad for children and other living things," was any understanding about what leads to foreign influence, consolidation of power and empire-building. It's really quite simple. Eventually enough people get tired of cosplaying the crusades and just want to live somewhere without bombs.

Which Palestinians stoned people in public squares? Surely they haven’t stoned enough if the settlers keep growing and growing in the West Bank.

When did they ask children to martyr themselves? Last I checked it it was Isrsel that had a mandatory draft for high schoolers men and women? Israelis send their kids to potentially martyr snd die for Israel . Every kid but Bibi’s of course .

Was Israel invaded and taken hostage on 10/7 by children? This is the sickness and pathology that is frightening for me to read as anti Semitism is itself . They can’t keep the dignity of children’s innocence even in death. They’re human shields, martyrs, anything but human to you.

Just admit you want every Palestinian child dead. Say it. Every living thing from the ants to the trees to every living and breathing soul.


I would respect the chutzpah to just say it.

You can’t ever forgive 10/7 but except Palestinians to forgive Israel for everything and just move on and deal with death because their lives and families aren’t as precious because they are a religious zealot, bloodthirsty antiquated, people. Oh wait.. that’s Israel.

Palestinians were the ones that were multifaith and cosmopolitan and had no issue with the other colonizers before (Turks, Brits) because they didn’t kill them or expel them from their homes.
Israel can’t even handle a fraction of the death and fear and terror Palestinians faced for decades .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t have universal healthcare, daycare, college, maternity leave pay.
Nothing.

Young people are not drinking the koolaid anymore. The country needs to retreat and focus on self for once

Ok, Trumper

Yes, Trump is totally for universal health care and increasing taxes. Try again

[Anonymous]

What will it take for the region to have lasting peace?
What kind of border does Israel need for it to no longer build illegal settlements?
The talk about defeating Hamas is just a distraction, it will re-emerge under a different name if need be, so is the intent to really annihilate every Gazan?
The place has become uninhabitable. Too much rubble and unexploded bombs, no health care, no food, no economy
Does Israel think that the rest of the world is going to feed them?

I do not that there has ever been a war this brutal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a new word in the urban slang dictionary -- "Israeled." To be "Israeled" means someone takes something that is yours, shamelessly pretends that it's theirs, and plays the victim if anyone tries to hold them accountable.

When I was eight years old, an older and much larger child shamelessly stole my toy and waltzed off with it during the school lunch break. My friends and I tried to talk to her, but she blew us off, and we had to line up for class shortly thereafter. The next day, I discussed it with these same friends, and we decided to confront her. We told her to return the toy, or we would go to the principal. She SCREAMED, "If you ever call me a stinking Jew again, my mother is going to talk to the principal!" I was horrified. I had not known she was Jewish, and even if I had, I would rather have died than have said anything like that. I immediately backed down, and that manipulative kid kept my toy. I got "Israeled."

This is very childish and petty.

Very, and it's what the pro-Israel crowd is brainwashed to do. Scream "antisemite" the moment they are challenged. Now they're committing genocide, they can't understand why it doesn't work quite as well for them.

I don't know what you are seeing that doesn't work--responding with oh no I am not an anti Semitie isn't a new novel gotcha that hasn't been tries before, doesn't cancel out the truth of anti-semitism.
In any event, the post about Israeled was very childish and petty, so your response about yes this it was Jews so doesn't make any sense as a response.

Oh, I know what the poster was doing. I just chose to turn it around. Someone taught that kid to claim victimhood by screaming antisemitism when she was challenged. She intimidated my 8yo self, which allowed her to get away with stealing from me. Isn't that what Israel has done? Stolen land and then screamed "Antisemitism!" and "But the holocaust!" when challenged? This isn't about true Judaism (many Orthodox Jews are passionately anti-Zionist). It's about Zionism that leverages victimhood to get what it wants. It's the MO of the illegal settlers in the West Bank.

You were challenged because your story is not true. Not only is it not true it’s pretty dumb and ridiculous.

It was indeed true. Nothing to do with her religion, but that kid was a thief and a budding sociopath who leveraged victimhood so she could steal and bully. Kind of like Israel.

Forgot to mention that a Black person once mugged me.

I now bring them up whenever talking about Africa.

That’s ok, right?

Did the Black person claim they had the right to mug you because you are personally guilty of systemic racism? That is the analogy here.

Of course he did.

And it's not an isolated incident.

[Anonymous]

Yesterday authorities in Gaza accused Israel of stealing organs from Palestinian corpses.

From the WaPo:

Palestinian officials said Tuesday that Israel had returned the bodies of 80 people it had held during the Gaza war via the Kerem Shalom border crossing. The Hamas-run government media office said Israel had not identified the bodies or said where they had been taken from. They had been “mutilated,” the media office said in a statement, and there were “clear” indications that organs had been “stolen” from the corpses.

The claims could not be independently verified. The Israel Defense Forces referred questions about the bodies to the Israeli agency for civilian coordination with the Palestinians, which did not immediately respond. The corpses, wrapped in blue body bags, were buried Tuesday in a mass grave.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday authorities in Gaza accused Israel of stealing organs from Palestinian corpses.

From the WaPo:

Palestinian officials said Tuesday that Israel had returned the bodies of 80 people it had held during the Gaza war via the Kerem Shalom border crossing. The Hamas-run government media office said Israel had not identified the bodies or said where they had been taken from. They had been “mutilated,” the media office said in a statement, and there were “clear” indications that organs had been “stolen” from the corpses.

The claims could not be independently verified. The Israel Defense Forces referred questions about the bodies to the Israeli agency for civilian coordination with the Palestinians, which did not immediately respond. The corpses, wrapped in blue body bags, were buried Tuesday in a mass grave.

Yikes
Lunatics

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here read The Lemon Tree? It’s a book about the history of Isreal / Palestine incorporating personal histories of an Israeli and a Palestinian.

In that book, the Israeli (who is Jewish) notes she believes that
“the key to coexistence lay in what she called "the three A's": acknowledgment of what had happened to the Palestinians in 1948, apology for it, and amends.”

Why can’t this an approach for Israel to take?

What should’ve happened in 1948 should’ve been Jews taking over East Germany as their state and dealing with the reality of the times. Tons of ethnic groups practically have their own state in Eastern Europe and many on religious ground as well (see Bosnia and Serbia).

The existence of a Jewish state of Israel thousands of years ago in the Biblical era is an insane reason to take back a country. That’s like Muslim Jihadists wanting to take back Europe/Spain like centuries past or the Confederate or Mayflower sympathizers who want to go back to a time Past.

Imagine if Native Americans came back thousands of years from today wanting to take back the entire United States after centuries. Much like Palestinians , we would be confused. Immigration from religious or ethnic persecution is always allowed but taking back, displacing the current population from their homes , and reviving an ancient Biblical state is something different.

This is why people want the U.S. to stop giving money to Israel--to facilitate reversing the above, they think Israel will be alone and vulnerable and will fall under their attack of the pesky U.S. get out of the way. The protests are not about what is currently going on in Gaza, they don't care about that.

You and the PP are so woefully ignorant of Jews in the Middle East. Jew aren’t just connected to the region from biblical times …. They’ve been in the region and ethnically cleansed and persecuted and eradicated over recent decades. This isn’t far off history. This is recent memory.

You people talk about Israeli “propaganda”. But it’s clear that so much of what is driving the current anti-Jewish sentiment is Arab propaganda aimed at diminishing the presence of Jews in the Middle East. Look at countries like Tunisia, Algeria, Iraq, Egypt, and Iran … Jews essentially eradicated over the last century. This isn’t ancient history.

They weren’t eradicated. They’re in Israel honey. Majority of Israel are Middle Eastern Jews expelled after the state of Israel was created in 1948 by European colonialist Jews who didn’t even like or treat Middle Eastern Jewish brethren fairly in the first place. They still never elected an Mizrahi prime minister despite Askhenazis being the minority in the country and we all know why that is.


Mizrahi Jews were second class citizens in Israel until the Ethiopian Beta Israel came in the 80s

Oh sweetie, I know you Googled real hard to get smart on “Baseless Nonsense About Jews” but it’s going to take more than that.

Not going to dismantle all the ridiculous things, but to start, Ashkenazi Jews are middle eastern Jews. They aren’t European non-Jews who became Jewish and then came to Israel. They are people who were from the Levant, escaped horrific persecution at the hands of invaders - Christian and Islamic and in more recent decades, Arabs.

Ashkenazi Jews are Middle Eastern Jews in the same way Palestinians are former Middle Eastern Jews or Roman Christian’s or Ottoman Turks or Yemenis are Ethiopians or Sicilians are maternally Ashkenazi Jews . Everyone was something else in the past .

The point is the past is usually the past and people move on. Do Mexicans have a birthright to Spain or the Southwestern US and the right to ethnically cleanse the locals in present day countries?

Maybe talk about what you know?

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So many ignorant people. The genetic evidence is clear that Jewish people have a male haplotype traceable to the Middle East and a female haplotype traceable to Europe. They are a mixture. Current Arab Levantine Arabs are more closely descended from ancient inhabitants of the region than ashkenazi Jews are

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday authorities in Gaza accused Israel of stealing organs from Palestinian corpses.

From the WaPo:

Palestinian officials said Tuesday that Israel had returned the bodies of 80 people it had held during the Gaza war via the Kerem Shalom border crossing. The Hamas-run government media office said Israel had not identified the bodies or said where they had been taken from. They had been “mutilated,” the media office said in a statement, and there were “clear” indications that organs had been “stolen” from the corpses.

The claims could not be independently verified. The Israel Defense Forces referred questions about the bodies to the Israeli agency for civilian coordination with the Palestinians, which did not immediately respond. The corpses, wrapped in blue body bags, were buried Tuesday in a mass grave.

Yikes
Lunatics

Even without the allegations of mutilation and organ theft, shouldn’t Israel, a self-declared first world civilized democracy with stellar human rights credentials, be able to account for the death of 80 individuals in its custody?

[Anonymous]

Wow this thread has devolved into complete lefty lunatics (at best) and actual fundamentalist jihadism based on false and incendiary propaganda (at worst).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday authorities in Gaza accused Israel of stealing organs from Palestinian corpses.

From the WaPo:

Palestinian officials said Tuesday that Israel had returned the bodies of 80 people it had held during the Gaza war via the Kerem Shalom border crossing. The Hamas-run government media office said Israel had not identified the bodies or said where they had been taken from. They had been “mutilated,” the media office said in a statement, and there were “clear” indications that organs had been “stolen” from the corpses.

The claims could not be independently verified. The Israel Defense Forces referred questions about the bodies to the Israeli agency for civilian coordination with the Palestinians, which did not immediately respond. The corpses, wrapped in blue body bags, were buried Tuesday in a mass grave.

Yikes
Lunatics

Even without the allegations of mutilation and organ theft, shouldn’t Israel, a self-declared first world civilized democracy with stellar human rights credentials, be able to account for the death of 80 individuals in its custody?

lol

[Anonymous]

Israel has gone well past targeting the leaders of Hamas and is now simply engaged in revenge, which of course will breed more support for Hamas and other terrorist groups. The cycle continues.