Do most of you not realize how out of touch and privileged you are?

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Anonymous wrote:The level of ignorance here about the immigrant experience in America is astounding. OP you are way off base. You want to destroy the biggest wealth creator in human history, and replace it with China, where they are mass interning minorities and stealing their land and mineral wealth to fuel the CCP, or Cuba where people are in abject poverty? Europe has a nice lifestyle but is incredibly racist. I'm a minority and have been there and can attest.

Immigrants work their BUTTS off, and are super grateful to be here. That doesn't mean America doesn't have problems, but if we can come together as a country and cooperate at the local state and federal level, we will continue to make progress.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-10-06/hispanic-american-incomes-rising-faster-than-any-other-group-s?sref=sQS1Uxqt

https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-founded-fortune-500-companies-us-gdp-1450498

I don't think anyone is arguing we should be more like China. I think they're arguing we should be more like Scandinavia.

Frugal to the point of absurdity, distrusting of wealth and ambition, and racist? Those arguing we should be more like Scandinavia have bought into the utopian myth of those countries. It’s just a myth though. If you want their “equality” then you should also embrace how expensive it is to live there and stop any talk of ending racial discrimination.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much hardship (I know not all but a LOT) could be avoided if people just used birth control.... just sayin

You’re not wrong. I went to HS with a bunch of folks who stayed right in our home town after because they got pregnant. And then, to make matters worse, they ended up with 2-3 kids. On a retail salary. Now they’re all Trumpers who are saying immigrants are ruining this country. No Jessica, immigrants are not ruining this country, you’re poor because you’re dumb.

They behave as they were raise, just like you do. Clearing kindness and empathy were not your parents strong suit.

I’m doing just fine thanks. I have zero kindness towards the people I grew up with. They’re dumb racist meth addicted heehaws who will always stay dumb racist heehaws. They’re not deserving of any empathy, they choose to be awful people, just like their ancestors, who burnt crosses and made the lives of every non white person miserable. I do feel bad for the kids, but if they have any decency, they usually get the hell out of that area as soon as they get a car and their HS diploma.

Do you always dehumanize people or just when bored on the internet?

Oh bless your little heart. Someone like you wouldn’t dare step into where I grew up. “Dehumanize people”. Hahaha. When you watch your moron next door neighbor carve a swastika tattoo with a razor and ink from a broken pen into his shin after blowing his money on cigarettes and booze instead of his child who wears the same pair of shoes for a year, then you can talk about dehumanizing someone. Or watching people who couldn’t take care of a goldfish having 2-3 kids and getting busted for heroin possession. Or watching your classmates make the teachers so miserable they don’t ever want to come back because being smart is “uppity”, then you can talk. The last factory in the town where I grew up closed in the 1990s and all of those folks could’ve left to make a better life for themselves. But they didn’t, because it’s much easier to hate black people and immigrants and “demo-rats” while getting drunk and high on your rundown porch than it is to actually come to terms with the fact that they’re to blame for what they’ve become. They’re hopeless, they refuse to change. My uncle is never going to become a doctor or lawyer, he thinks books are “gay”. You keep preaching from your comfy middle class neighborhood because you’ve never lived a day in towns like this. These people aren’t worth saving, they don’t want to be saved. The ones that do, leave and never look back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear OP, don't you get it? They do not care. Not the UMC or the rich on dcum, nor the rich in the U.S. In most of the world rich and privileged don't care and don't want to care. It is in their best preservation interests to propagate a myth that they deserved it, earned it, and are worthy of having a lot of money.
And that the poor are to blame for their own poverty.
This is a story as old as the time.

If the rich took the time to learn about the abject poverty many Americans live in today, next to them, they might feel some emotional pang to help them if they know their neighbor's kids were starving and cold at night. (never on the same street though!)
Suppose they found out that they have no money to fix the heat or even their range so they can cook.
But, that would mean they would have a tiny bit less money for their own kid's pony. So, they can't, because they convinced themselves that the poor person is just lazy, want welfare, only talks about taxing the rich, when they should be working, like they, the rich people did!
Right? Their kids are just as lazy as them, look at him in school, not even trying and where is his jacket? Can't even do his homework! Nothing but excuses, that they don't believe. The kid is lazy, it is not that he has no electricity or a laptop in his house!

But, if they learned that the poor person at the corner or a mom with a kid at the bus stop works 2, 3 jobs, works way more than the rich person does, and still can't pay for electricity, well, they would have to admit that something is wrong with the system that made them rich.
If they change the system, they might lose a few bucks, and that is not acceptable.
So, they close their eyes and pretend that they earned it and that the poor didn't earn it all of their own merits or the lack of it.
This is how dehumanizing works. Just like this thread showed you that you are treated as you are not all there, don't get it, do you want Mao to show up at your door, hey, aren't you still better off than in Stalin's gulag? They treat you like they treat other poor people, like they are dumb and to blame for your own "shortcomings."
IT IS YOUR FAULT! Not theirs. They will not get it even when "these" people are at their door and coming in with pitchfork for the 21st century, machines guns, no?
They will call them greedy and ungrateful and see nothing but flowers coming out of their own arses until their last breath. This is not new, this is not unique to the U.S, it has happened time and time again around the world.

Why do you even try here? If they were decent human beings that we're able to see that sharing some of their wealth, not all, not even a tiny portion of it, is a decent thing to do, we wouldn't be in this mess.
If conglomerates invested back in their workforce and their communities, gave a smidgeon bigger salaries, and improved the buying power in their own markets, they would have 1 less Billion out of 50B?
If we had the government that did not just bail out banks and did not stipulate that they had to keep paying their workforce to receive the stimulus, well, we would be a decent society filled with decent human beings. But, the rich are not decent, not do they have empathy for anyone but themselves.
We do not live in that society. We live among the ugly Pariahs of UMC that dcum represents so much.
So, stop trying those that will not change until the pitchforks come. No society changed all that easily without some major event happening. We are not Norway. We are the brutal Wild West, where the biggest gun, not the hardest work, wins it all.

This. This And this.

Btw -- if everyone "beneath" you who didn't make those "smart choices" and "worked hard" like you supposedly did - had made the "smart choices" and "worked hard" where would you be? There is only room for so many at cushy top jobs.
And those who count marrying someone with an inheritance or a high paying job as why they're entitled to be better off than the lazy poor? Get a grip. You did nothing except be willing to sell yourself. You're not a superior individual.

Thanks for taking me down a notch. I guess thinking that makes you feel better about yourself too.

What you're describing is charity. I give lots of money to charities for the less fortunate. But income and wealth disparities? That’s part luck, part work, and part smarts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much hardship (I know not all but a LOT) could be avoided if people just used birth control.... just sayin

You’re not wrong. I went to HS with a bunch of folks who stayed right in our home town after because they got pregnant. And then, to make matters worse, they ended up with 2-3 kids. On a retail salary. Now they’re all Trumpers who are saying immigrants are ruining this country. No Jessica, immigrants are not ruining this country, you’re poor because you’re dumb.

They behave as they were raise, just like you do. Clearing kindness and empathy were not your parents strong suit.

I’m doing just fine thanks. I have zero kindness towards the people I grew up with. They’re dumb racist meth addicted heehaws who will always stay dumb racist heehaws. They’re not deserving of any empathy, they choose to be awful people, just like their ancestors, who burnt crosses and made the lives of every non white person miserable. I do feel bad for the kids, but if they have any decency, they usually get the hell out of that area as soon as they get a car and their HS diploma.

Do you always dehumanize people or just when bored on the internet?

Oh bless your little heart. Someone like you wouldn’t dare step into where I grew up. “Dehumanize people”. Hahaha. When you watch your moron next door neighbor carve a swastika tattoo with a razor and ink from a broken pen into his shin after blowing his money on cigarettes and booze instead of his child who wears the same pair of shoes for a year, then you can talk about dehumanizing someone. Or watching people who couldn’t take care of a goldfish having 2-3 kids and getting busted for heroin possession. Or watching your classmates make the teachers so miserable they don’t ever want to come back because being smart is “uppity”, then you can talk. The last factory in the town where I grew up closed in the 1990s and all of those folks could’ve left to make a better life for themselves. But they didn’t, because it’s much easier to hate black people and immigrants and “demo-rats” while getting drunk and high on your rundown porch than it is to actually come to terms with the fact that they’re to blame for what they’ve become. They’re hopeless, they refuse to change. My uncle is never going to become a doctor or lawyer, he thinks books are “gay”. You keep preaching from your comfy middle class neighborhood because you’ve never lived a day in towns like this. These people aren’t worth saving, they don’t want to be saved. The ones that do, leave and never look back.

This here is the worst racist we have on dcum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much hardship (I know not all but a LOT) could be avoided if people just used birth control.... just sayin

You’re not wrong. I went to HS with a bunch of folks who stayed right in our home town after because they got pregnant. And then, to make matters worse, they ended up with 2-3 kids. On a retail salary. Now they’re all Trumpers who are saying immigrants are ruining this country. No Jessica, immigrants are not ruining this country, you’re poor because you’re dumb.

They behave as they were raise, just like you do. Clearing kindness and empathy were not your parents strong suit.

I’m doing just fine thanks. I have zero kindness towards the people I grew up with. They’re dumb racist meth addicted heehaws who will always stay dumb racist heehaws. They’re not deserving of any empathy, they choose to be awful people, just like their ancestors, who burnt crosses and made the lives of every non white person miserable. I do feel bad for the kids, but if they have any decency, they usually get the hell out of that area as soon as they get a car and their HS diploma.

Do you always dehumanize people or just when bored on the internet?

Oh bless your little heart. Someone like you wouldn’t dare step into where I grew up. “Dehumanize people”. Hahaha. When you watch your moron next door neighbor carve a swastika tattoo with a razor and ink from a broken pen into his shin after blowing his money on cigarettes and booze instead of his child who wears the same pair of shoes for a year, then you can talk about dehumanizing someone. Or watching people who couldn’t take care of a goldfish having 2-3 kids and getting busted for heroin possession. Or watching your classmates make the teachers so miserable they don’t ever want to come back because being smart is “uppity”, then you can talk. The last factory in the town where I grew up closed in the 1990s and all of those folks could’ve left to make a better life for themselves. But they didn’t, because it’s much easier to hate black people and immigrants and “demo-rats” while getting drunk and high on your rundown porch than it is to actually come to terms with the fact that they’re to blame for what they’ve become. They’re hopeless, they refuse to change. My uncle is never going to become a doctor or lawyer, he thinks books are “gay”. You keep preaching from your comfy middle class neighborhood because you’ve never lived a day in towns like this. These people aren’t worth saving, they don’t want to be saved. The ones that do, leave and never look back.

This here is the worst racist we have on dcum.

I don’t think you know what racist is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear OP, don't you get it? They do not care. Not the UMC or the rich on dcum, nor the rich in the U.S. In most of the world rich and privileged don't care and don't want to care. It is in their best preservation interests to propagate a myth that they deserved it, earned it, and are worthy of having a lot of money.
And that the poor are to blame for their own poverty.
This is a story as old as the time.

If the rich took the time to learn about the abject poverty many Americans live in today, next to them, they might feel some emotional pang to help them if they know their neighbor's kids were starving and cold at night. (never on the same street though!)
Suppose they found out that they have no money to fix the heat or even their range so they can cook.
But, that would mean they would have a tiny bit less money for their own kid's pony. So, they can't, because they convinced themselves that the poor person is just lazy, want welfare, only talks about taxing the rich, when they should be working, like they, the rich people did!
Right? Their kids are just as lazy as them, look at him in school, not even trying and where is his jacket? Can't even do his homework! Nothing but excuses, that they don't believe. The kid is lazy, it is not that he has no electricity or a laptop in his house!

But, if they learned that the poor person at the corner or a mom with a kid at the bus stop works 2, 3 jobs, works way more than the rich person does, and still can't pay for electricity, well, they would have to admit that something is wrong with the system that made them rich.
If they change the system, they might lose a few bucks, and that is not acceptable.
So, they close their eyes and pretend that they earned it and that the poor didn't earn it all of their own merits or the lack of it.
This is how dehumanizing works. Just like this thread showed you that you are treated as you are not all there, don't get it, do you want Mao to show up at your door, hey, aren't you still better off than in Stalin's gulag? They treat you like they treat other poor people, like they are dumb and to blame for your own "shortcomings."
IT IS YOUR FAULT! Not theirs. They will not get it even when "these" people are at their door and coming in with pitchfork for the 21st century, machines guns, no?
They will call them greedy and ungrateful and see nothing but flowers coming out of their own arses until their last breath. This is not new, this is not unique to the U.S, it has happened time and time again around the world.

Why do you even try here? If they were decent human beings that we're able to see that sharing some of their wealth, not all, not even a tiny portion of it, is a decent thing to do, we wouldn't be in this mess.
If conglomerates invested back in their workforce and their communities, gave a smidgeon bigger salaries, and improved the buying power in their own markets, they would have 1 less Billion out of 50B?
If we had the government that did not just bail out banks and did not stipulate that they had to keep paying their workforce to receive the stimulus, well, we would be a decent society filled with decent human beings. But, the rich are not decent, not do they have empathy for anyone but themselves.
We do not live in that society. We live among the ugly Pariahs of UMC that dcum represents so much.
So, stop trying those that will not change until the pitchforks come. No society changed all that easily without some major event happening. We are not Norway. We are the brutal Wild West, where the biggest gun, not the hardest work, wins it all.

This. This And this.

Btw -- if everyone "beneath" you who didn't make those "smart choices" and "worked hard" like you supposedly did - had made the "smart choices" and "worked hard" where would you be? There is only room for so many at cushy top jobs.
And those who count marrying someone with an inheritance or a high paying job as why they're entitled to be better off than the lazy poor? Get a grip. You did nothing except be willing to sell yourself. You're not a superior individual.

Exactly right. The same way rich people in Victorian England took on "causes" in other countries, so do the 'puritans" here think they are deserving, and yet avert their eyes from poverty that works cleaning their loos!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear OP, don't you get it? They do not care. Not the UMC or the rich on dcum, nor the rich in the U.S. In most of the world rich and privileged don't care and don't want to care. It is in their best preservation interests to propagate a myth that they deserved it, earned it, and are worthy of having a lot of money.
And that the poor are to blame for their own poverty.
This is a story as old as the time.

If the rich took the time to learn about the abject poverty many Americans live in today, next to them, they might feel some emotional pang to help them if they know their neighbor's kids were starving and cold at night. (never on the same street though!)
Suppose they found out that they have no money to fix the heat or even their range so they can cook.
But, that would mean they would have a tiny bit less money for their own kid's pony. So, they can't, because they convinced themselves that the poor person is just lazy, want welfare, only talks about taxing the rich, when they should be working, like they, the rich people did!
Right? Their kids are just as lazy as them, look at him in school, not even trying and where is his jacket? Can't even do his homework! Nothing but excuses, that they don't believe. The kid is lazy, it is not that he has no electricity or a laptop in his house!

But, if they learned that the poor person at the corner or a mom with a kid at the bus stop works 2, 3 jobs, works way more than the rich person does, and still can't pay for electricity, well, they would have to admit that something is wrong with the system that made them rich.
If they change the system, they might lose a few bucks, and that is not acceptable.
So, they close their eyes and pretend that they earned it and that the poor didn't earn it all of their own merits or the lack of it.
This is how dehumanizing works. Just like this thread showed you that you are treated as you are not all there, don't get it, do you want Mao to show up at your door, hey, aren't you still better off than in Stalin's gulag? They treat you like they treat other poor people, like they are dumb and to blame for your own "shortcomings."
IT IS YOUR FAULT! Not theirs. They will not get it even when "these" people are at their door and coming in with pitchfork for the 21st century, machines guns, no?
They will call them greedy and ungrateful and see nothing but flowers coming out of their own arses until their last breath. This is not new, this is not unique to the U.S, it has happened time and time again around the world.

Why do you even try here? If they were decent human beings that we're able to see that sharing some of their wealth, not all, not even a tiny portion of it, is a decent thing to do, we wouldn't be in this mess.
If conglomerates invested back in their workforce and their communities, gave a smidgeon bigger salaries, and improved the buying power in their own markets, they would have 1 less Billion out of 50B?
If we had the government that did not just bail out banks and did not stipulate that they had to keep paying their workforce to receive the stimulus, well, we would be a decent society filled with decent human beings. But, the rich are not decent, not do they have empathy for anyone but themselves.
We do not live in that society. We live among the ugly Pariahs of UMC that dcum represents so much.
So, stop trying those that will not change until the pitchforks come. No society changed all that easily without some major event happening. We are not Norway. We are the brutal Wild West, where the biggest gun, not the hardest work, wins it all.

This. This And this.

Btw -- if everyone "beneath" you who didn't make those "smart choices" and "worked hard" like you supposedly did - had made the "smart choices" and "worked hard" where would you be? There is only room for so many at cushy top jobs.
And those who count marrying someone with an inheritance or a high paying job as why they're entitled to be better off than the lazy poor? Get a grip. You did nothing except be willing to sell yourself. You're not a superior individual.

Thanks for taking me down a notch. I guess thinking that makes you feel better about yourself too.

What you're describing is charity. I give lots of money to charities for the less fortunate. But income and wealth disparities? That’s part luck, part work, and part smarts.

Which you have none of. Apart from luck maybe. You are lacking in smarts so, so, so much. Nobody who is smart could even post this idiotic drivel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much hardship (I know not all but a LOT) could be avoided if people just used birth control.... just sayin

You’re not wrong. I went to HS with a bunch of folks who stayed right in our home town after because they got pregnant. And then, to make matters worse, they ended up with 2-3 kids. On a retail salary. Now they’re all Trumpers who are saying immigrants are ruining this country. No Jessica, immigrants are not ruining this country, you’re poor because you’re dumb.

They behave as they were raise, just like you do. Clearing kindness and empathy were not your parents strong suit.

I’m doing just fine thanks. I have zero kindness towards the people I grew up with. They’re dumb racist meth addicted heehaws who will always stay dumb racist heehaws. They’re not deserving of any empathy, they choose to be awful people, just like their ancestors, who burnt crosses and made the lives of every non white person miserable. I do feel bad for the kids, but if they have any decency, they usually get the hell out of that area as soon as they get a car and their HS diploma.

Do you always dehumanize people or just when bored on the internet?

Oh bless your little heart. Someone like you wouldn’t dare step into where I grew up. “Dehumanize people”. Hahaha. When you watch your moron next door neighbor carve a swastika tattoo with a razor and ink from a broken pen into his shin after blowing his money on cigarettes and booze instead of his child who wears the same pair of shoes for a year, then you can talk about dehumanizing someone. Or watching people who couldn’t take care of a goldfish having 2-3 kids and getting busted for heroin possession. Or watching your classmates make the teachers so miserable they don’t ever want to come back because being smart is “uppity”, then you can talk. The last factory in the town where I grew up closed in the 1990s and all of those folks could’ve left to make a better life for themselves. But they didn’t, because it’s much easier to hate black people and immigrants and “demo-rats” while getting drunk and high on your rundown porch than it is to actually come to terms with the fact that they’re to blame for what they’ve become. They’re hopeless, they refuse to change. My uncle is never going to become a doctor or lawyer, he thinks books are “gay”. You keep preaching from your comfy middle class neighborhood because you’ve never lived a day in towns like this. These people aren’t worth saving, they don’t want to be saved. The ones that do, leave and never look back.

This here is the worst racist we have on dcum.

I don’t think you know what racist is.

I sure know a bigot when I hear one!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This. This And this.

Btw -- if everyone "beneath" you who didn't make those "smart choices" and "worked hard" like you supposedly did - had made the "smart choices" and "worked hard" where would you be? There is only room for so many at cushy top jobs.
And those who count marrying someone with an inheritance or a high paying job as why they're entitled to be better off than the lazy poor? Get a grip. You did nothing except be willing to sell yourself. You're not a superior individual.

LOL, there isn't a fixed amount of "room" for jobs. As history has shown, which you have failed to study, the pie is not fixed and is constantly expanding under a capitalist liberal society.

And yes, someone who married or inherited wealth is *BY DEFINITION* entitled to whatever economic benefits that came with that situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So much hardship (I know not all but a LOT) could be avoided if people just used birth control.... just sayin

You’re not wrong. I went to HS with a bunch of folks who stayed right in our home town after because they got pregnant. And then, to make matters worse, they ended up with 2-3 kids. On a retail salary. Now they’re all Trumpers who are saying immigrants are ruining this country. No Jessica, immigrants are not ruining this country, you’re poor because you’re dumb.

They behave as they were raise, just like you do. Clearing kindness and empathy were not your parents strong suit.

I’m doing just fine thanks. I have zero kindness towards the people I grew up with. They’re dumb racist meth addicted heehaws who will always stay dumb racist heehaws. They’re not deserving of any empathy, they choose to be awful people, just like their ancestors, who burnt crosses and made the lives of every non white person miserable. I do feel bad for the kids, but if they have any decency, they usually get the hell out of that area as soon as they get a car and their HS diploma.

Do you always dehumanize people or just when bored on the internet?

Oh bless your little heart. Someone like you wouldn’t dare step into where I grew up. “Dehumanize people”. Hahaha. When you watch your moron next door neighbor carve a swastika tattoo with a razor and ink from a broken pen into his shin after blowing his money on cigarettes and booze instead of his child who wears the same pair of shoes for a year, then you can talk about dehumanizing someone. Or watching people who couldn’t take care of a goldfish having 2-3 kids and getting busted for heroin possession. Or watching your classmates make the teachers so miserable they don’t ever want to come back because being smart is “uppity”, then you can talk. The last factory in the town where I grew up closed in the 1990s and all of those folks could’ve left to make a better life for themselves. But they didn’t, because it’s much easier to hate black people and immigrants and “demo-rats” while getting drunk and high on your rundown porch than it is to actually come to terms with the fact that they’re to blame for what they’ve become. They’re hopeless, they refuse to change. My uncle is never going to become a doctor or lawyer, he thinks books are “gay”. You keep preaching from your comfy middle class neighborhood because you’ve never lived a day in towns like this. These people aren’t worth saving, they don’t want to be saved. The ones that do, leave and never look back.

This here is the worst racist we have on dcum.

I don’t think you know what racist is.

I sure know a bigot when I hear one!

Says the voice in your head.

[Anonymous]

Genuinely curious for the folks complaining, what is keeping you from increasing your wealth? Forget the millionaires and billionaires, what’s keeping you from keeping a roof over your head and food on the table in this country? You can easily go to community college and then transfer to a state school and major in something practical. Or you can get into the trades, a good plumber or electrician can certainly make over $50k a year. If your spouse is pulling in an equivalent income (teacher, nurse, etc), that’s $100k a year. If you work for a larger company you’ll make less than if you work for yourself but they will cover health insurance. You can live in a studio apartment or even with roommates if you can’t rely on your family and do the whole beans and rice lifestyle ala Dave Ramsey for 2-3 years while you save money on a down payment for a starter home or condo. Good side gigs to help you get the down payment faster can be driving Uber on the weekends or Target ($15/hr right now and I’m not in DC). Or heck, even dog walking. I walked dogs in college on top of working at the college for my loans and made a solid $400 a week and got my exercise in, that was back in 2005. Some of my friends did bartending on the weekends. I saved up some money for a clunker with a passenger door that didn’t open and drove it into the ground, but I didn’t have any car payments or anything. I shopped at Goodwill. I couldn’t afford to live in the city after college, even with roommates, so I lived in an apartment complex in the suburbs for a bit. Furniture was IKEA and Habitat for Humanity Restore. You really don’t need much. I live more comfortably now and can afford to splurge a little now but did get a bigger mortgage after we sold the starter house because we wanted to be in a good school district because it’s not in the budget to go private. We aren’t millionaires but certainly doing better than our parents and we will be able to pay for our kids to go to state college so they don’t have to struggle like we did. Forget about the noise of politics and the influence of social media, set goals for yourself and work those goals with baby steps.

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Anonymous wrote:So much hardship (I know not all but a LOT) could be avoided if people just used birth control.... just sayin

You’re not wrong. I went to HS with a bunch of folks who stayed right in our home town after because they got pregnant. And then, to make matters worse, they ended up with 2-3 kids. On a retail salary. Now they’re all Trumpers who are saying immigrants are ruining this country. No Jessica, immigrants are not ruining this country, you’re poor because you’re dumb.

They behave as they were raise, just like you do. Clearing kindness and empathy were not your parents strong suit.

I’m doing just fine thanks. I have zero kindness towards the people I grew up with. They’re dumb racist meth addicted heehaws who will always stay dumb racist heehaws. They’re not deserving of any empathy, they choose to be awful people, just like their ancestors, who burnt crosses and made the lives of every non white person miserable. I do feel bad for the kids, but if they have any decency, they usually get the hell out of that area as soon as they get a car and their HS diploma.

Do you always dehumanize people or just when bored on the internet?

Oh bless your little heart. Someone like you wouldn’t dare step into where I grew up. “Dehumanize people”. Hahaha. When you watch your moron next door neighbor carve a swastika tattoo with a razor and ink from a broken pen into his shin after blowing his money on cigarettes and booze instead of his child who wears the same pair of shoes for a year, then you can talk about dehumanizing someone. Or watching people who couldn’t take care of a goldfish having 2-3 kids and getting busted for heroin possession. Or watching your classmates make the teachers so miserable they don’t ever want to come back because being smart is “uppity”, then you can talk. The last factory in the town where I grew up closed in the 1990s and all of those folks could’ve left to make a better life for themselves. But they didn’t, because it’s much easier to hate black people and immigrants and “demo-rats” while getting drunk and high on your rundown porch than it is to actually come to terms with the fact that they’re to blame for what they’ve become. They’re hopeless, they refuse to change. My uncle is never going to become a doctor or lawyer, he thinks books are “gay”. You keep preaching from your comfy middle class neighborhood because you’ve never lived a day in towns like this. These people aren’t worth saving, they don’t want to be saved. The ones that do, leave and never look back.

This here is the worst racist we have on dcum.

I don’t think you know what racist is.

I sure know a bigot when I hear one!

NP, somehow I don’t think PP is describing black or brown people.

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I feel like OP won’t be happy until people are just GIVEN money. Governments don’t exists to give money. They exist to provide a framework of law, rules, and rights that oversee trade, business, education, housing and so forth. It is up to the individual to carve out their best life.

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious for the folks complaining, what is keeping you from increasing your wealth? Forget the millionaires and billionaires, what’s keeping you from keeping a roof over your head and food on the table in this country? You can easily go to community college and then transfer to a state school and major in something practical. Or you can get into the trades, a good plumber or electrician can certainly make over $50k a year. If your spouse is pulling in an equivalent income (teacher, nurse, etc), that’s $100k a year. If you work for a larger company you’ll make less than if you work for yourself but they will cover health insurance. You can live in a studio apartment or even with roommates if you can’t rely on your family and do the whole beans and rice lifestyle ala Dave Ramsey for 2-3 years while you save money on a down payment for a starter home or condo. Good side gigs to help you get the down payment faster can be driving Uber on the weekends or Target ($15/hr right now and I’m not in DC). Or heck, even dog walking. I walked dogs in college on top of working at the college for my loans and made a solid $400 a week and got my exercise in, that was back in 2005. Some of my friends did bartending on the weekends. I saved up some money for a clunker with a passenger door that didn’t open and drove it into the ground, but I didn’t have any car payments or anything. I shopped at Goodwill. I couldn’t afford to live in the city after college, even with roommates, so I lived in an apartment complex in the suburbs for a bit. Furniture was IKEA and Habitat for Humanity Restore. You really don’t need much. I live more comfortably now and can afford to splurge a little now but did get a bigger mortgage after we sold the starter house because we wanted to be in a good school district because it’s not in the budget to go private. We aren’t millionaires but certainly doing better than our parents and we will be able to pay for our kids to go to state college so they don’t have to struggle like we did. Forget about the noise of politics and the influence of social media, set goals for yourself and work those goals with baby steps.

Yet another privileged person who is has no self-awareness nor gratitude for the life she was given.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear OP, don't you get it? They do not care. Not the UMC or the rich on dcum, nor the rich in the U.S. In most of the world rich and privileged don't care and don't want to care. It is in their best preservation interests to propagate a myth that they deserved it, earned it, and are worthy of having a lot of money.
And that the poor are to blame for their own poverty.
This is a story as old as the time.

If the rich took the time to learn about the abject poverty many Americans live in today, next to them, they might feel some emotional pang to help them if they know their neighbor's kids were starving and cold at night. (never on the same street though!)
Suppose they found out that they have no money to fix the heat or even their range so they can cook.
But, that would mean they would have a tiny bit less money for their own kid's pony. So, they can't, because they convinced themselves that the poor person is just lazy, want welfare, only talks about taxing the rich, when they should be working, like they, the rich people did!
Right? Their kids are just as lazy as them, look at him in school, not even trying and where is his jacket? Can't even do his homework! Nothing but excuses, that they don't believe. The kid is lazy, it is not that he has no electricity or a laptop in his house!

But, if they learned that the poor person at the corner or a mom with a kid at the bus stop works 2, 3 jobs, works way more than the rich person does, and still can't pay for electricity, well, they would have to admit that something is wrong with the system that made them rich.
If they change the system, they might lose a few bucks, and that is not acceptable.
So, they close their eyes and pretend that they earned it and that the poor didn't earn it all of their own merits or the lack of it.
This is how dehumanizing works. Just like this thread showed you that you are treated as you are not all there, don't get it, do you want Mao to show up at your door, hey, aren't you still better off than in Stalin's gulag? They treat you like they treat other poor people, like they are dumb and to blame for your own "shortcomings."
IT IS YOUR FAULT! Not theirs. They will not get it even when "these" people are at their door and coming in with pitchfork for the 21st century, machines guns, no?
They will call them greedy and ungrateful and see nothing but flowers coming out of their own arses until their last breath. This is not new, this is not unique to the U.S, it has happened time and time again around the world.

Why do you even try here? If they were decent human beings that we're able to see that sharing some of their wealth, not all, not even a tiny portion of it, is a decent thing to do, we wouldn't be in this mess.
If conglomerates invested back in their workforce and their communities, gave a smidgeon bigger salaries, and improved the buying power in their own markets, they would have 1 less Billion out of 50B?
If we had the government that did not just bail out banks and did not stipulate that they had to keep paying their workforce to receive the stimulus, well, we would be a decent society filled with decent human beings. But, the rich are not decent, not do they have empathy for anyone but themselves.
We do not live in that society. We live among the ugly Pariahs of UMC that dcum represents so much.
So, stop trying those that will not change until the pitchforks come. No society changed all that easily without some major event happening. We are not Norway. We are the brutal Wild West, where the biggest gun, not the hardest work, wins it all.

This. This And this.

Btw -- if everyone "beneath" you who didn't make those "smart choices" and "worked hard" like you supposedly did - had made the "smart choices" and "worked hard" where would you be? There is only room for so many at cushy top jobs.
And those who count marrying someone with an inheritance or a high paying job as why they're entitled to be better off than the lazy poor? Get a grip. You did nothing except be willing to sell yourself. You're not a superior individual.

Thanks for taking me down a notch. I guess thinking that makes you feel better about yourself too.

What you're describing is charity. I give lots of money to charities for the less fortunate. But income and wealth disparities? That’s part luck, part work, and part smarts.

Which you have none of. Apart from luck maybe. You are lacking in smarts so, so, so much. Nobody who is smart could even post this idiotic drivel.

OP, you sound very angry. I’m not sure what your situation is in life but I think you’re focusing on the wrong people. Lawyers and doctors are high earning but they do work for their money. I understand your resentment of wealthy people who inherited their wealth and never worked a day for it, but somehow I doubt there are too many of them on this message board. There are always going to be people who make more than you, who look better than you, who are “luckier” than you. That’s life. Sure we can tax the Jeff Bezos and Elon Musks of the world and I sincerely think Elizabeth Warrens plan to tax those earning over $50m is great, but that’s not really going to change your life. We need healthcare reform because insurance companies have robbed us blind but the only way to change that is on a local level by supporting progressive politicians. Communism isn’t the answer, history has shown us what happens when one group overthrows another, they just step into the shoes of those they overthrew. Wealth didn’t get redistributed to the needy in Russia, farmers died by the millions instead. Stop focusing on what others make and do, and focus on yourself. How can you get ahead? What do you hood to accomplish? Is it to purchase a decent house? Is it to pay for your kids college? Is it to take a vacation once a year? Most of us will never ride on a private jet and most of us will never live in a million dollar home. But there’s nothing stopping any of us from having a roof over our heads and food on the table. Now I’m not talking about just letting the rich do their thing, like I said, we do need reform. But we also need folks to be responsible for themselves.