Do most of you not realize how out of touch and privileged you are?

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Anonymous wrote:Just dropping in here to say that this forum makes me want to vomit. Especially here.

All this talk of people in their 30s buying million + dollar homes, people who are 40 years old and already 401(k) millionaires, people who have funded their future kids' college education while talking down to those who struggle to pay back their student loans only hoping for a break someday, people here bemoaning the budget constraints of a HHI of "only" $200K, people with investment properties, people with investments, period. Do you not understand that the average American cannot withstand a $500 emergency? That there is an eviction crisis in this country? That medical debt makes people wonder if their life-saving medical treatments are even worth the "life" they get to live afterwards? How one economic downturn can render a hardworking family penniless and homeless? That the AVERAGE household income yes IN THE DC AREA is far, FAR below the individual salaries thrown about in these discussions and that yes, AVERAGE and, gasp, below average HHI families need a place to live too? Two hour commutes each way be damned, "go move somewhere you can afford!"

I completely understand why people made guillotine memes in response to the proposed $600 stimulus checks this winter. And guess what, $1400 is not enough either. I hope all of you out of touch privileged people are taxed so hard your eyes bleed. You people are the swamp everybody else loves to hate. We need to tax the rich into oblivion and collectivize their assets, I swear to god. Don't EVER try to justify your cushy job as having "Earned" your right to complain about property taxes on your second investment property when this country operates like the Third World when trying to meet other people's basic needs.

OP, if you live in the United States, do you realize privileged you are? Living in this country gives you a leg up over most places in the world. You sound out of touch, because you don't strike me as a French peasant starving in Paris in the 18th century conjuring images of guillotines for people that are in a situation that you could be in if you focused better on your goals instead of bellyaching about your life. If what is wrong in this country bothers you, why not work to solve those issues or your own issues instead of wasting time on this forum?

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Not only is this the internet, but it's also an ANONYMOUS board. I'd be very surprised if half these numbers ppl claim to make aren't inflated.

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Anonymous wrote:Not only is this the internet, but it's also an ANONYMOUS board. I'd be very surprised if half these numbers ppl claim to make aren't inflated.

Wishful thinking. Just because you don’t have that HHI or NW it’s grapes are sour situation for you. Every single family we know makes upwards of $250k. The supposedly poor ones like us make $250k.

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Anonymous wrote:America is a land of equal opportunity, not guaranteed equal outcomes.

We can and do strive to always be improving the former, but the latter is and will always remain true. There will always be those who do better. Even under that great communist peoples system in the USSR (ay comrades, ay?), some people knew how to get stuff done and the stuff they wanted and needed, and others were left staring at empty shelves.

America, where our 'poor' are the fattest people in the world. If it wasnt so sad it'd be laughable.

And it costs nothing to write whatever you want on here. Did you know I made $82 million last year? And have a golden airplane? It doesnt fly well.

Very well said.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us worked hard in school, spend years in college and graduate school and put in long hours at work. It isn't that hard of a formula.

Also, your anger is directed at people who are WORKING for money. Maybe you should redirect it to people who either aren't working and living off the system or those not working and living off trust funds.

Janitors, cleaning staff, garbage collectors, restaurant workers, laborers and the like also work hard, most probably physically harder than you could. Lots of working class people work 2 jobs to keep up and pay the rent.

1%ers don’t corner the market on “hard work.”

Seriously. All the white-collar jerkoffs who put their 12-hour days in from their climate-controlled office doing nonphysical labor beating their chest about how hard their work. And most of them got their cushy job because their parents bankrolled them through school and taught them all the unspoken rules of the white collar world and called in a favor to get them an internship or off the wait list - but absolutely refuse to acknowledge what a huge advantage that this has given them because if they admitted that there was ANY luck involved in their success it might damage their poor fragile egos. Better to put down those whose work is beneath the and cling to their beliefs that lower socioeconomic classes are all a bunch of unemployed slackers.

I’m one of those jerkoffs, except I recognize that other people work really hard, and my parents never EVER called in a damn thing for me. They were bankrupt, divorced, and addicted. Don’t assume every white collar worker had an easy path.

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Anonymous wrote:" 30s buying million + dollar homes, people who are 40 years old and already 401(k) millionaires, people who have funded their future kids' college education "

That me but I'm self-made. My parents came to the United States as immigrants with $5 in their pocket. I learned hard work from them and started working at very early age and continue to do so today at the age of 41. Nothing was handed to us, no inheritance, no nothing. A lot of folks don't understand what they have here in the United States. It truly is the land of opportunity. A lof of us were not born with a gold spoon and have actually worked really hard for where we are today!

Great. Awesome for you. None of what you said contradicts at all the reality that you are not struggling the way that millions of people in this country are struggling. The ideal that this is "the land of opportunities" is inaccurate. There are a lot of opportunities. There are also a lot of systems that trap people in poverty. I also didn't have any of the things that you didn't have when I was growing up. I worked for everything I have, starting when I was 15 years old. But I also understand that there are a lot of people who could work 20 hours a day and still not have a meaningfully different life than their parents or grandparents.

Your success does not mean that American meritocracy is real. Your success does not mean that this country does not have a moral wealth crisis.

The people who made big money in this pandemic are the billionaires: Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg.
The problem in America is billionaires: Koch, Murdoch, DeVos, Walton, Sinclair Smith, Singer, Pope, Uihlein, Wilks.

Don’t confuse the merely wealthy with the stinking rich.

Lawyers and writers and doctors make less money than they have in the past.

Billionaires have way, way, way more money than they had in the past. And they’re using it to buy our politics and destroy the country from the inside.

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Billionaires have way, way, way more money than they had in the past. And they’re using it to buy our politics and destroy the country from the inside.

AMEN.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that it is considered "privileged" by some on this broad to have grown up in an intact family where there was some modicum of expectation that you would go to school and do well.

Isn't that basic stuff? I get it that life would be challenging if you did not have an intact family and expectation for decent school performance, but that makes you "challenged." It does not make the people with those basics "privileged."

"Privileged" would be getting big bucks from parents, so that you have no school loans etc.

I agree. It's kind of ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I would love a DCUM rule where you aren't allowed to post about yout >=$400k HHI without first acknowledging your privilege.

Do you mean acknowledging your gratitude or somehow conceding the fruits of our labors are unearned?

It’s a market economy. Some of us put our skills to work in jobs that reward us financially. Others lack such skills or prefer to pursue lower-paying jobs. People like the OP are a dime a dozen and brimming with resentment that usually stems from self-loathing.

This. There is no "deserve." Who can decide who deserves what? No one.

Agree completely. I think our healthcare system needs an overhaul but ultimately if OP is barely making ends meet as an Uber driver, that’s not anyone’s fault but OP’s. This country is made up of immigrants who show us everyday what you can achieve in this country.

Do we know OP isn't an immigrant?

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Who’s not admitting their privileged? I’m always saying how lucky I am, and I’m not as rich as half of you dcum fools. 2hy deny it?

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Am totally privileged. It’s an amazing country. I started life in an orphanage and have climbed to great heights.

It’s also amazing to me that most of the folks at the top did it since I have joined the workforce. Bezos, Ellison, Zuckerberg, Brin, etc. NONE of them were anything but dreamers and workers and look where they are now. Amazing.

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Most of the wealthy didn't work hard for it, obv, they inherited it. But they're not likely to post here.

I've got no problem with all the self-congratulators on this forum. I assume they're pretty harmless in the real world.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the wealthy didn't work hard for it, obv, they inherited it. But they're not likely to post here.

I've got no problem with all the self-congratulators on this forum. I assume they're pretty harmless in the real world.

But the folks on top now all did it in the last 10-40 years and did it largely themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the wealthy didn't work hard for it, obv, they inherited it. But they're not likely to post here.

I've got no problem with all the self-congratulators on this forum. I assume they're pretty harmless in the real world.

But the folks on top now all did it in the last 10-40 years and did it largely themselves.

Those miserable psychos are your role models?

Even ignoring the various Walton and Mars and Koch heirs among the people "on top", I'm not seeing a lot of rags-to-riches tales in the top 20 list. These people started out comfortable, and some deep personality issues drove them to want to take even more.

Thank god none of you are disturbed enough to ever be billionaires.

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Anonymous wrote:I would love a DCUM rule where you aren't allowed to post about yout >=$400k HHI without first acknowledging your privilege.

Do you mean acknowledging your gratitude or somehow conceding the fruits of our labors are unearned?

It’s a market economy. Some of us put our skills to work in jobs that reward us financially. Others lack such skills or prefer to pursue lower-paying jobs. People like the OP are a dime a dozen and brimming with resentment that usually stems from self-loathing.

This. There is no "deserve." Who can decide who deserves what? No one.

Agree completely. I think our healthcare system needs an overhaul but ultimately if OP is barely making ends meet as an Uber driver, that’s not anyone’s fault but OP’s. This country is made up of immigrants who show us everyday what you can achieve in this country.

Do we know OP isn't an immigrant?

If OP were an immigrant she would be doing better. However OP grew up in America and received too many participation trophies a kid and is now whining because nobody is giving her a participation trophy for being a loser adult.

Immigrants have a good work ethic.