
And admit kids to college based on what? A touchy feely essay about how they love Pizza? At this rate, I need to put my kids in Chinese language school.. |
Train your kids to say "I think 2+2 = 5" when they write their essays for next year. Combined with a 4.0, that would guarantee admission to TJ. |
The new TJ wants to give all kids an opportunity to explore their science potential- the school board has been saying that for months!
Kids who are already involved in Science Olympiad have elitist parents who have been involved in their education for years- those kids will continue to excel…. |
I'm genuinely sorry to read these bitter posts. I know it's hard to be denied admission after having spent a fortune on prep. |
If you have the money to push an agenda but don't have the brains to get the smart kids to applaud you for it, what better petty solution than to make being smart look like overprivileged villainy? |
Poe's Law |
Or to make average appear smart by taking lots of prep as the evidence suggests when roughly a third of the entering class attended Curie. |
Maybe I am missing something, but it looks like blacks, hispanics and whites increased their percentage of those admitted to TJ? Asians had a slight decrease? The biggest decrease was from private schools. Does the bitterness from some stem from those who prepped their kids for the past few years for admission but the rules changed for this year and hence they couldn't adapt in time? Are those mostly hispanic, asian, white or black kids? Since the admissions process was race blind, just a number and not a name, it doesn't look like anyone was targeted for a decrease? And if your kid was in private school, it makes sense that you decided a private school provided a better education, so who cares if you didn't get in to TJ? Am I missing something? |
Yes, you are missing a lot. First, the statements by officials that made it clear they were looking to improve numbers for certain racial groups and decrease one other.
Second, the admissions process that weighted experience factors, such as FARMS, so they now have 25% FARMS. Not a bad thing in and of itself, but a sign that shows how little STEM aptitude and passion factored into the process. Third, the process made quotas for each middle school based on attending, not assigned school (which had a huge effect — with no advance notice — on kids whose base schools are lower SES but they opted to attend a center). These quotas also had the desired effect of limiting offers to Asian Americans since many are clustered in a few middle schools. The percentage of offers to Asian Americans is down by about 20%. |
Look on the bright side. Maybe TJ can have a football team again that doesn't play against the nuns, random groups of homeschooled kids, and DC charters with student bodies about 1/10th the size of TJ. |
The sad irony is that since they didn't have any aptitude testing, didn't have teacher recommendations, didn't give weight to STEM achievements, and didn't consider math level in their decisions, they got the wrong black and hispanic kids. Black and Hispanic kids who are STEM superstars got waitlisted. Others in Algebra I with no demonstrated STEM excellence got in. |
It is all in their plan. I used to think Asra Nomani was overreacting, but now I see that her claims have been true. They have no interest preserving TJ as the number one high school for advanced students in STEM. They want to use it as a first step in ridding advanced education for the top kids. Hence, their acceptance of less advanced white kids and Asian kids over the highly advanced kids in the same middle schools. They wanted to make sure that the TJ Class of 2025 didn't end up with huge gaps in abilities so that the less advanced of the URM and FARM kids got in would not fail 9th grade. AP courses are already watered down in base schools. They are watering down the AAP program. I was a big supporter of the public school system for decades. Now I wonder if school choice is a better answer. There is just too much hostility towards smart kids in public schools |
Please. My kid got in. Girl. 4.0. Algebra 2. CS background. Mathcounts. Science fair winner. Maybe your kid bombed the essay or the math problem. Is that possible? They aren’t excluding kids with classic TJ profiles. They are just evaluating them differently. |
Of course they will have to have some traditional over achievers that fit the TJ admits of earlier years as well to make sure that the school has a few extremely strong capable students to win the academic competitions, Science Fairs, Science Olympiad, Quiz Bowl , all the Biology, Chemistry Olympiads etc and the school still has something to retain its USP. But the number of kids who will make the strong academic clubs will be significantly reduced. I won’t be surprised if TJ faces tough competitions now that many successful STEM superstars successfully represent and win competitions from their base schools. It remains to be seen how many NMSQT semi finalists/ finalists are produced by TJ for this batch ( class of 2025) |
Congrats! I hope she loves it. The problem is this new process is completely hidden — no objective scores, unclear weighting of experience factors such as ELL and FARMS, quotas that cut of spots to qualified kids at certain middle schools. |