Why are so many women here so angry with / resentful toward women who stay home?

[Anonymous]

So true, PP. I'm sure that MANY SAHM have lives that are not enviable in any way. They are poor, uneducated, lacking resources etc. There are also many who lead lovely, safe, safe, secure lives.

Many FT workers hate their job, feel guilt about their kids, feel dumped on by the husband, frantic and hectic. Others have the money to hire household staff and keep the house moving in a way that they love.

I don't go around telling anyone that they should "FEEL LUCKY" as I have absolutely no idea what is going on in their lives.

[Anonymous]

Thhe only SAHM I am angry at is the bored housewife who started this inane thread.

[Anonymous]

Reality is the sum total of everyone's choices.

If you truly agree that our daughters' can aspire to achieve their greatest dreams, assuming that their dreams may not include being a SAHM along the route, then you are doing a great disservice to the next generation of women by staying at home throughout their upbringing modeling the second sex.

This is beyond economics. For many of us, it's a gender fight we chose to fight because we believe the best way to advance gender equality in society is through participating in the workforce achieving our dreams.

No one would ask similar questions from men. Men are assumed to be capable fathers with careers.

Google Fortune 100 boards and talk with your daughters during Women's History Month. March. Sadly, many schools don't even teach women's history until HS.

We have a POTUS USA placemat filled with white men, and Obama. I hope my grandchildren will see a woman on that mat one day. If you don't think this unequal representation limits little girls ambition, you are illogical.

If you think a woman's place is in the home, by all means, mentor and teach your girls to be SAHMs.

[Anonymous]

I'm proud to have taught her both, by having a rewarding career before SAH.


And yes, if any of my children makes the choice to care for their own offspring I will support them 100%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So true, PP. I'm sure that MANY SAHM have lives that are not enviable in any way. They are poor, uneducated, lacking resources etc. There are also many who lead lovely, safe, safe, secure lives.

Many FT workers hate their job, feel guilt about their kids, feel dumped on by the husband, frantic and hectic. Others have the money to hire household staff and keep the house moving in a way that they love.

I don't go around telling anyone that they should "FEEL LUCKY" as I have absolutely no idea what is going on in their lives.

generally speaking though sahms are lucky. They get to be a full time mom. no six figure income is quite as rewarding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So true, PP. I'm sure that MANY SAHM have lives that are not enviable in any way. They are poor, uneducated, lacking resources etc. There are also many who lead lovely, safe, safe, secure lives.

Many FT workers hate their job, feel guilt about their kids, feel dumped on by the husband, frantic and hectic. Others have the money to hire household staff and keep the house moving in a way that they love.

I don't go around telling anyone that they should "FEEL LUCKY" as I have absolutely no idea what is going on in their lives.

Exactly.

I also think it is rather ridiculous to make a blanket statement about whether being a SAHM is harder than being a WOHM or vise versa. There are SO many variables that need to be factored in to something like that! The ages & personalities of the kids, whether or not there are any special needs/medical issues &, if so, what those are, the resources available to the moms that make either SAH or WOH easier, what type of job the WOHM has, what kind of job their spouses (assuming they both have one one) have, how hands-on their spousesare when it comes to parenting, the temperment, strengths, & weaknesses of the moms in question, etc, etc. I'm also guessing that if you compared the "average" SAHM of young kids to the the "average" WOHM of young kids to find out whose day is harder, the answer would probably vary from day to day!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So true, PP. I'm sure that MANY SAHM have lives that are not enviable in any way. They are poor, uneducated, lacking resources etc. There are also many who lead lovely, safe, safe, secure lives.

Many FT workers hate their job, feel guilt about their kids, feel dumped on by the husband, frantic and hectic. Others have the money to hire household staff and keep the house moving in a way that they love.

I don't go around telling anyone that they should "FEEL LUCKY" as I have absolutely no idea what is going on in their lives.

generally speaking though sahms are lucky. They get to be a full time mom. no six figure income is quite as rewarding.

Maybe no six figure income could be as rewarding as being at home with your kids is for you but that's not true for everyone. I'm sure there are plenty of people (some of whom earn six figutes, some of whom do not) whose jobs are at least as rewarding to them as staying home with their kids would be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm proud to have taught her both, by having a rewarding career before SAH.


And yes, if any of my children makes the choice to care for their own offspring I will support them 100%.

Parents who work don't care for their own offspring?

So stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last four pages are basically SAHMs going on and on about how justified their lifestyle is, +1'ing each other, and trying to figure out the identity of a poster who has long since moved on, most likely. Just think about that for a second.

- WOHM who doesn't give a shit what anyone does but I can't believe how poorly SAHMs make themselves out on these threads. Nothing like that happens among my real life friends - some of whom work and some of whom don't. But it's not a good look, ladies.

So you think they shouldn't respond to the OP's question? You did, why can't they?

And if you don't care what people do, why do you characterize their description of what that do as making themselves out poorly?

Keep digging..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm proud to have taught her both, by having a rewarding career before SAH.


And yes, if any of my children makes the choice to care for their own offspring I will support them 100%.

Parents who work don't care for their own offspring?

So stupid.

That's not at all what I meant. Of course they do. I simply meant if they chose to SAH, not work, have no kids etc- no, I wouldn't ever encourage that. Taking time off to parent is a completely valid and understandable option for a parent. If you don't want to do that, of course you still parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So true, PP. I'm sure that MANY SAHM have lives that are not enviable in any way. They are poor, uneducated, lacking resources etc. There are also many who lead lovely, safe, safe, secure lives.

Many FT workers hate their job, feel guilt about their kids, feel dumped on by the husband, frantic and hectic. Others have the money to hire household staff and keep the house moving in a way that they love.

I don't go around telling anyone that they should "FEEL LUCKY" as I have absolutely no idea what is going on in their lives.

generally speaking though sahms are lucky. They get to be a full time mom. no six figure income is quite as rewarding.

Most SAHMs I know (majority in my mom's generation) did not have a college degree. Am I to consider them lucky?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reality is the sum total of everyone's choices.

If you truly agree that our daughters' can aspire to achieve their greatest dreams, assuming that their dreams may not include being a SAHM along the route, then you are doing a great disservice to the next generation of women by staying at home throughout their upbringing modeling the second sex.

This is beyond economics. For many of us, it's a gender fight we chose to fight because we believe the best way to advance gender equality in society is through participating in the workforce achieving our dreams.

No one would ask similar questions from men. Men are assumed to be capable fathers with careers.

Google Fortune 100 boards and talk with your daughters during Women's History Month. March. Sadly, many schools don't even teach women's history until HS.

We have a POTUS USA placemat filled with white men, and Obama. I hope my grandchildren will see a woman on that mat one day. If you don't think this unequal representation limits little girls ambition, you are illogical.

If you think a woman's place is in the home, by all means, mentor and teach your girls to be SAHMs.

This. A 100% this!

The purpose of working whether you are male or female isn't simplt to earn a paycheck to pay bills. Since the dawn of human civilization, our culture had evolved such that the females of our species had been bound by childcare and their weaker physique to fully participate in aspects of life outside the home and family. We had no say in government, sciences, business, technology or the arts.

The only thing we were good for were child bearing and child rearing. Within the past 100 years, we finally have the opportunity to do something in addition to child bearing and child rearing. No one says raising children isn't important, it is, but so is being a fully actualized and free individual with your own thoughts, ideas and skill set. The ability to gain knowledge in fields other than home economics and to be able to apply to any job or position we want is unprecedented and a miracle considering where we've been!!

How many SAHMs in Mclean that spend their days wiping poop and getting Botox could have been the next president, or cured cancer or written the next great American novel?

This isn't about childcare, it's about blatant laziness.

It's worrisome because these SAHMs are terrible role models got little girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reality is the sum total of everyone's choices.

If you truly agree that our daughters' can aspire to achieve their greatest dreams, assuming that their dreams may not include being a SAHM along the route, then you are doing a great disservice to the next generation of women by staying at home throughout their upbringing modeling the second sex.

This is beyond economics. For many of us, it's a gender fight we chose to fight because we believe the best way to advance gender equality in society is through participating in the workforce achieving our dreams.

No one would ask similar questions from men. Men are assumed to be capable fathers with careers.

Google Fortune 100 boards and talk with your daughters during Women's History Month. March. Sadly, many schools don't even teach women's history until HS.

We have a POTUS USA placemat filled with white men, and Obama. I hope my grandchildren will see a woman on that mat one day. If you don't think this unequal representation limits little girls ambition, you are illogical.

If you think a woman's place is in the home, by all means, mentor and teach your girls to be SAHMs.

This. A 100% this!

The purpose of working whether you are male or female isn't simplt to earn a paycheck to pay bills. Since the dawn of human civilization, our culture had evolved such that the females of our species had been bound by childcare and their weaker physique to fully participate in aspects of life outside the home and family. We had no say in government, sciences, business, technology or the arts.

The only thing we were good for were child bearing and child rearing. Within the past 100 years, we finally have the opportunity to do something in addition to child bearing and child rearing. No one says raising children isn't important, it is, but so is being a fully actualized and free individual with your own thoughts, ideas and skill set. The ability to gain knowledge in fields other than home economics and to be able to apply to any job or position we want is unprecedented and a miracle considering where we've been!!

How many SAHMs in Mclean that spend their days wiping poop and getting Botox could have been the next president, or cured cancer or written the next great American novel?

This isn't about childcare, it's about blatant laziness.

It's worrisome because these SAHMs are terrible role models got little girls.

Interesting because I think these are extremely important contributions to society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reality is the sum total of everyone's choices.

If you truly agree that our daughters' can aspire to achieve their greatest dreams, assuming that their dreams may not include being a SAHM along the route, then you are doing a great disservice to the next generation of women by staying at home throughout their upbringing modeling the second sex.

This is beyond economics. For many of us, it's a gender fight we chose to fight because we believe the best way to advance gender equality in society is through participating in the workforce achieving our dreams.

No one would ask similar questions from men. Men are assumed to be capable fathers with careers.

Google Fortune 100 boards and talk with your daughters during Women's History Month. March. Sadly, many schools don't even teach women's history until HS.

We have a POTUS USA placemat filled with white men, and Obama. I hope my grandchildren will see a woman on that mat one day. If you don't think this unequal representation limits little girls ambition, you are illogical.

If you think a woman's place is in the home, by all means, mentor and teach your girls to be SAHMs.

This. A 100% this!

The purpose of working whether you are male or female isn't simplt to earn a paycheck to pay bills. Since the dawn of human civilization, our culture had evolved such that the females of our species had been bound by childcare and their weaker physique to fully participate in aspects of life outside the home and family. We had no say in government, sciences, business, technology or the arts.

The only thing we were good for were child bearing and child rearing. Within the past 100 years, we finally have the opportunity to do something in addition to child bearing and child rearing. No one says raising children isn't important, it is, but so is being a fully actualized and free individual with your own thoughts, ideas and skill set. The ability to gain knowledge in fields other than home economics and to be able to apply to any job or position we want is unprecedented and a miracle considering where we've been!!

How many SAHMs in Mclean that spend their days wiping poop and getting Botox could have been the next president, or cured cancer or written the next great American novel?

This isn't about childcare, it's about blatant laziness.

It's worrisome because these SAHMs are terrible role models got little girls.

I feel badly for your childcare providers, whom you obviously disrespect. They dedicate their lives to wiping poop, instead of trying to become president and sharing your illogical goal that men and women play identical roles in society!

My SAH mother didn't work until after all her kids were in college (after which she went back to work full time), so I never had a working mother as a role model growing up. Somehow I still set high goals for myself and became a PhD scientist. Shocking, I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reality is the sum total of everyone's choices.

If you truly agree that our daughters' can aspire to achieve their greatest dreams, assuming that their dreams may not include being a SAHM along the route, then you are doing a great disservice to the next generation of women by staying at home throughout their upbringing modeling the second sex.

This is beyond economics. For many of us, it's a gender fight we chose to fight because we believe the best way to advance gender equality in society is through participating in the workforce achieving our dreams.

No one would ask similar questions from men. Men are assumed to be capable fathers with careers.

Google Fortune 100 boards and talk with your daughters during Women's History Month. March. Sadly, many schools don't even teach women's history until HS.

We have a POTUS USA placemat filled with white men, and Obama. I hope my grandchildren will see a woman on that mat one day. If you don't think this unequal representation limits little girls ambition, you are illogical.

If you think a woman's place is in the home, by all means, mentor and teach your girls to be SAHMs.

This. A 100% this!

The purpose of working whether you are male or female isn't simplt to earn a paycheck to pay bills. Since the dawn of human civilization, our culture had evolved such that the females of our species had been bound by childcare and their weaker physique to fully participate in aspects of life outside the home and family. We had no say in government, sciences, business, technology or the arts.

The only thing we were good for were child bearing and child rearing. Within the past 100 years, we finally have the opportunity to do something in addition to child bearing and child rearing. No one says raising children isn't important, it is, but so is being a fully actualized and free individual with your own thoughts, ideas and skill set. The ability to gain knowledge in fields other than home economics and to be able to apply to any job or position we want is unprecedented and a miracle considering where we've been!!

How many SAHMs in Mclean that spend their days wiping poop and getting Botox could have been the next president, or cured cancer or written the next great American novel?

This isn't about childcare, it's about blatant laziness.

It's worrisome because these SAHMs are terrible role models got little girls.

Interesting because I think these are extremely important contributions to society.

Ok, so if your important contribution to society is birthing and raising children, why should anyone have bothered to send you to school to learn to read and write? I disagree with most of what the PP said, but you're making a ridiculous straw man argument.