N word at Whitman

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd like to know the race of the students who used the N word. And, maybe some context.

I obviously don't use the N word, but work in Gaithersburg and hear that word daily.

Also, 'sexual identity references'?? What does that mean? You can't talk about sexual identity?

Calling someone faggot, fag, gay, queer is demeaning. Even the word "Gay" can be used in a derogatory manner. I am surprised that as an adult you are so ignorant and oblivious to this, or is it part of your daily vocabulary?

[Anonymous]

Ugh, taking vulgarities out of use won’t make people more inclusive or marginal people more acceptable. Since when did distain become more of a faux pas than they loser traits that they point out? It isn’t like American’s have the monopoly on looking down on blacks, poors, Muslims, savages or queers. The Chinese are super polite and they are currently ravaging African as bad as any colonial power ever did, but as long as we don’t point out how feckless the natives are it is ok?

The “it is ok as long as we don’t talk about it” psychology gripping America is just setting up a generation of victims. The long term stability of the country has corrupted people into thinking that such things as safe spaces are righteous natural phenomenon. Chaos and hurt are the natural orders of life and everything else is the spoils of hard fought battles either past or future. Without the edge of survivorship, I fear we won’t fair as well in future battles (which there will most certainly be) and that security for the meek that they are trying to create won’t even extend to the upper class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a different perspective. I think the principal was showing that he was taking the matter seriously and that such behavior would not be tolerated. Using offensive and demeaning language like this was a problem when my kid was at Pyle last year and I thought the principal there (Nardi) handled it terribly. Kids were running around heiling Hitler and calling people dirty Jews and using the N word and the F word willy nilly and no one did anything about it. It was depressing.

This. I'd prefer proactivity to complacency.

Well is Nardi now going to be principal at Whitman?

[Anonymous]

No. He might not even last much longer at Pyle.

Go bump another old thread or get back to work.

[Anonymous]

Who says I am at work? And what makes you the keeper of the knowledge about Nardi , or the DCUM thread police? It was a sincere concern and question.
I bumped an old thread because that particular issue bothered me more than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who says I am at work? And what makes you the keeper of the knowledge about Nardi , or the DCUM thread police? It was a sincere concern and question.
I bumped an old thread because that particular issue bothered me more than others.

NP - I don't get it, you pulled an old thread you "don't like the issue for" and then ask about a MS principal?
BTW, do you even go to Pyle, if so then you'd probably know the situation already and Nardi's unpopularity. Putting a bunch of 12 yo in a overly huge middle school and failing to create a sense of community or even structure where a kid doesn't have 30+ new faces in class every hour while never doing ability tracking classes is not effective.

[Anonymous]

Was Whitman the school with the white nazi graffitti in the bathroom last year?

Perhaps, the problem is Whitman is so segregated that kids don't understand that these are hurtful to real people.

[Anonymous]

Since when has unpopularity prohibited a principal from getting promoted or moved around? Of course I know, among my circle anyway, but I’m not privy to any info about the county’s plans for him—therefore, my question.

[Anonymous]

To the pp, there’s certainly no common knowledge in my crowd about who the principal of Whitman will OR won’t be—can you share what you’re talking about? Thank you.

[Anonymous]

question was will it be MS principal, and answer is 100s of ppl do not want that and it has been documented over the years.

[Anonymous]

Thanks. They should be straight up with him then as opposed to putting him through the process. Or maybe the central people don’t care what hundreds of people have documented. Staff at Whitman have told staff at Pyle he is actively interviewing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone wants to get desensitized by the use of the N-word all you have to do is stop into the McDonalds across the street from Blair around 3pm. One can just sit in a middle table, look around and watch blacks using it, Hispanics using it, Asian's using it, and yes, whites using it. It's so ingrained in speech patterns that it replaces "umm" and "like" in their normal dialog.

I think that McDonalds speaks more about the kids at Blair than ingrained speech patterns. That McDonald’s actually is what convinced us not to move inbounds for Blair. We were considering Blair and stopped at the location by chance and were sitting in it when school let out. We decided to compromise on house size and quality and move to BCC and are completely happy with that decision.

What a perfect anecdote to describe why neighborhoods are still segregated. Once while house hunting, you ran into people who weren't like you, and you ran screaming for the whiteopia of Bethesda. Oh well, enjoy your mortgage.

As did you and many others on this board. Hypocrite.

?? I was defending Blair because it's my neighborhood. Nothing the least bit hypocritical about it.

I would think that the hypocrisy being pointed out is black people bitch at white people for wanting to live around other white people while black people notriously seek out black neighborhoods too. What really is at issue is the power dynamic at hand because black people lose leverage when they seek out white neighborhoods due to better amenities and overall being nicer causing further resource disparities. If white people flocked to the few nicer black neighborhoods the leverage would flip. Problem is that isn’t what happens, whites typically flock to poorer black neighborhoods causing displacement causing people to perpetually feel behind the 8ball.

All of that said it isn’t a white or black thing as much as a rich vs poor thing even granting that black people have been kept poor. Until the wealth gap is erased the class and achievement gap will not be erased. Basic problem being that there is simply no mechanism in democratic capitalism that will facilitate an institutional wealth transfer needed to make up the 500 year head start white people took from black, Indian and Mexican people (why it was so easy to take should be looked at as well if one would hope to avoid future exploitation). Who on the rich side who controls the power in their right mind would vote for that at scale? There will continue to be policies that prop up some at the individual level and there will always be white poor and neglected individuals who think white privilege is a myth, but nothing that will come close to affecting systemic change at a national scale . But with gerrymandering, money, Republican tax policy for generational wealth transfer and targeted policing of targeted laws the real power structures will remain for the foreseeable future and mostly minority communities will continue to be poor because most minorities are relatively poor. And poor people typically on average encounter poor results. Always have and always will

I am pretty sure Hispanics had the head start by about 150 years. First colony in the U.S. was Spanish Florida. Half the U.S. is named after the Spanish. Our American dollar bill symbol is actually taken from the Spanish royal crest.

[Anonymous]

at the end of the day, there’s just a huge leadership void at both the principal and superintendent/central level. No stability or consistency or trust. I think it’s toxic thru and thru, and that permeates everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who says I am at work? And what makes you the keeper of the knowledge about Nardi , or the DCUM thread police? It was a sincere concern and question.
I bumped an old thread because that particular issue bothered me more than others.

NP - I don't get it, you pulled an old thread you "don't like the issue for" and then ask about a MS principal?
BTW, do you even go to Pyle, if so then you'd probably know the situation already and Nardi's unpopularity. Putting a bunch of 12 yo in a overly huge middle school and failing to create a sense of community or even structure where a kid doesn't have 30+ new faces in class every hour while never doing ability tracking classes is not effective.

I am going to pull into this topic - the thread is so old I feel justified. I have kids at Pyle and would not say that Nardi is universally disliked, as is your implication. I am neutral on him, my kids like him, and most parents I know like him. The lack of ability tracking is universal to all middle schools in MoCo, and it isn’t his fault the school is so overcrowded (and the school is about to embark on an addition). Curious what you find lacking in structure? I do agree there is a lack of community cohesiveness but I chalk that up to the size of the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who says I am at work? And what makes you the keeper of the knowledge about Nardi , or the DCUM thread police? It was a sincere concern and question.
I bumped an old thread because that particular issue bothered me more than others.

NP - I don't get it, you pulled an old thread you "don't like the issue for" and then ask about a MS principal?
BTW, do you even go to Pyle, if so then you'd probably know the situation already and Nardi's unpopularity. Putting a bunch of 12 yo in a overly huge middle school and failing to create a sense of community or even structure where a kid doesn't have 30+ new faces in class every hour while never doing ability tracking classes is not effective.

I am going to pull into this topic - the thread is so old I feel justified. I have kids at Pyle and would not say that Nardi is universally disliked, as is your implication. I am neutral on him, my kids like him, and most parents I know like him. The lack of ability tracking is universal to all middle schools in MoCo, and it isn’t his fault the school is so overcrowded (and the school is about to embark on an addition). Curious what you find lacking in structure? I do agree there is a lack of community cohesiveness but I chalk that up to the size of the school.

Thanks for confirming this. It was not always this way.