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Anonymous wrote:Carson was horrible! Maybe Mrs Hughes will poison him.

Daisy! Why is she such a miserable person. Maybe Mrs Patmore will poison her.

Thomas, it's hard not to feel for him. You know he's not a bad person, he wants love and to be accepted. He's just really messed everything up with all of his sneaky and conniving behavior in the past.



I don't know. I wouldn't trust him if I lived in Downtonworld.
Anonymous
Daisy - ugh. She needs to return to nursery school, not be sitting for her exams. So immature and annoying. What does Andy even see in her?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok, switching between SB and DA, I must have missed a few things.
When/how did pp conclude that Mary knows about Marigold?
Mary said to Tom that it was stupid of Edith to saddle herself with a child; what man would want her now?




I disagree. I think Mary is suspicious but doesn't know for certain.

Edith "saddled herself" when she took Marigold in as her ward. That would be true even if she were not Edith's biological child,
Anonymous
I'm just heartbroken for Barrow. Saddest scene of the whole damned series!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Three quick comments:

1) (sorry, spacing out on names…Sybill's husband) says: "I liked (America) but (I'm back because) it was a different country."
Uh, he's from Ireland.

2) Andy and Daisy! Andy says "My (future) is in the country" and he and Daisy look at each other a beat too long!!

3)Now I don't think Lord G will die--I think he will need advanced medical technology to save him, and that will resolve the fighting over the hospital (Violet will bow down after seeing the error of her ways)

4) If Mary ever is impressed by Edith (either by discovering the secret of Marigold, or by the magazine stuff)---IMO it would be out of character for it to become a new, loving chapter for the sisters. It may happen because it's the last season, but Mary is not that type. Look at the Sybil discussion. What does Mary take away from it? The competition--it's all about Mary not being as good at one thing as Sybil (the thing being "as good hearted"). It's not, oh, lovely sweet Sybil, blah blah…it's "I haven't accomplished what Sybil has!!"

So she may be momentarily impressed by Edith's transformation and motherhood status but I just think if it were real life, there's no way out of that relational dynamic.

I read once an article about siblings, and birth order. It started with Susie and Larla talking about each other. Susie goes on about how she has to take care of Larla, her little sister, etc. Larla goes on about how bossy Susie is etc. The sisters were…ready? 103 and 101. The point was that that two years difference defined 101 years of their relationship--think of this! They were both adults for 80 years, yet that little sister was always the baby to the older sister.


Yikes, I'm wondering if that how my relationships with my sisters are if I was honest, the answer is yes. I'm the oldest.
Anonymous
I felt badly for Barrow too. But I'm another who thinks something is wrong with Carson and they are leading up to Barrow's redemption and becoming the butler
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Anonymous wrote:I felt badly for Barrow too. But I'm another who thinks something is wrong with Carson and they are leading up to Barrow's redemption and becoming the butler


Huh. I was thinking that Mosely would get a teaching job and Barrow would stay on in his position, but your idea makes more sense since Mosely's position would be a demotion for Barrow.
Anonymous
Barrow? Meh - he made his bed...

Daisy is so over the top isn't not believable and starting to get annoying.
Anonymous
Agree. Daisy rants at everyone and they let her get away with it. Since when could a kitchen maid talk to her employers or her direct supervisor like that?

Suddenly all the talk is about wonderful Barrow is with the kids. I like Barrow and the actor who plays him, so I hope things work out for him.

Carson is being really boorish with his new wife, and aside from how he diminishes her constantly with all his demands and criticism, can you imagine how horrific it must be for her to have him lying on top of her huffing and puffing like a walrus? Sweet mystery of life.

I'm hoping he'll expire in the act, and she'll squirm free, with a nice future running the B&B. And Barrow gets to step in as butler.
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Anonymous wrote:

Carson is being really boorish with his new wife, and aside from how he diminishes her constantly with all his demands and criticism, can you imagine how horrific it must be for her to have him lying on top of her huffing and puffing like a walrus? Sweet mystery of life.

I'm hoping he'll expire in the act, and she'll squirm free, with a nice future running the B&B. And Barrow gets to step in as butler.


Maybe her and Mrs Patmore can run away together.
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It's a little sad that Mrs Hughes seems to have a bit of longing for Mrs Patmore's independence, entrepreneurial spirit, and future, while Mrs Patmore seems to long s but for Mrs Hughes' married state and companionship (though not longing for Carson!).

Carson is going to get his. Mrs Hughes is going to blow her stack!
Anonymous
I was hoping that we would see a softer, likeable Carson after marriage. He was so sweet to Mrs Hughes during the engagement. I want her to blow up at him, him to show contrition and them to finish the show as a super cute older couple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Carson is being really boorish with his new wife, and aside from how he diminishes her constantly with all his demands and criticism, can you imagine how horrific it must be for her to have him lying on top of her huffing and puffing like a walrus? Sweet mystery of life.

I'm hoping he'll expire in the act, and she'll squirm free, with a nice future running the B&B. And Barrow gets to step in as butler.


Maybe her and Mrs Patmore can run away together.


I want Mrs. Patmore and the pig farmer to get together, but the two women running the B&B together would be great too.
Anonymous
Did anyone else find it weird that Cora, Edith, and Mary knew next to nothing about the house they've lived in the majority of their adult life/all of their lives? Not knowing the name of the painters, the architects, or who was in the paintings made them seem pathetic.



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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Daisy rants at everyone and they let her get away with it. Since when could a kitchen maid talk to her employers or her direct supervisor like that?

Suddenly all the talk is about wonderful Barrow is with the kids. I like Barrow and the actor who plays him, so I hope things work out for him.

Carson is being really boorish with his new wife, and aside from how he diminishes her constantly with all his demands and criticism, can you imagine how horrific it must be for her to have him lying on top of her huffing and puffing like a walrus? Sweet mystery of life.

I'm hoping he'll expire in the act, and she'll squirm free, with a nice future running the B&B. And Barrow gets to step in as butler.
wow!
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