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[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would like to stay on topic and see more responses regarding acceptance/rejects/waitlist please! [/quote]

I would like to see aggregate data from schools, I don’t find much value in individual accept/reject/waitlist info.[/quote]


DP.

FCPS makes it difficult to access that data, but will certainly emphasize making at least one “offer” to every MS.

However, here a few general trends:

- the “traditional feeder-middle school” were and still are: Longfellow, Kilmer, Carson, (and sometimes Cooper),

- these MS would send up to 80 students prior to 2021, but the shift (including the 1.5 cap), means they now send about 30 to 40 students to TJ;

- the 2021 changes included an internal admissions points-based score sheet to evaluate applicants and the score sheet reflects that if a student has any of the “experience factors” (they are listed on the admissions website), then the experience factors = 40% of the admissions points,

- for the class of 2028, there were 8 offers made to BASIS McLean students. There is traditionally at least one offer made to an applicant who was home-schooled each year.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would like to stay on topic and see more responses regarding acceptance/rejects/waitlist please! [/quote]

I would like to see aggregate data from schools, I don’t find much value in individual accept/reject/waitlist info.[/quote]


DP.

FCPS makes it difficult to access that data, but will certainly emphasize making at least one “offer” to every MS.

However, here a few general trends:

- the “traditional feeder-middle school” were and still are: Longfellow, Kilmer, Carson, (and sometimes Cooper),

- these MS would send up to 80 students prior to 2021, but the shift (including the 1.5 cap), means they now send about 30 to 40 students to TJ;

- the 2021 changes included an internal admissions points-based score sheet to evaluate applicants and the score sheet reflects that if a student has any of the “experience factors” (they are listed on the admissions website), then the experience factors = 40% of the admissions points,

- for the class of 2028, there were 8 offers made to BASIS McLean students. There is traditionally at least one offer made to an applicant who was home-schooled each year.[/quote]

meant to add to my post:

TJ is NOT and FCPS high school, although it is managed by FCPS.

TJ is a Virginia Governor’s school, which is why it is open to several school jurisdictions beyond FCPS.

While every student residing in Virginia is entitled to a free public education within their district, admission to TJ is not an entitlement; its admission is competitive, like all Virginia Governor's school programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, kids who are not in AAP but advanced in math and not in feeder schools like Franklin etc. got in. I know a few. I’m sure they are very smart but also makes me wonder the point of our kids being in AAP and going to schools like Carson, Cooper etc.

People have been posting for ages that the only thing in AAP that matters in the math. Kids in Advanced Math do just fine and can get into TJ. The rest of AAP really isn’t a big deal. My kid deferred AAP until they got to Carson, they took Advanced Math in ES, and was accepted into TJ.

Dp. Why did your child defer? Curious.

People say only math matters, but many also say how great the centers are and how much better the quality is in a center class of only AAP kids. I can see why some parents would question the latter.

[Anonymous]

God forbid a parent want to provide religious education for their child. A person that can afford private school probably pays 1K a month in rent to the government for the home they own, as a Citizen and Tax Payer, they have access to what they are paying for when it comes time for TJ. The school is meritocracy if your child wasn’t admitted that means they are not at that level, but excluding a child because the parent wants to ground them in their faith is disgusting, and maybe take a cue that grounding your child in faith and traditional education has benefits versus educating children on whatever leftist cause de jour is in FCPS at the moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God forbid a parent want to provide religious education for their child. A person that can afford private school probably pays 1K a month in rent to the government for the home they own, as a Citizen and Tax Payer, they have access to what they are paying for when it comes time for TJ. The school is meritocracy if your child wasn’t admitted that means they are not at that level, but excluding a child because the parent wants to ground them in their faith is disgusting, and maybe take a cue that grounding your child in faith and traditional education has benefits versus educating children on whatever leftist cause de jour is in FCPS at the moment.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, kids who are not in AAP but advanced in math and not in feeder schools like Franklin etc. got in. I know a few. I’m sure they are very smart but also makes me wonder the point of our kids being in AAP and going to schools like Carson, Cooper etc.

People have been posting for ages that the only thing in AAP that matters in the math. Kids in Advanced Math do just fine and can get into TJ. The rest of AAP really isn’t a big deal. My kid deferred AAP until they got to Carson, they took Advanced Math in ES, and was accepted into TJ.

Dp. Why did your child defer? Curious.

People say only math matters, but many also say how great the centers are and how much better the quality is in a center class of only AAP kids. I can see why some parents would question the latter.

DC was in a language immersion program that we loved. LI is pretty similar to AAP in that there are more involved parents that select LI for their kids. This leads to more parental involvement at school and with academics at home most of the time.

As for Centers, people have reasons for saying that their choice to send their kid to the Center was the best thing in the world for all the reasons that they list. They made a choice t move their kid from established relationships and closer to home to the Center. Not too many are going to say that was a bad choice. About half the kids at our base school that moved to the Center returned to the base school. The social situation at the Center was hard, kids had already established relationships and it is harder to get together when a parent has to drive you both ways. Most of the families that returned to our base school reported that there were no birthday invites or play date invites. They did not think that the course work was all that different then what their kids got at the base school.

Some families loved the move because their kids were more academically orientated then the kids in the non-LI class and they were struggling to fit in. The non-LI class tended to have kids whose parents didn't think their kid could handle the language and kids who dropped out of LI because it wasn't a good fit. A good number of the kids I knew who moved and loved the Center had moved to the school after first grade so they couldn't join the LI program.

The experience depends on the kid. There are smart kids who are not interested in academics. THye can keep up with AAP without an issue but they are more into sports, video games, more "typical" kid stuff and they find the more academically focused class at the Center less inviting. There are kids who are more academically focused who love the Center class because there are more kids like them in the class.

In the end, my kid joined the AAP program in MS and has had 0 issues. Straight A's in AAP classes, an A in A1H and holding an A in Geometry. THey continued with their language in MS and has held an A in that class. They were not behind the AAP kids from the Center in any of the subjects. The only area that a parent needs to really worry about is Advanced Math because it is the path to A1H in 6th or 7th grade.

The exception to the rule, in my mind, are kids at Title 1 schools. There is less of a peer group at Title 1 schools, because fewer kids have active parents at home reading to them and preparing them for school. For kids who score high on the tests and are a bit behind, LIV is a way to provide those kids a chance to be in an environment where their intelligence can be nurtured and drawn out with support from the teacher in a way that they will not thrive in a regular class room with kids who are years behind. But the MC and UMC schools have more established peer groups with more kids who are ahead to advanced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God forbid a parent want to provide religious education for their child. A person that can afford private school probably pays 1K a month in rent to the government for the home they own, as a Citizen and Tax Payer, they have access to what they are paying for when it comes time for TJ. The school is meritocracy if your child wasn’t admitted that means they are not at that level, but excluding a child because the parent wants to ground them in their faith is disgusting, and maybe take a cue that grounding your child in faith and traditional education has benefits versus educating children on whatever leftist cause de jour is in FCPS at the moment.

There are plenty of people who provide religious education at home and don't attend religious schools. You made a choice that fits your families needs and values, one of the possible outcomes is that your child is less likely to gain admittance at schools like TJ. The impression I get from the private school forum is that most of the private schools do not provide the same depth of education in math and science. The kids who end up at TJ from privates tend to be kids out of schools like Basis and Nysmith that are more focused on math and science. The religious schools are very much seen as not doing a good job with math and science.

Plenty of kids are not selected who are a good fit at TJ because there are not enough seats for all the kids who are interested. There are 4.0 GPA students who are in Algebra 2 who were not accepted at TJ. No one would say that htose kids were not at "that level." FCPS knows what math is being taught in intensive math in APS and in Loudon County and in FCPS. They know what the kids had to do to get an A in Algebra 1, the minimum requirement, and what it means to get an A in Geometry or Algebra 2. They have far less of an idea about what math looks like at your kids religious school.

[Anonymous]

Waitlisted, 4.0. Geometry Honors, correct PSE, good SPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God forbid a parent want to provide religious education for their child. A person that can afford private school probably pays 1K a month in rent to the government for the home they own, as a Citizen and Tax Payer, they have access to what they are paying for when it comes time for TJ. The school is meritocracy if your child wasn’t admitted that means they are not at that level, but excluding a child because the parent wants to ground them in their faith is disgusting, and maybe take a cue that grounding your child in faith and traditional education has benefits versus educating children on whatever leftist cause de jour is in FCPS at the moment.

Not sure about your ranting getting into political.
Every year handful students from NySmith and Basis and maybe somewhere private is accepted.
And also handful of Algebra 2, 4.0 kids form public not getting in.

So you see the point.
Just because you come from “elite” MS it doesn’t means anything special in TJ admission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At TJ, the calculus BC is very hard, this course does not have retake. many students can not finish the unit test in 60 min even if you know how to do. so it is very hard to get good score in this course. Furthermore, this course do not give you enough time to study . Last week, this course is finished , the students will continue study multiple calculus after AP test until the ending of this quarter. That is why so many smart students burn out . TJ , really is fit for those students who can self-push and really like stem.Otherwise , it is a four years ' big torture in mental and physical.

My kid said the same - know how to solved it but said there is no way he can finished it all in 60 min (but off course some kids can).

[Anonymous]

All math classes in TJ are hard, kids who are very good with math and work hard might still not get As in all the math classes (which is ok, kids have to be challenged and learn from this process).

However, if your kid is not strong in math, do NOT send them to TJ. The kid won't take advantage of TJ's extensive STEM course offering and the four years will be suffering. I agree with some of the PP that Geometry should be the minimum cutoff.

[Anonymous]

Wasn't there an FCPS link that showed class of 2026 and 2027 admits were by school year? I remember seeing something posted last year on this forum which had the breakout of admissions offered by school.

[Anonymous]

found it: https://www.fcps.edu/node/47920

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would like to stay on topic and see more responses regarding acceptance/rejects/waitlist please! [/quote]

I would like to see aggregate data from schools, I don’t find much value in individual accept/reject/waitlist info.[/quote]


DP.

[b]FCPS makes it difficult to access that data,[/b] but will certainly emphasize making at least one “offer” to every MS.

However, here a few general trends:

- the “traditional feeder-middle school” were and still are: Longfellow, Kilmer, Carson, (and sometimes Cooper),

- these MS would send up to 80 students prior to 2021, but the shift (including the 1.5 cap), means they now send about 30 to 40 students to TJ;

- the 2021 changes included an internal admissions points-based score sheet to evaluate applicants and the score sheet reflects that if a student has any of the “experience factors” (they are listed on the admissions website), then the experience factors = 40% of the admissions points,

- for the class of 2028, there were 8 offers made to BASIS McLean students. There is traditionally at least one offer made to an applicant who was home-schooled each year.[/quote]

Why is that? Why don't we have the right to know?

[Anonymous]

Out of curiosity, did any students with Algebra II get waitlisted or rejected? I’m wondering how much higher level math is a predictor of acceptance.