Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy

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Anonymous wrote:The way it’s going Brown and Dartmouth will soon lose that coveted T20 title and may well be joined soon by Columbia!

What way?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in at Cornell and a couple of non-Ivy top 25. They will decline Cornell because of the two non-Ivy being better fits. Cornell seems academically intense to them, and they want to have a bit more relaxed college environment.

My son turned down Cornell for Penn State last year and is SO happy. Graduating in three years with two degrees as well thanks to his 14 APs transferring (he had 5s on all of the tests).

Glad he is happy with his choice but just to clarify.... Cornell also accepts APs for credit and/or to skip pre reqs in many subjects. My kid graduated Cornell in a STEM major in 3 years by using APs.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in at Cornell and a couple of non-Ivy top 25. They will decline Cornell because of the two non-Ivy being better fits. Cornell seems academically intense to them, and they want to have a bit more relaxed college environment.

My son turned down Cornell for Penn State last year and is SO happy. Graduating in three years with two degrees as well thanks to his 14 APs transferring (he had 5s on all of the tests).

Glad he is happy with his choice but just to clarify.... Cornell also accepts APs for credit and/or to skip pre reqs in many subjects. My kid graduated Cornell in a STEM major in 3 years by using APs.

Engineering or A&S?

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than several Ivies - Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell. But push comes to shove, I think most students would choose the Ivy.

I understand Columbia over Northwestern but nobody is picking Cornell or Dartmouth over it - only the people desperate to say they go to “an Ivy.”

Those who prefer to be in NYC, yes to Columbia. But Northwestern is the clear choice vs. Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell.

Yes, maybe to those of you writing from your house in Loudoun County. But try to realize that there is an entire class of people out there that don't make admissions decisions based on the latest iteration of US News.

I live in Manhattan, sent both my kids to “elite” prep schools, and would pick Chicago & Northwestern over Cornell, Dartmouth, and Chicago over Brown. This isn’t because of whatever list USNWR has created, and it’s weird you assume people from the suburbs default to USNWR while people in cities think Ivies reign supreme. Many of my kids’ friends picked USNWR T10s over Ivies; the Ivy label of the so-called “lower Ivies” doesn’t hold up against those schools in a head-to-head.

This is such a stupid comment. Cornell runs circles around Chicago and NW (and other Ivies) in engineering, computer science, architecture, and other majors (not to mention the many Cornell majors that arent even available at these other schools).

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in at Cornell and a couple of non-Ivy top 25. They will decline Cornell because of the two non-Ivy being better fits. Cornell seems academically intense to them, and they want to have a bit more relaxed college environment.

My son turned down Cornell for Penn State last year and is SO happy. Graduating in three years with two degrees as well thanks to his 14 APs transferring (he had 5s on all of the tests).

Glad he is happy with his choice but just to clarify.... Cornell also accepts APs for credit and/or to skip pre reqs in many subjects. My kid graduated Cornell in a STEM major in 3 years by using APs.

Engineering or A&S?

Biological Sciences in A&S starting med school in the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than several Ivies - Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell. But push comes to shove, I think most students would choose the Ivy.

I understand Columbia over Northwestern but nobody is picking Cornell or Dartmouth over it - only the people desperate to say they go to “an Ivy.”

Those who prefer to be in NYC, yes to Columbia. But Northwestern is the clear choice vs. Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell.

Yes, maybe to those of you writing from your house in Loudoun County. But try to realize that there is an entire class of people out there that don't make admissions decisions based on the latest iteration of US News.

I live in Manhattan, sent both my kids to “elite” prep schools, and would pick Chicago & Northwestern over Cornell, Dartmouth, and Chicago over Brown. This isn’t because of whatever list USNWR has created, and it’s weird you assume people from the suburbs default to USNWR while people in cities think Ivies reign supreme. Many of my kids’ friends picked USNWR T10s over Ivies; the Ivy label of the so-called “lower Ivies” doesn’t hold up against those schools in a head-to-head.

This is such a stupid comment. Cornell runs circles around Chicago and NW (and other Ivies) in engineering, computer science, architecture, and other majors (not to mention the many Cornell majors that arent even available at these other schools).

Many posters look down on Cornell contract colleges.

CALS: Ranked #1 in the nation for agricultural sciences.
ILR: Frequently ranked as the top school for industrial and labor relations.
Human Ecology: Recognized as #1 in its field.
Hotel School: Ranked #1 in the nation.

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Congratulations!

Shut out all the noise, visit the schools, attend accepted students day, and go with the one where your child can see themselves thriving over the next four years. That's what it should come down to.

If the Ivy wins, fantastic. If not, fantastic.

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than several Ivies - Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell. But push comes to shove, I think most students would choose the Ivy.

I understand Columbia over Northwestern but nobody is picking Cornell or Dartmouth over it - only the people desperate to say they go to “an Ivy.”

Those who prefer to be in NYC, yes to Columbia. But Northwestern is the clear choice vs. Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell.

Yes, maybe to those of you writing from your house in Loudoun County. But try to realize that there is an entire class of people out there that don't make admissions decisions based on the latest iteration of US News.

I live in Manhattan, sent both my kids to “elite” prep schools, and would pick Chicago & Northwestern over Cornell, Dartmouth, and Chicago over Brown. This isn’t because of whatever list USNWR has created, and it’s weird you assume people from the suburbs default to USNWR while people in cities think Ivies reign supreme. Many of my kids’ friends picked USNWR T10s over Ivies; the Ivy label of the so-called “lower Ivies” doesn’t hold up against those schools in a head-to-head.

This is such a stupid comment. Cornell runs circles around Chicago and NW (and other Ivies) in engineering, computer science, architecture, and other majors (not to mention the many Cornell majors that arent even available at these other schools).

yes but cornell does not do as well in finance and sciences as chicago and vs NU econ or journalism

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Ivy is a sports league.

Ivy is not prestigious unless your friends are Chinese immigrants.

Ivy is pretty on walls

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than several Ivies - Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell. But push comes to shove, I think most students would choose the Ivy.

I understand Columbia over Northwestern but nobody is picking Cornell or Dartmouth over it - only the people desperate to say they go to “an Ivy.”

Those who prefer to be in NYC, yes to Columbia. But Northwestern is the clear choice vs. Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell.

Yes, maybe to those of you writing from your house in Loudoun County. But try to realize that there is an entire class of people out there that don't make admissions decisions based on the latest iteration of US News.

I live in Manhattan, sent both my kids to “elite” prep schools, and would pick Chicago & Northwestern over Cornell, Dartmouth, and Chicago over Brown. This isn’t because of whatever list USNWR has created, and it’s weird you assume people from the suburbs default to USNWR while people in cities think Ivies reign supreme. Many of my kids’ friends picked USNWR T10s over Ivies; the Ivy label of the so-called “lower Ivies” doesn’t hold up against those schools in a head-to-head.

This is such a stupid comment. Cornell runs circles around Chicago and NW (and other Ivies) in engineering, computer science, architecture, and other majors (not to mention the many Cornell majors that arent even available at these other schools).

yes but cornell does not do as well in finance and sciences as chicago and vs NU econ or journalism

Ok -- but that just confirms my point which is that folks claiming that one top 15 school is better than another without refencing an academic interest, or department or major or intended career is nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is ranked higher than several Ivies - Dartmouth, Columbia, Cornell. But push comes to shove, I think most students would choose the Ivy.

I understand Columbia over Northwestern but nobody is picking Cornell or Dartmouth over it - only the people desperate to say they go to “an Ivy.”

Those who prefer to be in NYC, yes to Columbia. But Northwestern is the clear choice vs. Brown, Dartmouth and Cornell.

Yes, maybe to those of you writing from your house in Loudoun County. But try to realize that there is an entire class of people out there that don't make admissions decisions based on the latest iteration of US News.

I live in Manhattan, sent both my kids to “elite” prep schools, and would pick Chicago & Northwestern over Cornell, Dartmouth, and Chicago over Brown. This isn’t because of whatever list USNWR has created, and it’s weird you assume people from the suburbs default to USNWR while people in cities think Ivies reign supreme. Many of my kids’ friends picked USNWR T10s over Ivies; the Ivy label of the so-called “lower Ivies” doesn’t hold up against those schools in a head-to-head.

This is such a stupid comment. Cornell runs circles around Chicago and NW (and other Ivies) in engineering, computer science, architecture, and other majors (not to mention the many Cornell majors that arent even available at these other schools).

yes but cornell does not do as well in finance and sciences as chicago and vs NU econ or journalism

WHUT? Cornell behind in sciences? You got to be kidding me.

[Anonymous]

My child is turning down an ivy. She attended the admitted students day and decided that her type of crowd was not at the ivy.

Prestige is only so important when you are miserable.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is turning down an ivy. She attended the admitted students day and decided that her type of crowd was not at the ivy.

Prestige is only so important when you are miserable.

Can you please name the Ivy? My kid is considering an Ivy but your comment doesn't say much when it may or may not apply.

[Anonymous]

The better athletes are going for the NCAA money now too. Before at least some of them would go Ivy. The Ivy league should have taken the money.

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I have one at an Ivy and one at UVA.

They chose for fit.

What a bunch of @ssholz that want to put down schools and kids.