Do DC parents still blame teacher unions for everything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

No this sentiment is only in high SES areas. As we know, lower SES areas predominate DC and DC schools. The WTU may be f**ked there but it isn’t throughout the city. If you can’t see that you have no political sense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

No this sentiment is only in high SES areas. As we know, lower SES areas predominate DC and DC schools. The WTU may be f**ked there but it isn’t throughout the city. If you can’t see that you have no political sense

This is not true. I am in Ward 5 and the sentiment on this side of the city is the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Muriel bowser has had an antagonistic relationship with the WTU from the jump. I don’t think it matters one bit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

"Teachers" =/= the WTU

Yes, obviously the two are linked, but I've come to think that a lot of teachers don't support the WTU (and the charter teachers largely aren't unionized).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

I had no opinion of teachers unions before the pandemic. Now, I will vote against any elected official who supports WTU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

I had no opinion of teachers unions before the pandemic. Now, I will vote against any elected official who supports WTU.

Don’t worry. They will still win. Just like they did this past election

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

I had no opinion of teachers unions before the pandemic. Now, I will vote against any elected official who supports WTU.

Don’t worry. They will still win. Just like they did this past election

Friend, your political sense is...not good. (And we haven't had any primaries in D.C. since schools closed in August).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

"Teachers" =/= the WTU

Yes, obviously the two are linked, but I've come to think that a lot of teachers don't support the WTU (and the charter teachers largely aren't unionized).

Anyone who has been to the clusterF that is a union meeting can attest to this. To think that the WTU is some powerful lobby is some serious cognitive dissonance. The only time they accomplished anything to do with reopening was when they successfully filed their PERB complaint. If you have a problem with an organization trying to protect its members rights from being stomped on, that says more about you than the union.

Additionally, Teachers voted STRONGLY against striking, but that probably doesn’t fit your proud boys terrorists narrative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

"Teachers" =/= the WTU

Yes, obviously the two are linked, but I've come to think that a lot of teachers don't support the WTU (and the charter teachers largely aren't unionized).

Anyone who has been to the clusterF that is a union meeting can attest to this. To think that the WTU is some powerful lobby is some serious cognitive dissonance. The only time they accomplished anything to do with reopening was when they successfully filed their PERB complaint. If you have a problem with an organization trying to protect its members rights from being stomped on, that says more about you than the union.

Additionally, Teachers voted STRONGLY against striking, but that probably doesn’t fit your proud boys terrorists narrative.

Except teachers did go on strike. No one called it that, because that had serious legal implications that people were trying to avoid, but that's what it was. They refused to go to work so schools couldn't open (even though daycares and private schools and public schools most everywhere else were open).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just settle down. People are still dying and only 50 percent of the population is vaccinated. You people in upper NW have an entirely different existence than the rest of the city and you prove it on this site every day. You don't know everything and stop blaming worker organizations that are mostly comprised of women of color for your own weird preconceptions and slated view of the world.

so I’m not supposed to care that black kids in SE have dramatically worse access to education than my kid? makes sense.

Well there are better ways to show you care then yelling on this site. Here’s two off the top of my head
1) Send letters to your public officials; they are the ones who make decisions.
2) if your school has a well funded PTA, try and see if there are ways to share that many around the city. Schools WOTP typically have multiple positions funded by PTA that schools in SE can’t afford. Similar with technology.

I do #1 frequently, and I also know that conversations online absolutely are followed by public officials. I’m talking to them here, too.
#2 has zero to do with school reopening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

I had no opinion of teachers unions before the pandemic. Now, I will vote against any elected official who supports WTU.

Did we have an election? The at large candidate was endorsed by the WTU.

Don’t worry. They will still win. Just like they did this past election

Friend, your political sense is...not good. (And we haven't had any primaries in D.C. since schools closed in August).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Half the teachers in my NW DC school have refused to show up due to childcare or medical accommodation, despite day cares/babysitters being available and vaccinations fully available.

I think this is the issue that at this point generates the most ire (at least for me). I could understand prior to vaccination that teachers were TOTALLY FREAKED OUT by covid. They had the power to refuse to go in-person, and they did (and I think that is partially on the union, but certainly unionized charter teachers also refused to go in). But post-vaccination, the continuing refusal to go in is...well...it's not a good look. I get there are logistical challenges and differing things going on in every single school, but there are enough instances where it appears that teachers have taken advantage of the easy-to-get accommodations and have therefore just decided to continue working from home. That suggests they really don't care that DL is not providing adequate education for many, many kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread even a thing? Who cares if people are still blaming the union? Like it matters

That's because you have no political sense. If I were WTU, I'd be very worried. WTU right now is about as popular in DC as the Proud Boys. This pandemic has convinced a lot of parents that teachers unions are as bad as police unions. If politicians believe WTU is a toxic organization and voters will judge them based on their relationship with WTU, then WTU is fkced. There's a lot more parents than teachers.

Woah, you lie in a delusional bubble. I'm actually shocked....you're nuts. Many high SES white families are upset, some POC but majority of people may be disappointed or still want DL but they do not think of teachers are essentially a terrorist group. If that was the case I'd get a good laugh because if teachers are as bad as racists/murderers then you're ok with you're child being taught by a racist and a murderer.....

"Teachers" =/= the WTU

Yes, obviously the two are linked, but I've come to think that a lot of teachers don't support the WTU (and the charter teachers largely aren't unionized).

Anyone who has been to the clusterF that is a union meeting can attest to this. To think that the WTU is some powerful lobby is some serious cognitive dissonance. The only time they accomplished anything to do with reopening was when they successfully filed their PERB complaint. If you have a problem with an organization trying to protect its members rights from being stomped on, that says more about you than the union.

Additionally, Teachers voted STRONGLY against striking, but that probably doesn’t fit your proud boys terrorists narrative.

NP. Proud boys is hyperbole but don't dismiss the frustration that you are hearing as only Karen and Becky from WOTP and a handful of their friends whining over some dry Chardonnay. I suspect there are going to be a lot more education voters next time around in all wards of this city. It also feels like there is an opening for an education-focused, endorsing organization that is a counterweight to the WTU.