Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We have a kid in my DS’s baseball team whose parents brag about not being part of the test prep crowd. Yet their son has been pushed to take Algebra II in 8th, on every math/science competition team, plays travel sports, volunteer etc. They just decided to work a different angle to get into TJ. It has been all they talk about. They are the type of parents who would have their kid in any niche thing to get them into an Ivy but try to act like the kid is just such a natural genius. I’m sure I will hear if he got in and not a word if he didn’t.


What's funny about a parent like YOU is that you will be doing the exact same things in 3 years when it's time for college admissions without batting an eyelid. Just because someone else is doing similar things ahead of a schedule your kind developed doesn't mean that's bad. It's just different. Let's see how many of you take the SAT on "RAW" talent. Some fools spend over $500/HOUR on SAT coaching and not one of them is Asian.


Which is why many of us will be happy to see the SAT and ACT go away for good.


And admit kids to college based on what? A touchy feely essay about how they love Pizza? At this rate, I need to put my kids in Chinese language school..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A lot of the kids who did really well in Mathcounts, AMC, Science Olympiad and hence mentioned it in the essays got rejected. It seems they want to root out these kids in the name of equity to give opportunity to those who did not do these events.


Train your kids to say "I think 2+2 = 5" when they write their essays for next year. Combined with a 4.0, that would guarantee admission to TJ.
Anonymous
The new TJ wants to give all kids an opportunity to explore their science potential- the school board has been saying that for months!

Kids who are already involved in Science Olympiad have elitist parents who have been involved in their education for years- those kids will continue to excel….
Anonymous
I'm genuinely sorry to read these bitter posts. I know it's hard to be denied admission after having spent a fortune on prep.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely sorry to read these bitter posts. I know it's hard to be denied admission after having spent a fortune on prep.


If you have the money to push an agenda but don't have the brains to get the smart kids to applaud you for it, what better petty solution than to make being smart look like overprivileged villainy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of the kids who did really well in Mathcounts, AMC, Science Olympiad and hence mentioned it in the essays got rejected. It seems they want to root out these kids in the name of equity to give opportunity to those who did not do these events.


Well, of course. All of those kids who are in Algebra II or pre-calc and who spend a lot of time doing STEM extracurriculars are just overly prepped products of their parents' pushing, and they're not at all special. The truly special kids are the ones who haven't demonstrated any particular aptitude in or passion for STEM. That Algebra I kid who didn't join any STEM extracurriculars and didn't earn any elite awards is the true talent.


From our middle school, a few kids that got in are exactly what you define as Over prepped. Algebra 2, Math Counts, AMC 8 honor roll, Science Olympiad medal winners - yet they made it. But there are another few with similar achievements showing their interest in STEM that are in the waitlist. And there are a few that played video games all the way and got offers too. How do you explain this kind of variation in acceptances? I believe all of them had 4.0 GPA, some Algebra 2 and some Geometry. And mind you almost all of them took prep classes . So please stop generalizing and defending this admission process as identifiers of true talent



Your sarcasm meter seems to be malfunctioning. You should look into that.


Poe's Law
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm genuinely sorry to read these bitter posts. I know it's hard to be denied admission after having spent a fortune on prep.


If you have the money to push an agenda but don't have the brains to get the smart kids to applaud you for it, what better petty solution than to make being smart look like overprivileged villainy?


Or to make average appear smart by taking lots of prep as the evidence suggests when roughly a third of the entering class attended Curie.
Anonymous
Maybe I am missing something, but it looks like blacks, hispanics and whites increased their percentage of those admitted to TJ? Asians had a slight decrease? The biggest decrease was from private schools. Does the bitterness from some stem from those who prepped their kids for the past few years for admission but the rules changed for this year and hence they couldn't adapt in time? Are those mostly hispanic, asian, white or black kids? Since the admissions process was race blind, just a number and not a name, it doesn't look like anyone was targeted for a decrease? And if your kid was in private school, it makes sense that you decided a private school provided a better education, so who cares if you didn't get in to TJ? Am I missing something?
Anonymous
Yes, you are missing a lot. First, the statements by officials that made it clear they were looking to improve numbers for certain racial groups and decrease one other.

Second, the admissions process that weighted experience factors, such as FARMS, so they now have 25% FARMS. Not a bad thing in and of itself, but a sign that shows how little STEM aptitude and passion factored into the process.

Third, the process made quotas for each middle school based on attending, not assigned school (which had a huge effect — with no advance notice — on kids whose base schools are lower SES but they opted to attend a center). These quotas also had the desired effect of limiting offers to Asian Americans since many are clustered in a few middle schools.

The percentage of offers to Asian Americans is down by about 20%.
Anonymous
Look on the bright side. Maybe TJ can have a football team again that doesn't play against the nuns, random groups of homeschooled kids, and DC charters with student bodies about 1/10th the size of TJ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am missing something, but it looks like blacks, hispanics and whites increased their percentage of those admitted to TJ? Asians had a slight decrease? The biggest decrease was from private schools. Does the bitterness from some stem from those who prepped their kids for the past few years for admission but the rules changed for this year and hence they couldn't adapt in time? Are those mostly hispanic, asian, white or black kids? Since the admissions process was race blind, just a number and not a name, it doesn't look like anyone was targeted for a decrease? And if your kid was in private school, it makes sense that you decided a private school provided a better education, so who cares if you didn't get in to TJ? Am I missing something?


The sad irony is that since they didn't have any aptitude testing, didn't have teacher recommendations, didn't give weight to STEM achievements, and didn't consider math level in their decisions, they got the wrong black and hispanic kids. Black and Hispanic kids who are STEM superstars got waitlisted. Others in Algebra I with no demonstrated STEM excellence got in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am missing something, but it looks like blacks, hispanics and whites increased their percentage of those admitted to TJ? Asians had a slight decrease? The biggest decrease was from private schools. Does the bitterness from some stem from those who prepped their kids for the past few years for admission but the rules changed for this year and hence they couldn't adapt in time? Are those mostly hispanic, asian, white or black kids? Since the admissions process was race blind, just a number and not a name, it doesn't look like anyone was targeted for a decrease? And if your kid was in private school, it makes sense that you decided a private school provided a better education, so who cares if you didn't get in to TJ? Am I missing something?


The sad irony is that since they didn't have any aptitude testing, didn't have teacher recommendations, didn't give weight to STEM achievements, and didn't consider math level in their decisions, they got the wrong black and hispanic kids. Black and Hispanic kids who are STEM superstars got waitlisted. Others in Algebra I with no demonstrated STEM excellence got in.


It is all in their plan. I used to think Asra Nomani was overreacting, but now I see that her claims have been true. They have no interest preserving TJ as the number one high school for advanced students in STEM. They want to use it as a first step in ridding advanced education for the top kids. Hence, their acceptance of less advanced white kids and Asian kids over the highly advanced kids in the same middle schools. They wanted to make sure that the TJ Class of 2025 didn't end up with huge gaps in abilities so that the less advanced of the URM and FARM kids got in would not fail 9th grade.

AP courses are already watered down in base schools. They are watering down the AAP program. I was a big supporter of the public school system for decades. Now I wonder if school choice is a better answer. There is just too much hostility towards smart kids in public schools
Anonymous
Please. My kid got in. Girl. 4.0. Algebra 2. CS background. Mathcounts. Science fair winner. Maybe your kid bombed the essay or the math problem. Is that possible? They aren’t excluding kids with classic TJ profiles. They are just evaluating them differently.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please. My kid got in. Girl. 4.0. Algebra 2. CS background. Mathcounts. Science fair winner. Maybe your kid bombed the essay or the math problem. Is that possible? They aren’t excluding kids with classic TJ profiles. They are just evaluating them differently.


Of course they will have to have some traditional over achievers that fit the TJ admits of earlier years as well to make sure that the school has a few extremely strong capable students to win the academic competitions, Science Fairs, Science Olympiad, Quiz Bowl , all the Biology, Chemistry Olympiads etc and the school still has something to retain its USP. But the number of kids who will make the strong academic clubs will be significantly reduced. I won’t be surprised if TJ faces tough competitions now that many successful STEM superstars successfully represent and win competitions from their base schools. It remains to be seen how many NMSQT semi finalists/ finalists are produced by TJ for this batch ( class of 2025)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please. My kid got in. Girl. 4.0. Algebra 2. CS background. Mathcounts. Science fair winner. Maybe your kid bombed the essay or the math problem. Is that possible? They aren’t excluding kids with classic TJ profiles. They are just evaluating them differently.


Congrats! I hope she loves it. The problem is this new process is completely hidden — no objective scores, unclear weighting of experience factors such as ELL and FARMS, quotas that cut of spots to qualified kids at certain middle schools.
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