APS Closing Nottingham

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely not. Kids in that area need green space and fields too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not. Kids in that area need green space and fields too.

Didn’t you hear, everyone is supposed to make sacrifices for the greater good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

1. It would cost much more than it would cost to prepare NES as swing space.
2. The space is needed for the outdoor space for the students at the CC site. JROTC students practice on the parking lot which is now about a third covered in trailers. Archery and PE classes, ability to offer some additional extracurriculars perhaps. And all you people complaining about the buses needed for NES?! You want to put a second "all bused" school onto the site? I've seen the Nottingham neighborhood. Have you seen the CC neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

1. It would cost much more than it would cost to prepare NES as swing space.
2. The space is needed for the outdoor space for the students at the CC site. JROTC students practice on the parking lot which is now about a third covered in trailers. Archery and PE classes, ability to offer some additional extracurriculars perhaps. And all you people complaining about the buses needed for NES?! You want to put a second "all bused" school onto the site? I've seen the Nottingham neighborhood. Have you seen the CC neighborhood?

Part of the plan for Nottingham as a swing space is to vastly reduce the amount of green space by adding multiple additional trailers. There’s no perfect solution. However, MPSA is more central and will be an empty elementary school already, requiring zero redistricting to accommodate this plan.

You’ll still get your green space, it’ll just be delayed. As far as busses go, elementary and high school are not at the same times. No issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

1. It would cost much more than it would cost to prepare NES as swing space.
2. The space is needed for the outdoor space for the students at the CC site. JROTC students practice on the parking lot which is now about a third covered in trailers. Archery and PE classes, ability to offer some additional extracurriculars perhaps. And all you people complaining about the buses needed for NES?! You want to put a second "all bused" school onto the site? I've seen the Nottingham neighborhood. Have you seen the CC neighborhood?

Um, they’ll be getting a shiny brand new school, which I believe will be the most expensive in APS history. They can deal with limited green space for a few years.

[Anonymous]

Let’s not lose sight of the basic question of whether a swing space is even needed. APS says they have $40m and I’m forgetting the number, but like 15-17 schools that need repairs.

They don’t have “tear down a school and rebuild it” money (which is why other districts nearby have used swing spaces). They have “fix the HVAC over the summer and remove mold during nights and weekends” kinds of money. $2-$3m per school can help with security vestibules and kitchens (noted in the CIP) but I really can’t imagine why either of those things would necessitate $5m in spending on adding trailers to Nottingham to move kids? Wouldn’t the better thing be to use that $5m on the actual renovations at other schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s not lose sight of the basic question of whether a swing space is even needed. APS says they have $40m and I’m forgetting the number, but like 15-17 schools that need repairs.

They don’t have “tear down a school and rebuild it” money (which is why other districts nearby have used swing spaces). They have “fix the HVAC over the summer and remove mold during nights and weekends” kinds of money. $2-$3m per school can help with security vestibules and kitchens (noted in the CIP) but I really can’t imagine why either of those things would necessitate $5m in spending on adding trailers to Nottingham to move kids? Wouldn’t the better thing be to use that $5m on the actual renovations at other schools?

Yep to all of this. Seems they just are dead set on closing the school whether it makes sense or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

1. It would cost much more than it would cost to prepare NES as swing space.
2. The space is needed for the outdoor space for the students at the CC site. JROTC students practice on the parking lot which is now about a third covered in trailers. Archery and PE classes, ability to offer some additional extracurriculars perhaps. And all you people complaining about the buses needed for NES?! You want to put a second "all bused" school onto the site? I've seen the Nottingham neighborhood. Have you seen the CC neighborhood?

Um, they’ll be getting a shiny brand new school, which I believe will be the most expensive in APS history. They can deal with limited green space for a few years.

Again, absolutely not. They’ve already waited YEARS so far for improvements. And green space is just not for CC students but also for the kids that live in the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods who have lost so much green space and play areas already. You know, the ones you pretend to care about so much. So if you want to talk about fairness and equity, bring it on, because you will lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

1. It would cost much more than it would cost to prepare NES as swing space.
2. The space is needed for the outdoor space for the students at the CC site. JROTC students practice on the parking lot which is now about a third covered in trailers. Archery and PE classes, ability to offer some additional extracurriculars perhaps. And all you people complaining about the buses needed for NES?! You want to put a second "all bused" school onto the site? I've seen the Nottingham neighborhood. Have you seen the CC neighborhood?

Um, they’ll be getting a shiny brand new school, which I believe will be the most expensive in APS history. They can deal with limited green space for a few years.

Again, absolutely not. They’ve already waited YEARS so far for improvements. And green space is just not for CC students but also for the kids that live in the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods who have lost so much green space and play areas already. You know, the ones you pretend to care about so much. So if you want to talk about fairness and equity, bring it on, because you will lose.

Better get ready because this is looking more likely as the interim swing space solution. Makes too much sense. APS breaks promises all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

1. It would cost much more than it would cost to prepare NES as swing space.
2. The space is needed for the outdoor space for the students at the CC site. JROTC students practice on the parking lot which is now about a third covered in trailers. Archery and PE classes, ability to offer some additional extracurriculars perhaps. And all you people complaining about the buses needed for NES?! You want to put a second "all bused" school onto the site? I've seen the Nottingham neighborhood. Have you seen the CC neighborhood?

Um, they’ll be getting a shiny brand new school, which I believe will be the most expensive in APS history. They can deal with limited green space for a few years.

Again, absolutely not. They’ve already waited YEARS so far for improvements. And green space is just not for CC students but also for the kids that live in the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods who have lost so much green space and play areas already. You know, the ones you pretend to care about so much. So if you want to talk about fairness and equity, bring it on, because you will lose.

Better get ready because this is looking more likely as the interim swing space solution. Makes too much sense. APS breaks promises all the time.

But APS can’t break the use permit without going through the process. So if you think it’s so simple think again.

[Anonymous]

The extreme contortions that Nottingham people will go to to preserve an underenrolled school surrounded by other underenrolled schools will never surprise me. These women need jobs, or more fulfilling jobs than they currently have.

[Anonymous]

This plan is not going to work for anyone. Whichever side you take. Way to go APS, you all are horrible at your jobs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s for Montessori, and I think that’s all covered in the current CIP, because it’s part of the CC project. No?

They don’t have enough available funding before they hit their bond limit.

I believe the demolition of Henry is part of the CC project, and included in the cost? And so they need to move Montessori to a swing space to await the renovation of the old CC building. It’s “other” projects, like if an emergency HVAC or roof repair has to happen that isn’t in the current CIP, and that’s the concern. Isn’t this what the plan has always been, what changed was the swing space.

Renovating CC for Montessori is part of the project, yes. But the current Montessori building is not being demolished until the renovation is done and Montessori moves into it. THEN they will demolish the current Montessori building. Montessori does not need swing space. If swing space were available, however, perhaps using it for Montessori could facilitate getting the project done sooner because it could be done in two phases instead of three.

Phase three is just tearing down the current building to make room for athletic fields. There has been no public discussion about using swing space for the Montessori project - I don’t think the timing even lines up.

There has been however discussion about using the existing Montessori building as swing space once the new building is finished instead of tearing it down, but APS claims it isn’t possible. I mean it’ll be an empty school in center of the county so seems perfect. They say it is in too much disrepair but put the $5 million you’re spending on Nottingham into this idea instead.

1. It would cost much more than it would cost to prepare NES as swing space.
2. The space is needed for the outdoor space for the students at the CC site. JROTC students practice on the parking lot which is now about a third covered in trailers. Archery and PE classes, ability to offer some additional extracurriculars perhaps. And all you people complaining about the buses needed for NES?! You want to put a second "all bused" school onto the site? I've seen the Nottingham neighborhood. Have you seen the CC neighborhood?

Um, they’ll be getting a shiny brand new school, which I believe will be the most expensive in APS history. They can deal with limited green space for a few years.

Again, absolutely not. They’ve already waited YEARS so far for improvements. And green space is just not for CC students but also for the kids that live in the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods who have lost so much green space and play areas already. You know, the ones you pretend to care about so much. So if you want to talk about fairness and equity, bring it on, because you will lose.

Better get ready because this is looking more likely as the interim swing space solution. Makes too much sense. APS breaks promises all the time.

They’re still going to close Nottingham, swing space or no. Your enrollment doesn’t justify an entire school and the expense of operating a building and duplicating staff for so few kids, when there are empty seats at adjacent schools. I guess you’d rather it sit empty or APS sell it than allow outsiders to invade your precious neighborhoods?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The extreme contortions that Nottingham people will go to to preserve an underenrolled school surrounded by other underenrolled schools will never surprise me. These women need jobs, or more fulfilling jobs than they currently have.

Their reaction is actually 100 percent the fault of APS. This is what happens when you allow a socioeconomically diverse school district to be so segregated. These Nottingham people are clueless because they live in a bubble of APS’s and the County’s making. Hopefully change is coming soon because this model isn’t sustainable.