Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they open in January who the F is going to send their kids?

The ICUs are close to being maxed out. I picked hybrid but no way I'm sending my kids back until these numbers go back to where they were in late summer/early fall.

I know they said no switching but...

Here? No they aren't.

In any case, by middle or end of January, our numbers will be good enough for you.

I highly doubt it, given all the people traveling for Christmas. I think it may get even worse before it gets better. Maybe schools can open in March or April.

[Anonymous]

and yes it is being reported that hospitals are close to max around here

https://www.google.com/search?q=icu+capacity+washington+dc&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjxr8WG9OrtAhWirFkKHXLODZUQ_AUoAnoECAgQBA&biw=1440&bih=789

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they open in January who the F is going to send their kids?

The ICUs are close to being maxed out. I picked hybrid but no way I'm sending my kids back until these numbers go back to where they were in late summer/early fall.

I know they said no switching but...

Per the link cited just above, VHC’s ICU is at 55.6% capacity.

[Anonymous]

You're talking out of the side of your mouth PP. You are cherry picking one hospital and erroneously extrapolating to other hospitals. You are clearly wrong in doing so. Here is a working link: nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia-hospitals-running-close-to-capacity-as-infections-rise/2518183/

Here are the stats on actual ICU occupancy (you know, the opposite of availability, PP!):

GW University Hospital - 75.5%
Howard University Hospital - 81.1%
Georgetown Medstar Hospital - 85.8%
Washington Hospital Center - 85.4%
Sibley Hospital - 109.6%

Using those numbers there are only 46 ICU beds available at those top DC hospitals. No one in their right mind could possibly think that this is an adequate number given what will be coming next.

[Anonymous]

Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're talking out of the side of your mouth PP. You are cherry picking one hospital and erroneously extrapolating to other hospitals. You are clearly wrong in doing so. Here is a working link: nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia-hospitals-running-close-to-capacity-as-infections-rise/2518183/

Here are the stats on actual ICU occupancy (you know, the opposite of availability, PP!):

GW University Hospital - 75.5%
Howard University Hospital - 81.1%
Georgetown Medstar Hospital - 85.8%
Washington Hospital Center - 85.4%
Sibley Hospital - 109.6%

Using those numbers there are only 46 ICU beds available at those top DC hospitals. No one in their right mind could possibly think that this is an adequate number given what will be coming next.

You realize they optimally hospitals operate at higher capacities than this right? They do not want to be under capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

That’s nice for you that you have the luxury to keep your kids at home all the time. That means you either have a stay at home parent or a parent with an extremely flexible telework job. Lots of people don’t have that luxury and have to put their kids in various child care situations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're talking out of the side of your mouth PP. You are cherry picking one hospital and erroneously extrapolating to other hospitals. You are clearly wrong in doing so. Here is a working link: nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia-hospitals-running-close-to-capacity-as-infections-rise/2518183/

Here are the stats on actual ICU occupancy (you know, the opposite of availability, PP!):

GW University Hospital - 75.5%
Howard University Hospital - 81.1%
Georgetown Medstar Hospital - 85.8%
Washington Hospital Center - 85.4%
Sibley Hospital - 109.6%

Using those numbers there are only 46 ICU beds available at those top DC hospitals. No one in their right mind could possibly think that this is an adequate number given what will be coming next.

You realize they optimally hospitals operate at higher capacities than this right? They do not want to be under capacity.

you're not making sense, pp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

That’s nice for you that you have the luxury to keep your kids at home all the time. That means you either have a stay at home parent or a parent with an extremely flexible telework job. Lots of people don’t have that luxury and have to put their kids in various child care situations

ok so please describe your knowledge of child care situations and tell us about the ones you know about in APS that are less safe than being in school. specifics, please, PP, not just assumptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

That’s nice for you that you have the luxury to keep your kids at home all the time. That means you either have a stay at home parent or a parent with an extremely flexible telework job. Lots of people don’t have that luxury and have to put their kids in various child care situations

ok so please describe your knowledge of child care situations and tell us about the ones you know about in APS that are less safe than being in school. specifics, please, PP, not just assumptions.

Not the PP but I will admit that I've seen a lot of kids walking together, socializing at Harris Teeter shops, Starbucks, etc etc.. all without masks. I think the notion of kids being safer at school is because they will have to wear masks and social distance in school. Nine months in and expecting kids to not see friends in a social setting is practically impossible. I know several families that have "small bubbles" of kids they allow their children to hang out with, maskless. It's a risk many are willing to take at this point, but if they were in school with masks and proper safety measures, it would be safer than them socializing without.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

That’s nice for you that you have the luxury to keep your kids at home all the time. That means you either have a stay at home parent or a parent with an extremely flexible telework job. Lots of people don’t have that luxury and have to put their kids in various child care situations

ok so please describe your knowledge of child care situations and tell us about the ones you know about in APS that are less safe than being in school. specifics, please, PP, not just assumptions.

Not the PP but I will admit that I've seen a lot of kids walking together, socializing at Harris Teeter shops, Starbucks, etc etc.. all without masks. I think the notion of kids being safer at school is because they will have to wear masks and social distance in school. Nine months in and expecting kids to not see friends in a social setting is practically impossible. I know several families that have "small bubbles" of kids they allow their children to hang out with, maskless. It's a risk many are willing to take at this point, but if they were in school with masks and proper safety measures, it would be safer than them socializing without.

Fair enough, I see this too. But if we had school, this would also happen after school hours. It might even happen more often because they would already be together in school and could then more easily go hang out after school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

That’s nice for you that you have the luxury to keep your kids at home all the time. That means you either have a stay at home parent or a parent with an extremely flexible telework job. Lots of people don’t have that luxury and have to put their kids in various child care situations

ok so please describe your knowledge of child care situations and tell us about the ones you know about in APS that are less safe than being in school. specifics, please, PP, not just assumptions.

Not the PP but I will admit that I've seen a lot of kids walking together, socializing at Harris Teeter shops, Starbucks, etc etc.. all without masks. I think the notion of kids being safer at school is because they will have to wear masks and social distance in school. Nine months in and expecting kids to not see friends in a social setting is practically impossible. I know several families that have "small bubbles" of kids they allow their children to hang out with, maskless. It's a risk many are willing to take at this point, but if they were in school with masks and proper safety measures, it would be safer than them socializing without.

Please. It is not “practically impossible” to keep your tweens and teens from roaming maskless. But I do think many privileged clueless wealthy APS families think this. Which is why I’m keeping my No. Arlington kids home. It’s safer there. 😀

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are safer at schools?? What are you letting your kids do right now that makes that a true statement. Because my kids are seeing friends outdoors with masks and playing sports outdoors with masks. And staying indoors with just our immediate family. They are safer at home. Unless you are letting your kids mix with other kids without masks or letting them jump from buildings, they are safer at home. If you want to argue they are SAFE ENOUGH at school be my guess. We can disagree about that. But safer at school? No.

That’s nice for you that you have the luxury to keep your kids at home all the time. That means you either have a stay at home parent or a parent with an extremely flexible telework job. Lots of people don’t have that luxury and have to put their kids in various child care situations

ok so please describe your knowledge of child care situations and tell us about the ones you know about in APS that are less safe than being in school. specifics, please, PP, not just assumptions.

Not the PP but I will admit that I've seen a lot of kids walking together, socializing at Harris Teeter shops, Starbucks, etc etc.. all without masks. I think the notion of kids being safer at school is because they will have to wear masks and social distance in school. Nine months in and expecting kids to not see friends in a social setting is practically impossible. I know several families that have "small bubbles" of kids they allow their children to hang out with, maskless. It's a risk many are willing to take at this point, but if they were in school with masks and proper safety measures, it would be safer than them socializing without.

Please. It is not “practically impossible” to keep your tweens and teens from roaming maskless. But I do think many privileged clueless wealthy APS families think this. Which is why I’m keeping my No. Arlington kids home. It’s safer there. 😀

It has nothing to do with socio-economic status, not sure why that is even brought up here. This is happening everywhere. I actually think kids in our area are doing a much better job than many other communities.

[Anonymous]

SES status does play a role. Wealthy families have been relatively untouched by the virus. Parents are less concerned, don’t bother to protect their kids and are eager to go back to school. Lower SES families have had greater exposure, are more protective of their kids with respect to virus and are less outraged about DL because they don’t want to send their kids in to risk illness.

[Anonymous]

You guys know they picked a date, right? Official announcement will be on 1/4