APS elementary planning initiative called off

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All that said, I can see why it makes you feel like it's arbitrary to let the Jamestown/Taylor students stay while making students zoned away from ASFS move, so maybe they will make everyone leave. It just seems needlessly petty -- "If I have to leave, I want every single other student to have to leave also."

Agree - they need to blow the whole thing up for all boundaries and start from scratch without looking at a few schools here and there through one or two viewpoints. I was glad to see school board members thinking like this. The Science Focus boundary revisions could really help relieve some of the crowding we have at Glebe. Some of our planning units are closer to Science Focus than Glebe so taking a bigger picture view of the entire county will be necessary when boundaries are redrawn everywhere - and we definitely need to do this in the Fall, there is no reason to wait any longer. there are 700 new seats coming on line in the fall so boundary changes are coming.

Even if they redraw the map this fall, they can't implement most of the North Arlington changes until Reed opens. All of the schools are either over capacity or within a dozen or so students of being over capacity.

Exactly, the can't do realistically re-draw ASFS twice, so they should wait until Reed opens and just find a way to deal with the capacity bulge, which will shrink eventually).

I think people may be misunderstanding what the SB was asking for from the staff. They aren't looking for a way to totally fix ASFS or McKinley in 2019, what they were hoping is that if the staff could do the whole map this fall, they could look for planning units that could be moved before Reed opens to give at least partial relief to those schools before the full shift in those areas in 2021. For instance, if the map were to move some current ASFS/Key units to Taylor and Long Branch and those schools were projected to have some excess capacity in 2019, then they would move as many units as they could in 2019 to fill that capacity rather than waiting until 2021 for no reason. But since there's no expectation there will be large amounts of excess capacity at those schools in 2019, it wouldn't provide substantial relief in 2019, just a small reduction in capacity pressure.

[Anonymous]

I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

There already is a walkable school there - it’s just an all lottery option school. It doesn’t have to stay that way thoigh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

So you are hoping that they will revamp the boundaries to benefit your kid but are fine with them busing kids from Rosslyn to Taylor, which is actually FURTHER than your home to Ashlawn?

People fear change because they don't want to end up with a situation WORSE than you are lamenting about. Please get a clue, and maybe a map.

Further, the Bailey's upper elementary you refer as an Urban model is a MAGNET program (option school in Arlington parlance, more or less), which is exactly what Key is, but Bailey's is only grades 3-5. Maybe they could move Key into a high rise I guess, and make that a magnet program? But a high rise with a concrete playground and not a speck of grass will likely not attract many kids, and you can't do immersion only for an upper grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

So you are hoping that they will revamp the boundaries to benefit your kid but are fine with them busing kids from Rosslyn to Taylor, which is actually FURTHER than your home to Ashlawn?

People fear change because they don't want to end up with a situation WORSE than you are lamenting about. Please get a clue, and maybe a map.

Further, the Bailey's upper elementary you refer as an Urban model is a MAGNET program (option school in Arlington parlance, more or less), which is exactly what Key is, but Bailey's is only grades 3-5. Maybe they could move Key into a high rise I guess, and make that a magnet program? But a high rise with a concrete playground and not a speck of grass will likely not attract many kids, and you can't do immersion only for an upper grade.

I wouldn't give too much mind to someone who appears to have only started paying attention yesterday.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

So you are hoping that they will revamp the boundaries to benefit your kid but are fine with them busing kids from Rosslyn to Taylor, which is actually FURTHER than your home to Ashlawn?

People fear change because they don't want to end up with a situation WORSE than you are lamenting about. Please get a clue, and maybe a map.

Further, the Bailey's upper elementary you refer as an Urban model is a MAGNET program (option school in Arlington parlance, more or less), which is exactly what Key is, but Bailey's is only grades 3-5. Maybe they could move Key into a high rise I guess, and make that a magnet program? But a high rise with a concrete playground and not a speck of grass will likely not attract many kids, and you can't do immersion only for an upper grade.

I wouldn't give too much mind to someone who appears to have only started paying attention yesterday.

I do have a map, and apparently I know the boundary map better than you. My home is 0.4 miles from ASFS and 2.5 miles to Ashlawn. I regularly walk with my children to Hayes park. I'm guessing you're from Rosslyn, which isn't walkable to ASFS or even Key, as it is over 2 miles away from ASFS. You can take a bus 2.3 mile to ASFS or a bus 2.6 mile to Long Branch - not much difference. So yes, I think I should be able to go to ASFS as I can walk there. You can deride me for it, but it doesn't really matter I've got geography on my side.

I have been following this issue. I met with APS staff during the location review and spoke to the terrible Ashlawn boundary to staff and School Board members.

Easy decision to create a Rosslyn urban school. Lots of free office space down there, and I see no compelling reason not to create a K-5 school. Yes, the Bailey's example is an upper school, but I don't see how that is relevant. No reason you cannot create a entirely new school out of office space. Many urban schools have rooftop playgrounds and if you are really unhappy with that, there are 5 options schools to choose from.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

So you are hoping that they will revamp the boundaries to benefit your kid but are fine with them busing kids from Rosslyn to Taylor, which is actually FURTHER than your home to Ashlawn?

People fear change because they don't want to end up with a situation WORSE than you are lamenting about. Please get a clue, and maybe a map.

Further, the Bailey's upper elementary you refer as an Urban model is a MAGNET program (option school in Arlington parlance, more or less), which is exactly what Key is, but Bailey's is only grades 3-5. Maybe they could move Key into a high rise I guess, and make that a magnet program? But a high rise with a concrete playground and not a speck of grass will likely not attract many kids, and you can't do immersion only for an upper grade.

I wouldn't give too much mind to someone who appears to have only started paying attention yesterday.

I do have a map, and apparently I know the boundary map better than you. My home is 0.4 miles from ASFS and 2.5 miles to Ashlawn. I regularly walk with my children to Hayes park. I'm guessing you're from Rosslyn, which isn't walkable to ASFS or even Key, as it is over 2 miles away from ASFS. You can take a bus 2.3 mile to ASFS or a bus 2.6 mile to Long Branch - not much difference. So yes, I think I should be able to go to ASFS as I can walk there. You can deride me for it, but it doesn't really matter I've got geography on my side.

I have been following this issue. I met with APS staff during the location review and spoke to the terrible Ashlawn boundary to staff and School Board members.

Easy decision to create a Rosslyn urban school. Lots of free office space down there, and I see no compelling reason not to create a K-5 school. Yes, the Bailey's example is an upper school, but I don't see how that is relevant. No reason you cannot create a entirely new school out of office space. Many urban schools have rooftop playgrounds and if you are really unhappy with that, there are 5 options schools to choose from.

I’m not anywhere near ASFS so I have no dog in that race, but when you go on and on about this urban school thing, it makes it clear that you have not, in fact, been paying attention because otherwise you’d know why that’s a non-starter.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

So you are hoping that they will revamp the boundaries to benefit your kid but are fine with them busing kids from Rosslyn to Taylor, which is actually FURTHER than your home to Ashlawn?

People fear change because they don't want to end up with a situation WORSE than you are lamenting about. Please get a clue, and maybe a map.

Further, the Bailey's upper elementary you refer as an Urban model is a MAGNET program (option school in Arlington parlance, more or less), which is exactly what Key is, but Bailey's is only grades 3-5. Maybe they could move Key into a high rise I guess, and make that a magnet program? But a high rise with a concrete playground and not a speck of grass will likely not attract many kids, and you can't do immersion only for an upper grade.

I wouldn't give too much mind to someone who appears to have only started paying attention yesterday.

I do have a map, and apparently I know the boundary map better than you. My home is 0.4 miles from ASFS and 2.5 miles to Ashlawn. I regularly walk with my children to Hayes park. I'm guessing you're from Rosslyn, which isn't walkable to ASFS or even Key, as it is over 2 miles away from ASFS. You can take a bus 2.3 mile to ASFS or a bus 2.6 mile to Long Branch - not much difference. So yes, I think I should be able to go to ASFS as I can walk there. You can deride me for it, but it doesn't really matter I've got geography on my side.

I have been following this issue. I met with APS staff during the location review and spoke to the terrible Ashlawn boundary to staff and School Board members.

Easy decision to create a Rosslyn urban school. Lots of free office space down there, and I see no compelling reason not to create a K-5 school. Yes, the Bailey's example is an upper school, but I don't see how that is relevant. No reason you cannot create a entirely new school out of office space. Many urban schools have rooftop playgrounds and if you are really unhappy with that, there are 5 options schools to choose from.

I’m not anywhere near ASFS so I have no dog in that race, but when you go on and on about this urban school thing, it makes it clear that you have not, in fact, been paying attention because otherwise you’d know why that’s a non-starter.

This mom is hilarious, don't shut her down. Let's just toss a rooftop playground up on top of a high rise, easy peasy and cheap to boot! In Rosslyn no less, under the flight path!

You should run for the SB, I would love to see your ideas on a public forum.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

So you are hoping that they will revamp the boundaries to benefit your kid but are fine with them busing kids from Rosslyn to Taylor, which is actually FURTHER than your home to Ashlawn?

People fear change because they don't want to end up with a situation WORSE than you are lamenting about. Please get a clue, and maybe a map.

Further, the Bailey's upper elementary you refer as an Urban model is a MAGNET program (option school in Arlington parlance, more or less), which is exactly what Key is, but Bailey's is only grades 3-5. Maybe they could move Key into a high rise I guess, and make that a magnet program? But a high rise with a concrete playground and not a speck of grass will likely not attract many kids, and you can't do immersion only for an upper grade.

I wouldn't give too much mind to someone who appears to have only started paying attention yesterday.

I do have a map, and apparently I know the boundary map better than you. My home is 0.4 miles from ASFS and 2.5 miles to Ashlawn. I regularly walk with my children to Hayes park. I'm guessing you're from Rosslyn, which isn't walkable to ASFS or even Key, as it is over 2 miles away from ASFS. You can take a bus 2.3 mile to ASFS or a bus 2.6 mile to Long Branch - not much difference. So yes, I think I should be able to go to ASFS as I can walk there. You can deride me for it, but it doesn't really matter I've got geography on my side.

I have been following this issue. I met with APS staff during the location review and spoke to the terrible Ashlawn boundary to staff and School Board members.

Easy decision to create a Rosslyn urban school. Lots of free office space down there, and I see no compelling reason not to create a K-5 school. Yes, the Bailey's example is an upper school, but I don't see how that is relevant. No reason you cannot create a entirely new school out of office space. Many urban schools have rooftop playgrounds and if you are really unhappy with that, there are 5 options schools to choose from.

I’m not anywhere near ASFS so I have no dog in that race, but when you go on and on about this urban school thing, it makes it clear that you have not, in fact, been paying attention because otherwise you’d know why that’s a non-starter.

This mom is hilarious, don't shut her down. Let's just toss a rooftop playground up on top of a high rise, easy peasy and cheap to boot! In Rosslyn no less, under the flight path!

You should run for the SB, I would love to see your ideas on a public forum.

I would donate to both campaigns to see her run against Audrey Clement in the next school board race.

[Anonymous]

APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?

All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.

Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?

All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.

Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.

This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in less than half a mile from ASF and our family is currently zoned to Ashlawn across the county. It is a long bus ride and very inconvenient to participate in school activities. I recently spoke to one of the officers from our civic association who said when they spoke to APS staff they were saying they are likely going to do a big revamp of the boundaries. I ‘m sorry for people who fear change, but in our case I welcome it! I’ve tried to get in every year and I’m excited about finally being able to send my kids there. I think the best solution is to create an urban walkable school like Fairfax did at 7 Corners for the children who live in the Rosslyn/courthouse area.

So you are hoping that they will revamp the boundaries to benefit your kid but are fine with them busing kids from Rosslyn to Taylor, which is actually FURTHER than your home to Ashlawn?

People fear change because they don't want to end up with a situation WORSE than you are lamenting about. Please get a clue, and maybe a map.

Further, the Bailey's upper elementary you refer as an Urban model is a MAGNET program (option school in Arlington parlance, more or less), which is exactly what Key is, but Bailey's is only grades 3-5. Maybe they could move Key into a high rise I guess, and make that a magnet program? But a high rise with a concrete playground and not a speck of grass will likely not attract many kids, and you can't do immersion only for an upper grade.

I wouldn't give too much mind to someone who appears to have only started paying attention yesterday.

I do have a map, and apparently I know the boundary map better than you. My home is 0.4 miles from ASFS and 2.5 miles to Ashlawn. I regularly walk with my children to Hayes park. I'm guessing you're from Rosslyn, which isn't walkable to ASFS or even Key, as it is over 2 miles away from ASFS. You can take a bus 2.3 mile to ASFS or a bus 2.6 mile to Long Branch - not much difference. So yes, I think I should be able to go to ASFS as I can walk there. You can deride me for it, but it doesn't really matter I've got geography on my side.

I have been following this issue. I met with APS staff during the location review and spoke to the terrible Ashlawn boundary to staff and School Board members.

Easy decision to create a Rosslyn urban school. Lots of free office space down there, and I see no compelling reason not to create a K-5 school. Yes, the Bailey's example is an upper school, but I don't see how that is relevant. No reason you cannot create a entirely new school out of office space. Many urban schools have rooftop playgrounds and if you are really unhappy with that, there are 5 options schools to choose from.

Key will be your “urban” school eventually, so breathe easy and keep telling people you support diversity.

[Anonymous]

Maybe a new public elementary (funded in part by amazon) could be built in Rosslyn near the relocated Woodlawn site. And maybe it could be a county wide option school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe a new public elementary (funded in part by amazon) could be built in Rosslyn near the relocated Woodlawn site. And maybe it could be a county wide option school.

Forgot to say that it should have a science and technology focus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APS will have to fix the Key/ASF mess- have you seen the 2018-2019 boundary map? How can you have a neighborhood school attendance zone that doesn’t actually include its neighborhood school?

All they have to do is send some planning units to Longbranch (that will have some relief/space when Fleet opens) and some to Taylor. As for kids having to ride a bus 2.3 miles vs. 2.6 miles, that makes a lot more sense than busing every Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon student to ASF and then busing the almost 300 kids who live around ASF to Taylor. Why pay for all those extra buses just so Rosslyn can stay at ASF? Because Rosslyn has apartments with poor people? So does Virginia Square and Bsllston. And what is wrong with adding some diversity to Taylor, or going to Longbranch? The folks in Clarendon and Courthouse might actually prefer a shorter commute to Longbranch.

Bottom line, boundaries are going to change. ASF/Key obviously need a lot of change now that APS got rid of the team model. The sooner probably the better given that eventually they are going to have to include ASF in its attendance zone. The only reason to wait to do anything is to guarantee those who currently attend ASF get to stay a bit longer at the expense of those who live around ASF.

This is a parody post, right? It’s weak, and slightly pathetic.

You know someone has made a valid point when the immediate response is to start name-calling.