Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

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Anonymous wrote:No one has said that Wheaton is on its way. up at all. Development is NOT booming and gang activity is a real problem. Its a VERY bad sign that all the development is going into Bethesda, close in Rockville and close-in Potomac. The areas in the east are basically being abandoned.

The elevator ready townhomes being built on McComas right next to Wheaton Mall beg to differ:

https://www.opaldc.com/themanors

The townhomes near the Metro pending in days beg to differ as well:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Wheaton-Glenmont/11112-Amherst-Ave-20902/home/11202004

As do the large office buildings and concert space being built outside Wheaton Metro as we speak:
https://www.wheatonmd.org/discover/redevelopment

If you don't think development is booming you obviously haven't been around there in a couple years. Even its detractors can see the cranes in the sky and new apartment and office buildings coming up. An area with a mall, that kind of eclectic mix of ethnic restaurants and a Metro so close to each other is hard to come by in the area and is very desirable to a lot of people.

Didn't Wheaton HS just beat out all the other W's for some prestigous award?

Yep. They are 2nd in the nation for AP + PLTW achievement awards, and Wheaton's science team is representing Maryland in this weekend's National Science Bowl. Go Wheaton!

-signed proud Wheaton parent

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Anonymous wrote:No one has said that Wheaton is on its way. up at all. Development is NOT booming and gang activity is a real problem. Its a VERY bad sign that all the development is going into Bethesda, close in Rockville and close-in Potomac. The areas in the east are basically being abandoned.

The elevator ready townhomes being built on McComas right next to Wheaton Mall beg to differ:

https://www.opaldc.com/themanors

The townhomes near the Metro pending in days beg to differ as well:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Wheaton-Glenmont/11112-Amherst-Ave-20902/home/11202004

As do the large office buildings and concert space being built outside Wheaton Metro as we speak:
https://www.wheatonmd.org/discover/redevelopment

If you don't think development is booming you obviously haven't been around there in a couple years. Even its detractors can see the cranes in the sky and new apartment and office buildings coming up. An area with a mall, that kind of eclectic mix of ethnic restaurants and a Metro so close to each other is hard to come by in the area and is very desirable to a lot of people.

Didn't Wheaton HS just beat out all the other W's for some prestigous award?

The "other Ws"? Spills coffee.

Yes, it was ranked above them on some miscellaneous metric that happens to be aligned more with Wheaton's courses than the course selections at other MCPS schools. It was about as far removed from a "prestigious award" as you could get.

The metric was for AP exams for STEM courses.

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Anonymous wrote:No one has said that Wheaton is on its way. up at all. Development is NOT booming and gang activity is a real problem. Its a VERY bad sign that all the development is going into Bethesda, close in Rockville and close-in Potomac. The areas in the east are basically being abandoned.

The elevator ready townhomes being built on McComas right next to Wheaton Mall beg to differ:

https://www.opaldc.com/themanors

The townhomes near the Metro pending in days beg to differ as well:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Wheaton-Glenmont/11112-Amherst-Ave-20902/home/11202004

As do the large office buildings and concert space being built outside Wheaton Metro as we speak:
https://www.wheatonmd.org/discover/redevelopment

If you don't think development is booming you obviously haven't been around there in a couple years. Even its detractors can see the cranes in the sky and new apartment and office buildings coming up. An area with a mall, that kind of eclectic mix of ethnic restaurants and a Metro so close to each other is hard to come by in the area and is very desirable to a lot of people.

Didn't Wheaton HS just beat out all the other W's for some prestigous award?

The "other Ws"? Spills coffee.

Yes, it was ranked above them on some miscellaneous metric that happens to be aligned more with Wheaton's courses than the course selections at other MCPS schools. It was about as far removed from a "prestigious award" as you could get.

Absolutely not true, given that half of MCPS high schools offer at least one PLTW class and lots (most?) kids at these schools take PLTW classes to satisfy the Technology credit required to graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:No one has said that Wheaton is on its way. up at all. Development is NOT booming and gang activity is a real problem. Its a VERY bad sign that all the development is going into Bethesda, close in Rockville and close-in Potomac. The areas in the east are basically being abandoned.

The elevator ready townhomes being built on McComas right next to Wheaton Mall beg to differ:

https://www.opaldc.com/themanors

The townhomes near the Metro pending in days beg to differ as well:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Wheaton-Glenmont/11112-Amherst-Ave-20902/home/11202004

As do the large office buildings and concert space being built outside Wheaton Metro as we speak:
https://www.wheatonmd.org/discover/redevelopment

If you don't think development is booming you obviously haven't been around there in a couple years. Even its detractors can see the cranes in the sky and new apartment and office buildings coming up. An area with a mall, that kind of eclectic mix of ethnic restaurants and a Metro so close to each other is hard to come by in the area and is very desirable to a lot of people.

Didn't Wheaton HS just beat out all the other W's for some prestigous award?

Yep. They are 2nd in the nation for AP + PLTW achievement awards, and Wheaton's science team is representing Maryland in this weekend's National Science Bowl. Go Wheaton!

-signed proud Wheaton parent

You should be proud! Seems more than the average number of kids that met the state's minimal PARCC targets. It just goes to show that there are kids at Wheaton who are thriving.

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why would B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Hard to guess what things will look like in four or more years, but this a practical way to address the overcrowding with current and planned resources.

Except that BCC is getting an addition that will keep it at capacity for at least another decade. Someone here really wants to blow up the BCC zone, I don't know why since it's already the most diverse Bethesda HS and thanks to the addition and a new middle school, the BCC zone won't have overcrowding problems anymore. Woodward will be mainly drawn from WJ and the overcrowded DCC schools. If they want to do some boundary tinkering to shake up the rich, white Bethesda crowd, MCPS is more likely to pull an elementary out of Whitman into Woodward.

The county's projections show B-CC overcapacity even with its addition by 2022 when Woodward opens. It's also easy to shift kids around its boundary to solve overcrowding with neighboring schools given its proximity to Woodward..

I thought the same thing until I looked at the map. The area zoned for Burning Tree Elementary is right next to the area zoned for Ashburton and just as close to Woodward as all the potential BCC elementaries. This is going to be fun

I doubt they'll touch BCC. It's already an ideal example of high and middle/lower income working well in one school district. They have a real opportunity to do something similar with WJ/Woodward. Since proximity is important, I think you could see one of the Whitman outlying elementary schools (Burning Tree or Bradley Hills) get rezoned for WJ or Woodward. Westbrook honestly would make more sense to go to Whitman than BCC, so it could take the space in Whitman vacated by Burning Tree or Bradley Hills. No way North Chevy Chase gets redistricted in full - it's within a mile of BCC and it brings most of BCC's economic diversity. Maybe the outside-the-beltway portions of North Chevy Chase go to Walter Johnson or Woodward.

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why would B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Hard to guess what things will look like in four or more years, but this a practical way to address the overcrowding with current and planned resources.

Except that BCC is getting an addition that will keep it at capacity for at least another decade. Someone here really wants to blow up the BCC zone, I don't know why since it's already the most diverse Bethesda HS and thanks to the addition and a new middle school, the BCC zone won't have overcrowding problems anymore. Woodward will be mainly drawn from WJ and the overcrowded DCC schools. If they want to do some boundary tinkering to shake up the rich, white Bethesda crowd, MCPS is more likely to pull an elementary out of Whitman into Woodward.

The county's projections show B-CC overcapacity even with its addition by 2022 when Woodward opens. It's also easy to shift kids around its boundary to solve overcrowding with neighboring schools given its proximity to Woodward..

I thought the same thing until I looked at the map. The area zoned for Burning Tree Elementary is right next to the area zoned for Ashburton and just as close to Woodward as all the potential BCC elementaries. This is going to be fun

I doubt they'll touch BCC. It's already an ideal example of high and middle/lower income working well in one school district. They have a real opportunity to do something similar with WJ/Woodward. Since proximity is important, I think you could see one of the Whitman outlying elementary schools (Burning Tree or Bradley Hills) get rezoned for WJ or Woodward. Westbrook honestly would make more sense to go to Whitman than BCC, so it could take the space in Whitman vacated by Burning Tree or Bradley Hills. No way North Chevy Chase gets redistricted in full - it's within a mile of BCC and it brings most of BCC's economic diversity. Maybe the outside-the-beltway portions of North Chevy Chase go to Walter Johnson or Woodward.

Have to disagree for two reasons:
1) The county's optimistic projections show B-CC will be over capacity by 2022 even with the addition
2) B-CC is adjacent to Woodward which wil have capacity roughly another 500 seats and its boundary is adjacent to other overcrowded schools

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why would B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Hard to guess what things will look like in four or more years, but this a practical way to address the overcrowding with current and planned resources.

Except that BCC is getting an addition that will keep it at capacity for at least another decade. Someone here really wants to blow up the BCC zone, I don't know why since it's already the most diverse Bethesda HS and thanks to the addition and a new middle school, the BCC zone won't have overcrowding problems anymore. Woodward will be mainly drawn from WJ and the overcrowded DCC schools. If they want to do some boundary tinkering to shake up the rich, white Bethesda crowd, MCPS is more likely to pull an elementary out of Whitman into Woodward.

The county's projections show B-CC overcapacity even with its addition by 2022 when Woodward opens. It's also easy to shift kids around its boundary to solve overcrowding with neighboring schools given its proximity to Woodward..

I thought the same thing until I looked at the map. The area zoned for Burning Tree Elementary is right next to the area zoned for Ashburton and just as close to Woodward as all the potential BCC elementaries. This is going to be fun

I doubt they'll touch BCC. It's already an ideal example of high and middle/lower income working well in one school district. They have a real opportunity to do something similar with WJ/Woodward. Since proximity is important, I think you could see one of the Whitman outlying elementary schools (Burning Tree or Bradley Hills) get rezoned for WJ or Woodward. Westbrook honestly would make more sense to go to Whitman than BCC, so it could take the space in Whitman vacated by Burning Tree or Bradley Hills. No way North Chevy Chase gets redistricted in full - it's within a mile of BCC and it brings most of BCC's economic diversity. Maybe the outside-the-beltway portions of North Chevy Chase go to Walter Johnson or Woodward.

Have to disagree for two reasons:
1) The county's optimistic projections show B-CC will be over capacity by 2022 even with the addition
2) B-CC is adjacent to Woodward which wil have capacity roughly another 500 seats and its boundary is adjacent to other overcrowded schools

I also disagree but it's mainly because so many B-CC parents go ape$hit when you suggest their boundary could change.

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why would B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Hard to guess what things will look like in four or more years, but this a practical way to address the overcrowding with current and planned resources.

Except that BCC is getting an addition that will keep it at capacity for at least another decade. Someone here really wants to blow up the BCC zone, I don't know why since it's already the most diverse Bethesda HS and thanks to the addition and a new middle school, the BCC zone won't have overcrowding problems anymore. Woodward will be mainly drawn from WJ and the overcrowded DCC schools. If they want to do some boundary tinkering to shake up the rich, white Bethesda crowd, MCPS is more likely to pull an elementary out of Whitman into Woodward.

The county's projections show B-CC overcapacity even with its addition by 2022 when Woodward opens. It's also easy to shift kids around its boundary to solve overcrowding with neighboring schools given its proximity to Woodward..

I thought the same thing until I looked at the map. The area zoned for Burning Tree Elementary is right next to the area zoned for Ashburton and just as close to Woodward as all the potential BCC elementaries. This is going to be fun

I doubt they'll touch BCC. It's already an ideal example of high and middle/lower income working well in one school district. They have a real opportunity to do something similar with WJ/Woodward. Since proximity is important, I think you could see one of the Whitman outlying elementary schools (Burning Tree or Bradley Hills) get rezoned for WJ or Woodward. Westbrook honestly would make more sense to go to Whitman than BCC, so it could take the space in Whitman vacated by Burning Tree or Bradley Hills. No way North Chevy Chase gets redistricted in full - it's within a mile of BCC and it brings most of BCC's economic diversity. Maybe the outside-the-beltway portions of North Chevy Chase go to Walter Johnson or Woodward.

Have to disagree for two reasons:
1) The county's optimistic projections show B-CC will be over capacity by 2022 even with the addition
2) B-CC is adjacent to Woodward which wil have capacity roughly another 500 seats and its boundary is adjacent to other overcrowded schools

I also disagree but it's mainly because so many B-CC parents go ape$hit when you suggest their boundary could change.

Didn’t the Board’s notice of Woodward’s reopening mention Whitman overcrowding as well? None of the BCC elementary schools are as close to Woodward as Bradley Hills is. Bethesda Elementary is the closest BCC elementary to Woodward but I doubt they’ll move this one. The simplest solution is to move Westbrook, which doesn’t belong at BCC geographically, to Whitman, and move one of the larger Whitman elementary schools to WJ/Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:No one has said that Wheaton is on its way. up at all. Development is NOT booming and gang activity is a real problem. Its a VERY bad sign that all the development is going into Bethesda, close in Rockville and close-in Potomac. The areas in the east are basically being abandoned.

The elevator ready townhomes being built on McComas right next to Wheaton Mall beg to differ:

https://www.opaldc.com/themanors

The townhomes near the Metro pending in days beg to differ as well:

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Wheaton-Glenmont/11112-Amherst-Ave-20902/home/11202004

As do the large office buildings and concert space being built outside Wheaton Metro as we speak:
https://www.wheatonmd.org/discover/redevelopment

If you don't think development is booming you obviously haven't been around there in a couple years. Even its detractors can see the cranes in the sky and new apartment and office buildings coming up. An area with a mall, that kind of eclectic mix of ethnic restaurants and a Metro so close to each other is hard to come by in the area and is very desirable to a lot of people.

Didn't Wheaton HS just beat out all the other W's for some prestigous award?

Don't know, but all of these homes are zoned for Einstein. Most of the area around Wheaton Metro is, strangely enough, not zoned for Wheaton HS.

In this case that's quite sensible, since Einstein is walking distance from the Wheaton metro, while Wheaton HS is off of Randolph Road, closer to Glenmont.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the hysterics in this thread who think WJ and Woodward are going to somehow both turn into 4/10 schools and the whole real estate market in North Bethesda, Garrett Park and Kensington is going to crash: Can you please explain the logic behind MoCo and the state government purposefully tanking two public high schools in an area that they're priming as the main site in the state for Amazon's HQ2? That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Look at the map. The only elementary schools that make sense from the DCC to go to Woodward are either Rock View ES or Viers Mill ES. Combining kids from these two elementaries with kids from WJ and some kids from BCC is not going to result in test scores plummeting and the high school being a 4/10 and your property values plummeting. Langley Park is zoned for Blair and a lot of kids in Blair are excelling and home prices in Takoma Park are booming. Calm down. You're living in one of the most desirable counties in the entire country, in one of the most desirable public school districts in the area and you're close to a city that is recession proof. Your home values are going to be fine and your kids are going to be alright. Breathe.

Agree with almost all of this, except Langley Park is in PG, so not zoned for Blair.

Much of the worst parts of Langely Park are actually Takoma Park and part of MoCo. One of the reasons eastern sucks and Blair has so many issues

Those areas of Takoma Park go to TPMS, not Eastern, so do you think TPMS sucks too?

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the hysterics in this thread who think WJ and Woodward are going to somehow both turn into 4/10 schools and the whole real estate market in North Bethesda, Garrett Park and Kensington is going to crash: Can you please explain the logic behind MoCo and the state government purposefully tanking two public high schools in an area that they're priming as the main site in the state for Amazon's HQ2? That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Look at the map. The only elementary schools that make sense from the DCC to go to Woodward are either Rock View ES or Viers Mill ES. Combining kids from these two elementaries with kids from WJ and some kids from BCC is not going to result in test scores plummeting and the high school being a 4/10 and your property values plummeting. Langley Park is zoned for Blair and a lot of kids in Blair are excelling and home prices in Takoma Park are booming. Calm down. You're living in one of the most desirable counties in the entire country, in one of the most desirable public school districts in the area and you're close to a city that is recession proof. Your home values are going to be fine and your kids are going to be alright. Breathe.

Agree with almost all of this, except Langley Park is in PG, so not zoned for Blair.

Much of the worst parts of Langely Park are actually Takoma Park and part of MoCo. One of the reasons eastern sucks and Blair has so many issues

Those areas of Takoma Park go to TPMS, not Eastern, so do you think TPMS sucks too?

In spite of this TPMS is a GS 9 whereas nearby Westland is an 8

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Some of the posts in this thread are out of line, but 100K house price reduction can be hard for families stretching it to get to WJ right now. Everyone doesn't make 400K of 800K HHI cited above in this thread. 100K reduction may not matter than much if you hake 400-800K. Some perspective is needed from both sides.

You'er delusional if you think houses in the WJ area are going to decrease by $100,000. If schools were so central to housing prices homes in Takoma Park wouldn't be selling for $1M. That's because it's about location first and foremost, and traffic is going to be much worse 3-4 years from now when Woodward opens, which is going to make location even more important.

Homes in the Town of Kensington within walking distance to the shops, Safeway and MARC are still going to be expensive because of the location. Homes near Rockville Pike, Pike and Rose, the White Flint development and two Metros are still going to be expensive because of location. Even homes in Alta Vista will still be expensive because of their proximity to Bethesda and it's $2M+ homes.

Location, location, location. The only area I can see maybe taking a hit maybe is the area zoned for Farmland, which isn't close to really anything except 270.

You only need to compare home prices in Kensington to North Kensington a block or two north.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Kensington/10608-Lexington-Ct-20895/home/10962729

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Kensington/3805-Archer-Pl-20895/home/11030138

It’s amazing how as soon as you cross the border out of Kensington that prices fall. Look at Garrett Park Estates vs Viers Mill Village for another example.

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why would B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Hard to guess what things will look like in four or more years, but this a practical way to address the overcrowding with current and planned resources.

Except that BCC is getting an addition that will keep it at capacity for at least another decade. Someone here really wants to blow up the BCC zone, I don't know why since it's already the most diverse Bethesda HS and thanks to the addition and a new middle school, the BCC zone won't have overcrowding problems anymore. Woodward will be mainly drawn from WJ and the overcrowded DCC schools. If they want to do some boundary tinkering to shake up the rich, white Bethesda crowd, MCPS is more likely to pull an elementary out of Whitman into Woodward.

The county's projections show B-CC overcapacity even with its addition by 2022 when Woodward opens. It's also easy to shift kids around its boundary to solve overcrowding with neighboring schools given its proximity to Woodward..

I thought the same thing until I looked at the map. The area zoned for Burning Tree Elementary is right next to the area zoned for Ashburton and just as close to Woodward as all the potential BCC elementaries. This is going to be fun

I doubt they'll touch BCC. It's already an ideal example of high and middle/lower income working well in one school district. They have a real opportunity to do something similar with WJ/Woodward. Since proximity is important, I think you could see one of the Whitman outlying elementary schools (Burning Tree or Bradley Hills) get rezoned for WJ or Woodward. Westbrook honestly would make more sense to go to Whitman than BCC, so it could take the space in Whitman vacated by Burning Tree or Bradley Hills. No way North Chevy Chase gets redistricted in full - it's within a mile of BCC and it brings most of BCC's economic diversity. Maybe the outside-the-beltway portions of North Chevy Chase go to Walter Johnson or Woodward.

Have to disagree for two reasons:
1) The county's optimistic projections show B-CC will be over capacity by 2022 even with the addition
2) B-CC is adjacent to Woodward which wil have capacity roughly another 500 seats and its boundary is adjacent to other overcrowded schools

I also disagree but it's mainly because so many B-CC parents go ape$hit when you suggest their boundary could change.

Didn’t the Board’s notice of Woodward’s reopening mention Whitman overcrowding as well? None of the BCC elementary schools are as close to Woodward as Bradley Hills is. Bethesda Elementary is the closest BCC elementary to Woodward but I doubt they’ll move this one. The simplest solution is to move Westbrook, which doesn’t belong at BCC geographically, to Whitman, and move one of the larger Whitman elementary schools to WJ/Woodward.

Whitman will also be about 200 over capacity by 2022 according to the county's projections, and although it isn't adjacent to Woodward, I imagine it's spare capacity could be used to shfit kids around it's edges into a nearby school like WJ then shift more WJ kids into Woodward. Just saying that something like this seems likely, but who knows.

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Some of the posts in this thread are out of line, but 100K house price reduction can be hard for families stretching it to get to WJ right now. Everyone doesn't make 400K of 800K HHI cited above in this thread. 100K reduction may not matter than much if you hake 400-800K. Some perspective is needed from both sides.

You'er delusional if you think houses in the WJ area are going to decrease by $100,000. If schools were so central to housing prices homes in Takoma Park wouldn't be selling for $1M. That's because it's about location first and foremost, and traffic is going to be much worse 3-4 years from now when Woodward opens, which is going to make location even more important.

Homes in the Town of Kensington within walking distance to the shops, Safeway and MARC are still going to be expensive because of the location. Homes near Rockville Pike, Pike and Rose, the White Flint development and two Metros are still going to be expensive because of location. Even homes in Alta Vista will still be expensive because of their proximity to Bethesda and it's $2M+ homes.

Location, location, location. The only area I can see maybe taking a hit maybe is the area zoned for Farmland, which isn't close to really anything except 270.

You only need to compare home prices in Kensington to North Kensington a block or two north.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Kensington/10608-Lexington-Ct-20895/home/10962729

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Kensington/3805-Archer-Pl-20895/home/11030138

It’s amazing how as soon as you cross the border out of Kensington that prices fall. Look at Garrett Park Estates vs Viers Mill Village for another example.

It’s a discount for anything zoned to Wheaton or Einstein.

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Woodward has room for 2700 seats, but I seriously doubt they'd fill it to capacity on day 1.

I'd imagine WJ will contribute 800-1000 students to Woodward. Around 700 to address it's overcrowding directly and shift a few hundred from Whitman to WJ to address overcrowding there too.

That still leaves 1700-1900 seats to fill at Woodward. The simplest solution is to fill them from the adjacent schools.

Since Einstein is around 700 over capacity it would likely contribute the lions share. I'd wager B-CC ends up giving 400-500 too, but 200 minimum to offset future overcrowding at B-CC.

Now Northwood is right next to Blair and it's expansion creates 1200 additional seats there. Roughly 700 are needed to address Northwood's overcrowding by 2022. That means 400-500 will likely go to address Blair's overcrowding. Now Blair will need around 700 total seats so they'll a couple hundred short. Those seats will likely come from the two schools directly adjacent to its West. Those schools are also adjacent to Woodward so it's easy to make the room. Sure the County could put the burden entirely on Einstein but why would B-CC get a pass?

It's all total speculation so I wouldn't get worked up over it. Do you remember those puzzle games you played as a kid that you solve by shifting the blocks? If your goal is to optimally fill these schools, make minimal changes to the overall map without busing people across the county that's how it could play out.

Hard to guess what things will look like in four or more years, but this a practical way to address the overcrowding with current and planned resources.

Except that BCC is getting an addition that will keep it at capacity for at least another decade. Someone here really wants to blow up the BCC zone, I don't know why since it's already the most diverse Bethesda HS and thanks to the addition and a new middle school, the BCC zone won't have overcrowding problems anymore. Woodward will be mainly drawn from WJ and the overcrowded DCC schools. If they want to do some boundary tinkering to shake up the rich, white Bethesda crowd, MCPS is more likely to pull an elementary out of Whitman into Woodward.

The county's projections show B-CC overcapacity even with its addition by 2022 when Woodward opens. It's also easy to shift kids around its boundary to solve overcrowding with neighboring schools given its proximity to Woodward..

I thought the same thing until I looked at the map. The area zoned for Burning Tree Elementary is right next to the area zoned for Ashburton and just as close to Woodward as all the potential BCC elementaries. This is going to be fun

I doubt they'll touch BCC. It's already an ideal example of high and middle/lower income working well in one school district. They have a real opportunity to do something similar with WJ/Woodward. Since proximity is important, I think you could see one of the Whitman outlying elementary schools (Burning Tree or Bradley Hills) get rezoned for WJ or Woodward. Westbrook honestly would make more sense to go to Whitman than BCC, so it could take the space in Whitman vacated by Burning Tree or Bradley Hills. No way North Chevy Chase gets redistricted in full - it's within a mile of BCC and it brings most of BCC's economic diversity. Maybe the outside-the-beltway portions of North Chevy Chase go to Walter Johnson or Woodward.

Have to disagree for two reasons:
1) The county's optimistic projections show B-CC will be over capacity by 2022 even with the addition
2) B-CC is adjacent to Woodward which wil have capacity roughly another 500 seats and its boundary is adjacent to other overcrowded schools

I also disagree but it's mainly because so many B-CC parents go ape$hit when you suggest their boundary could change.

Didn’t the Board’s notice of Woodward’s reopening mention Whitman overcrowding as well? None of the BCC elementary schools are as close to Woodward as Bradley Hills is. Bethesda Elementary is the closest BCC elementary to Woodward but I doubt they’ll move this one. The simplest solution is to move Westbrook, which doesn’t belong at BCC geographically, to Whitman, and move one of the larger Whitman elementary schools to WJ/Woodward.

Whitman will also be about 200 over capacity by 2022 according to the county's projections, and although it isn't adjacent to Woodward, I imagine it's spare capacity could be used to shfit kids around it's edges into a nearby school like WJ then shift more WJ kids into Woodward. Just saying that something like this seems likely, but who knows.

The county should do something innovative in 2022 like use the newly opened purple line to better integrate schools on the eastern and western halves of the county. For example, the train from Langly Park to B-CC will be a shorter commute than a bus ride to Blair. Another would be is make all the close in schools South of Northwood part of a true DCC choice program.